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That said, now I am a wimp for not selling at $60 or 50K? Hilarious.

Here is a bet (nonfunded): within 2-3 years anyone who sold at 50-60K would be considered a wimp, unless, of course, they sold at 60K, then bought back at 17.5-20K, but it is REALLY difficult to do if you already did something with that profit plus paid taxes on it; not impossible, but difficult. Every time I sell, I consider that bitcoin gone..but I haven't sell for a while.

hey i sold some on the latest run up in the 50ks and 60ks. and with no intention to buy back, although as it worked out i did buy some back just cuz the price was to good to pass up.

i mean those who say "HODL FOREVER!!!!!" well cool if that works for you. me, i sell on the uppidies, and sometimes buy back on the dips - depending on whats going on in meatspace at the time. but mainly i sell on the ups to get enough fiat to coast through the inevitable bear markets without worries about the price.

i do hobby mine shitcoins to trade for btc so i always have a small dca thing going on. that helps things out too.

naturally what works out decently for me may not for others blah blah etc. JJG called me a "walking moral hazard" once. take that as you may  Grin
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I would have given the award to the big booty Latina AOC.
She is dumber than a bag of rocks but she does look great in that dress.  Cool
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Telling us all Putin is a monster whilst licking a real monster's butt.
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Fuck Joe Biden and the Kamal he came riding in on.






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I still don't know why some people still don't believe in Bitcoin as an an investment.
Can we call them Bitcoin antagonists or just forget about them?
I love my Bitcoin and I would make more money from it while they keep to their ignorance 😂
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Can we call them Bitcoin antagonists or just forget about them?
I love my Bitcoin and I would make more money from it while they keep to their ignorance 😂

They attack what they Fear, if they didn't think it endangered them they would just ignore it. Wink
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I would have given the award to the big booty Latina AOC.
She is dumber than a bag of rocks but she does look great in that dress.  Cool
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 The NCAA was scraping the bottom of the barrel this year.  Witness the only other nominee who incidentally spent more than two years trying to become a woman:

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Chlorine hell in elevator in Shanghai : https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/comments/vzc8bt/chlorine_hell/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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There won't be any OPSEC issues, as we'll all be meeting in Bob's Virtual Ranch using our $10k VR gear, which will stimulate all 5 (6?) senses to the point of not being able to tell the difference from RL.

as long as the 6th VR sense doesnt involve the rusty pipe thing. think ill pass on that particular one thanks.

other than that sounds very cool.

hahahaha

I feel you vapourminer.. I feel you.. even though I don't want to feel you..

Rusty pipe is not going to feel good...

I doubt that staple food attendee Bawb would exempt me (that fuck) . (he might exempt uie-pooie, since you tend to be more likeable, just saying).... even though I am supposedly an oldie in these here parts.. cannot even grandfather out of that.. probably.. so no thanks.. for sure..

correlation from previous bear shows about 135 daily periods before positive sentiment returned

Me no likey correlation.

that puts this dips resolution near mid to end Oct

Me really no like this idear..

past perform......yada yada...rachtetah rachtetah.....

Yada yada .. ur lil selfie..

bearer of bad newses...


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carry on gents...think I am going to try and get a buzz on today

Can you pick up that mic on the way out?
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About VR, I was listening to the radio in my car a couple hours ago and it was the subject matter, funnily enough. The French journalist was saying he got invited by facebook/meta to see their test rigs, that apparently Zuk himself test tries. They said that they were studying ways to trick the brain, not connect to it as I said earlier, but have for example moving screens/lenses in front of the eyes that would cause the eyes to focus in a certain way.

He said it was fascinating, but also that they were far from ready.
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On 15 July 2022 it was 15 and today on 17 July 2022 its 24. Price is going up but still under 22k.

Is there anyone who is greedy at the moment? Just asking

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FYI...from https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/19/whimp/

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If you use the much less common “whimp” instead people may regard you as a little wimpy.

I must admit that I kind of like your whimpiness in some kind of way, and how heavily you seem to want to defend it in a way that borders on desperation .. hahahahaha

I am employing a whimpy spelling of the word wimp...

That said, now I am a wimp for not selling at $60 or 50K? Hilarious.

You likely realize that my reason for describing you as a whimp or wimp or whatever has to do largely with your reference to an accumulation style that seems to considerably hesitate in terms of ongoingly engaging with bitcoin and even buying at any price or whatever.. .. I don't claim to know your exact details, even though I have made some characterization of some of your ways of describing your thinking in regards to BTC accumulation, which subsequently likely affects your fear of selling BTC  since you likely don't even have close to enough - based on what seems to be your own self-imposed limitations.

That's o.k.  it is no big deal to me... even though it can be funny, from time to time, regarding how worked up you seem to get regarding some of these matters.. and you don't really seem to lose your temper as often as you had in earlier times, either..

Sure there seem to be some guys who did end up specifically selling around $50k to $60k, and buying back decently amounts of BTC at decently low prices.. and there seems to be some credibility behind their having had done that - even though I did not really agree with that approach but it did seem to work out pretty well for them both in financial and seemingly psychological ways too.. .. and in the end, each of us have our circumstances - and if you had done the same thing, I might have gotten on your case for engaging in some seemingly inconsistent behaviors.. and I did get on the cases of some of our members who did sell higher and buy lower, even though technically they did end up engaging in financially profitable conduct.    

