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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 2 (2.9%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.4%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.9%)
$85K to $90K - 8 (11.6%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (17.4%)
$95K to $100K - 12 (17.4%)
>$100K - 32 (46.4%)
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July 06, 2022, 01:54:19 AM

Celsuis was able to lower their liquidation price level to under 5k

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They likely are not going to be forced to liquidate ever (as in never ever) - because the budget of El Salvador is way higher than the amount of BTC that they are accumulating on a regular basis.  They seem to be setting a pretty good role model in regards to what normie peeps should be doing too...

If you might not know Hamich124D, the essence of the matter is that if you figure out that bitcoin is a good buy, then you buy some right away, and thereafter you buy regularly and often, which is also known as dollar cost averaging, and you also can buy on dips.    I could not figure out any better way to play this whole matter than the way that El Salvador has been doing it so far.. Sure, there could be some tweaks here and there, but overall they seem to be playing this matter pretty well given the various facts as we know them.

I see from your account Hamich124D that you have only been around the forum for a few months, but hopefully you have figured out some of the bitcoin basics to at least get some buys set up or to get your systems in place so that you can buy some BTC in case it catches on.

There are already threads like this here that says, El Salvador will be the richest country in the world in 8 years?

El Salvador president started buying bitcoin when it was over 50k and now they recently bought 80 bitcoins on price of 19k. Total amount invested so far is 106 million dollars and this investment is now worth 45 million usd, a 57% loss. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-01/el-salvador-buys-more-bitcoin-despite-57-loss-and-a-debt-crisis

I am sure bitcoin has the capability to bounce back and make up for loss but it takes time. Can investments from central reserves of country wait for years before making up the loss Huh El Salvador really has to wait now since bears are taking over.
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 If only they knew what happens to African countries (and their leaders) who attempt to subvert the global-economic order and shun the petro dollar.


Sooner or later all countries have to embrace crypto revolution. Those who are embracing the future currency are facing huge pressure from centralized institute like IMF. El Salvador for instance is not getting loans from IMF due to there crypto friendly policies.

What is "crypto?"  Does it have some kind of relationship to my lil precious?

As much as I would love to see one, I think it's still way too early for a "crypto" bitcoin revolution.  We're going to have to sneak up on them instead.

Exactamente!!!!!

Let's do surprise tactics with our savior, king daddy.  "We" (more than merely royal) "love" surprise tactics too, right?...





right?






rrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhtttt?

You can bet that the DGSE, MI6, BND and CIA (to name a few) have operatives in those bitcoin-friendly countries working on regime change as I type.  If pressure from the IMF is unsuccessful, they will escalate their actions until they achieve their desired result up to and including destruction of the entire country to serve as a warning to others.  As much as I would love to see one, I think it's still way too early for a "crypto" bitcoin revolution.  We're going to have to sneak up on them instead.

Small countries cant easily quit the global financial system created by big powers you mentioned. For big powers regime change in small countries is just like eating omelette in the breakfast. I love bitcoin since its something that has challenged the centralzed financial system which only favours the rich.

Oooooohhhhh great!!!!

You do know about dee cornz.  

You even used the word in a proper sentence.. never can go wrong, also, by putting the word "love" in front of it neidur..

And old form, but rich
The tanka. Like a sonnet
And like the haiku
But with a different form
May we be near the bottom

I like big Bottoms
I cannot lie...

Both of those posts seem like prayers.


In the cooperative spirit...



Let us pray.

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GAITHERSBURG, Md. — The U.S. Department of Commerce’s National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has chosen the first group of encryption tools that are designed to withstand the assault of a future quantum computer, which could potentially crack the security used to protect privacy in the digital systems we rely on every day — such as online banking and email software. The four selected encryption algorithms will become part of NIST’s post-quantum cryptographic standard, expected to be finalized in about two years.

https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2022/07/nist-announces-first-four-quantum-resistant-cryptographic-algorithms
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If the pattern of the previous cycles is kept, the average price will gradually increase to 3x from the bottom until the end of 2024. Examples: 10K->30K, 15K->45K, 17.5->52.5K. And if there is a new ATH in 2025, it might be around only 2x from the last, i.e. 140K. This is what I think, but I might be awfully wrong in both directions, like sub 10K bottom and no new ATH in 2025, or the other extreme - a new ATH beyond 300K.
Based of the previous cycle, the increase from the bottom was 3K end of 2018 till 14K in june 2019, so almost x5 not x3.
yes, but (14/3.1)X 17.6 would be 79.5, an ATH, while in 2019 we went to roughly 70% of prior ATH.
70% of 67566 is 47.3K, a very possible number that already figured multiple times in prior discussions.

math and numbers and math and numbers and ... bleh!

all i wanna know is: are we rich there yet?

FTFY


It's the journey, not the destination.


Don't u know nuttin?




 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Sure.   Another way of saying it..


Even though I am a wee bit skeptical of your user-name, newbie.

If you have to put it in your user-name... .........



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Remember maximum people talk about same thing about the bear these days but need to remember Thought process changes as Bear Change into Bull so Good Luck until new BULL with Long Run

Yeah.. but where's the link?


Lookie lookie.. Save the RF.. stealing all my thunder.. two days prior to my response...  Cry Cry Cry

FUN FACT:  On this day 10 years ago, #Bitcoin was $15.40.