Here is a bet (nonfunded):

I don't like the idea of calling "unfunded" as a bet... You seem to be making a prediction, and personally, if we are going to bet, I would prefer to actually bet, even if it were to end up being for a decently low quantity of satoshis... but maybe something at least meaningful enough that it might be more than the equivalence of $10.. but of course, if there are disparate odds, then the quantities might be much greater for one side as compared to another.. like for example when you made your bold statement about $200k not being reached by the end of 2022-ish.. something like that.. . and now your statement is not looking so outrageous, even though you went on radio silence when I wanted to try to get you to agree to some kind of monetary value on such bet (empty bet from you, as we subsequently discovered since you did not want to stand behind your own words.. because likely even you realized how extreme they were).

within 2-3 years anyone who sold at 50-60K would be considered a wimp,
That sounds too subjective to me, even though you are making a bullish statement.

It also does not really sound like something that is bettable in the strong enough sense that we would even be able to create bettable terms in which would take opposite sides of such a bet, if we were able to objectively frame it.

unless, of course, they sold at 60K, then bought back at 17.5-20K, but it is REALLY difficult to do if you already did something with that profit plus paid taxes on it; not impossible, but difficult. Every time I sell, I consider that bitcoin gone..but I haven't sell for a while.

I don't know.. a 2x to 3x spread should not be that difficult to justify having had sold.. even if accounting for taxes.  And of course, the sold BTC might have a cost basis of $200 to $3k perhaps, so selling at $60k-ish would be mostly all taxable.. .. but I don't really see any major issue in terms of having to pay taxes based on profits, and it seems that I have declared some BTC sales in my taxes for the past 5 or 6 tax years, and there was even one year that I was nearly finalizing my filing, and then within about 48 hours of my filing it, I discovered some sales that I had made and I had overlooked.... So, I had to spend nearly a day.. trying to figure that part out.. because it kind of threw me for a loop because I was considering that I had not had any reportable sales that year... fuck.. it seems to all have worked out.. .. and I don't feel deterred by any of that.. and even a couple of years, I ended up paying in way more than I usually did because I could not figure out any way to off set them or anything like that...

but it was still well worth it overall from my overall cash flow situation from those years by having those extra BTC to be available to me and to be able to have that money (BTC) was way better than if I had invested that same value in traditional investments.. something like 30x to 40x better.. if you consider in a more overall framework to take a snap shot of various investments and to find total BTC portfolio being UP about 50x to 80x or something like that for around an 8-year period, and various other investments of everything else not including BTC were up like 75% for that same 8-year period.. so something like a 30x to 40x difference in performance depending upon when exactly the snapshot comparative assessment between BTC investments and non-BTC investments would have been taken.

I have a sell order at 100K$. For something like 5% of my stash. The difficulty will be to keep it when we'll be approaching that level, so I'm already preparing myself. When the price goes down under 100K I don't want to have regrets.
You will regret it when it goes past $250k  Cool

I think that guys can figure out various points to shave off even decent quantities of BTC and not feel bad either way.. and there is a way to find that kind of a balance.. and shaving off 5% seems more than reasonable.. .. even though I have some objections to shaving off at round numbers.. so perhaps shaving some off (let's say 3%) in the $85k to $93k range and then doing another shaving of some (let's say 2%) in the $112-$118k range would come off as more reasonable from my way of thinking about lump sum presets.. because I am not so thrilled with rough numbers that everyone else is using.. which can cause for a manipulation point.. .. and then a kind of deadman's zone if the number breaks, then it becomes likely to go shooting past it..

I have a sell order at 100K$. For something like 5% of my stash. The difficulty will be to keep it when we'll be approaching that level, so I'm already preparing myself. When the price goes down under 100K I don't want to have regrets.

Make it 98-99K, lol...but, if we are in a normal circumstances, perhaps at least 10X from the actual bottom would be in play.
However, I decided to probably sell a chunk in 2025 regardless of the price; well, I would not do it if the price would be something silly (on the lower side).

But then you would not have 20 BTC anymore...

 Cry Cry Cry

You would be eliminated from the 20+ BTC club..

Didn't you get the memo?

and when BTC prices reach $10 milliion, you would no longer be able to reach your $200 million fuck you status... that would suck. You would need BTC prices to go higher than $10 million.. #justsaying.

EDIT Since we seem to replay the seventies (with major similarity being boomers vs millennials and the effect of those large cohorts on inflation), it stands to reason that stonks and bond markets might bottom by 2024 (with or without a flat all the way to 2030). Going long equities either on a spike down around 2024 and/or by the end of the decade should be one of those generational decisions: buy and forget about it for 20 years.

You're selling BTC so that you can buy stonks..

hahahahaha

you really take the cake, sometimes.


In other words.. you sound diluted..  (a while back, I had already determined that might be part of your problem... your underlying "whimpy" problem... hahahahahahaha)..


No not necessarily deluded (but maybe that too?) but diluted..
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Telling us all Putin is a monster whilst licking a real monster's butt.
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Let's cancel the Keystone XL so no oil jobs for you polluting Americans and Canadians, but plenty for religious nutters.

Fuck Joe Biden and the Kamal he came riding in on.

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USA is having hard time in convincing there Gulf slaves that they have to side with usa on ukarine issue. So far Gulf countries haven't sided with any in ukarine conflict. Rather KSA is also buying cheap Russian oil and will suplply that to usa and Europe.
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