Bitcoin expansion was similar to Universe inflation: very rapid initially, much slower later.
Example: btc "was" about 0.003 when Laslo purchased 2 pizzas for 10000 btc in 2010.
From 2010 to 2012 ($15.4) was a 5133X price expansion
From 2012 to 2022 (now) was "only" a 1240X expansion in five time longer period (10 years).

projecting: ~300X price expansion in 50 years or $5.73mil by 2072. Quite doable.

See What He Thinks,


Bitcoin is Pure Great Fools Theory
Bill Gates

https://youtube.com/shorts/CPK5XPg4Na0?feature=share

Bill Gates does not seem to know what he is talking about including that he is mixing various assets together (failing/refusing  to distinguish what bitcoin is as compared with other things  - which shows his lack of specific rather than general knowledge.. unless he is being disingenuous) .. .That clip must be from 2018 or earlier since he is also talking about ICOs, no?   I would speculate that even Gates has evolved in his ways of talking about bitcoin, but he still may well do the same nonsense thing in terms of failing to specifically distinguish bitcoin.. ..
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If the pattern of the previous cycles is kept, the average price will gradually increase to 3x from the bottom until the end of 2024. Examples: 10K->30K, 15K->45K, 17.5->52.5K. And if there is a new ATH in 2025, it might be around only 2x from the last, i.e. 140K. This is what I think, but I might be awfully wrong in both directions, like sub 10K bottom and no new ATH in 2025, or the other extreme - a new ATH beyond 300K.
Based of the previous cycle, the increase from the bottom was 3K end of 2018 till 14K in june 2019, so almost x5 not x3.
yes, but (14/3.1)X 17.6 would be 79.5, an ATH, while in 2019 we went to roughly 70% of prior ATH.
70% of 67566 is 47.3K, a very possible number that already figured multiple times in prior discussions.

math and numbers and math and numbers and ... bleh!

all i wanna know is: are we rich there yet?

FTFY


It's the journey, not the destination.


Don't u know nuttin?




 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Sure.   Another way of saying it..


Even though I am a wee bit skeptical of your user-name, newbie.

If you have to put it in your user-name... .........



Source: Telegram.
Remember maximum people talk about same thing about the bear these days but need to remember Thought process changes as Bear Change into Bull so Good Luck until new BULL with Long Run

Yeah.. but where's the link?


Lookie lookie.. Save the RF.. stealing all my thunder.. two days prior to my response...  Cry Cry Cry

FUN FACT:  On this day 10 years ago, #Bitcoin was $15.40.

Bitcoin expansion was similar to Universe inflation: very rapid initially, much slower later.
Example: btc "was" about 0.003 when Laslo purchased 2 pizzas for 10000 btc in 2010.
From 2010 to 2012 ($15.4) was a 5133X price expansion
From 2012 to 2022 (now) was "only" a 1240X expansion in five time longer period (10 years).

projecting: ~300X price expansion in 50 years or $5.73mil by 2072. Quite doable.

See What He Thinks,


Bitcoin is Pure Great Fools Theory
Bill Gates

https://youtube.com/shorts/CPK5XPg4Na0?feature=share

Bill Gates does not seem to know what he is talking about including that he is mixing various assets together (failing/refusing  to distinguish what bitcoin is as compared with other things  - which shows his lack of specific rather than general knowledge.. unless he is being disingenuous) .. .That clip must be from 2018 or earlier since he is also talking about ICOs, no?   I would speculate that even Gates has evolved in his ways of talking about bitcoin, but he still may well do the same nonsense thing in terms of failing to specifically distinguish bitcoin.. ..

I believe Bill Gates said this about the NFT pictures of apes aswell, which I totally agree with...
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Well there goes another...

https://www.reuters.com/technology/crypto-lender-voyager-files-bankruptcy-2022-07-06/
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I find it amusing Cheesy
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Another amazingly accurate case of what happens when "not your keys, not your coins" is disregarded. I would not be surprised if they just tell everyone "sorry, we're bankrupt. Or maybe they will forego telling everyone how screwed they are and keep denying reality like Luna Terra. "Keep believing in us, because [insert PR slogan]. Good luck with your future endeavors and remember, its not our fault."


I mean...
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If I have to speak for all of us.  Yes "we" do.

 Tongue Tongue Tongue



Panic sell would be correctly assessed as one of the consequences of


NOT

being sane.

An 'alternative' bullish view that suggests that 69 was a "3", not a "5".
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YborCh2M-Is-Bitcoin-about-to-rally-to-110-120k/

I give this scenario a low chance (make it 20-30%), but it ALSO suggests a 47-48K point in a few mo, then 110-120K thereafter (this is a part of lengthening cycle model that suggest that the current bear is intermittent, like in the summer of 2013)

Gosh.. sounding optimistic Biodom.

Golly gee.



I find it amusing Cheesy

Quite amuzing also that you remain a nocoiner who could have been building a stash.. ie stacking sats.

You could have been a contender.   Tongue Tongue Tongue

Sucks to be uie-pooie.
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Another amazingly accurate case of what happens when "not your keys, not your coins" is disregarded. I would not be surprised if they just tell everyone "sorry, we're bankrupt. Or maybe they will forego telling everyone how screwed they are and keep denying reality like Luna Terra. "Keep believing in us, because [insert PR slogan]. Good luck with your future endeavors and remember, its not our fault."


I mean...

And last week, Sam Bankman-Fried also helped Voyager Digital with 500 million dollars....  Roll Eyes

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/22/sam-bankman-fried-rescues-crypto-lenders-blockfi-voyager.html
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