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"Speaking for all the bitcoiners, we feel like we're trapped in a dysfunctional relationship with crypto and we want out."Never have truer words been spoken. Although I have some criticisms of Saylor, I do tend to find myself agreeing with almost everything he's said over the last couple of years. +1 A true and perfectly phrased comment by Saylor. The faster the crypto space disintegrates, the better. I hope this latest collapse serves as free NYKNYC education for the masses (free for most, very expensive for some). I was pondering whether I should say anything about that Saylor interview. Let me break my silence. I thought that the interview was not very good - because it seemed to me that Saylor was not really answering the questions very well - because Saylor kept suggesting that bitcoin is the best, and shitcoins suck and even there are needs to regulate scammers - and even though there may be some correctness in points that he was making, I felt that the points were not really being very well expressed to get to the heart of the matter, even though it is possible that regulation could have fixed some of these matters, but it is almost acting as if there is a need for a world-wide government to regulate exchanges - and surely legislators are not going to carry that out in any kind of way that is going to be helpful in terms of empowering regular people to not have their money stolen or to have central parties engaging in fraudulent misrepresentations regarding their solvency and their use of client funds to gamble or to rehypothecate multiple circular propping up of the value of their Ponzi-scheme shitshow of appearances of value.. until the many houses of cards come crumbling down way quicker than anyone would have expected.. .. like going from something like $32 Billion to zero or even lower than zero in a matter of a few days. It's not that I really disagree completely with Saylor - but it seems that fraud laws are already in place - so the vague calls for regulation seemed problematic in terms of solutions to the problem of attempting to re-inspire confidence of institutions in regards to the likely ongoingly good long-term investment thesis in bitcoin. For me, it is surely NOT any kind of "hit it out of the ballpark" interview in regards to the sad times that we are currently going through with our ongoing negative price pressures on our lil precious.. I don't disagree with any of the things you're saying. This was not one of the good interviews of Saylor. My post was referring to his comment, highlighted in purple above, which I think was very well put. It is true that over the last several years the Bitcoin space has been invaded by thousands of "crypto projects", the vast majority of which are greed-driven "solutions" searching for a problem, and negate all the important properties that make Bitcoin what it is. But, yes, Saylor was not at his best in this interview. He seemed a little uneasy and frustrated. Bitcoin is not currently where he was expecting it to be, as, I'm sure, is the case for many of us WOers, including yours truly. But I'm not worried. To me, all this Luna, Celsius, FTX shit is a robustness test for Bitcoin. It was bound to happen, and it will keep happening. There is no point in trying to shield Bitcoin from all this. The network should be able to handle it without external help. And it does, with flying colors. And all this makes it stronger, while weeding out all the scams and shitcoins and Ponzis. There are side-effects, for sure. Every time this happens, the price dips and progress gets delayed by a few months or a year. Smart players take advantage of those situations by stacking more coins at bargain prices and patiently HoDLing and waiting it out, while weak hands sell at a loss or get wiped out by having given their keys to scammers like SBF. I think all of this is organic, inevitable and expected. And it strengthens Bitcoin in the long term. Bitcoin is not a get-rich-quick scheme, and anyone who treats it as such will have to face the consequences sooner or later.
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November 12, 2022, 04:48:52 PM |
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Financial conditions are easier then they were a month ago. @Bitcoin
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It's dumping.. and obviously, we will certainly have a bad weekend. let's stay strong and hope that #Bitcoin BTC won't go below $14,000...! @SydneyIfergan
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November 12, 2022, 05:07:49 PM |
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It's time to buy bitcoin now. Maybe it won't make you rich soon but at least it helps save money in the near future (5 - 10 years). I save bitcoin for my children and grandchildren.
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November 12, 2022, 05:35:14 PM |
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It's dumping.. and obviously, we will certainly have a bad weekend. let's stay strong and hope that #Bitcoin BTC won't go below $14,000...! @SydneyIfergan^^^ cmon bro you're like a slower version of ChartBuddy.. why bother posting old news. this is what it looks like right now at least you resized your image
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November 12, 2022, 06:46:13 PM |
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November 12, 2022, 07:00:04 PM |
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well, the twitter source put MtGox in a wrong spot (it collapsed in Feb 2014), but otherwise, an interesting thought.
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November 12, 2022, 07:15:07 PM |
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I doubt that. That's just some lame excuse father they themselves have stolen the funds of their customers. Then they want to point the finger towards hackers. FTX is looking for possible ways not to pay back Its customers and I sure Its gonna succeed.
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November 12, 2022, 07:23:51 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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LOL. Laura Shin might actually just be a psyop. She has been, for YEARS, one of the "reporters" who seems to completely miss the point of Bitcoin, and majors on all the stupid bullshit scams instead. ERC20, Defi, Web3... all that sort of nonsense. That's what she thinks matters... while she poo poos the idea that BITCOIN is really the real deal. All the while pretending to be neutral.
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November 12, 2022, 07:27:44 PM |
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Were those guys FTX customers too?
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November 12, 2022, 07:32:19 PM |
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So ...
Just flow with me here for a sec... What if this whole FTX thing was really a set-up. Powers that be come in... got SB-F hooked on SOMETHING. Have you seen the videos of him vibrating like a diesel engine? Then start making less and less veiled threats 'till they set up the collapse. Have legislation ready in the countries they control to try to bring the whole thing down over a few weeks...
Nah. Just a ponzi prolly.
[ ] Also this. https://www.weforum.org/organizations/ftxAll these lenders/exchanges fail one after another. I wouldn't be too surprised, if setting up (some of) these companies just to pull the plug afterwards was an attack of tptb. We are in an era of covert wars so it would fit the zeitgeist. So few see it still... which makes me fear we are doomed. Almost no one realizes we are ~50 years into WWIII. But it's getting pretty heavy now. The next few years will be interesting if nothing else.
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November 12, 2022, 08:01:14 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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So ...
Just flow with me here for a sec... What if this whole FTX thing was really a set-up. Powers that be come in... got SB-F hooked on SOMETHING. Have you seen the videos of him vibrating like a diesel engine? Then start making less and less veiled threats 'till they set up the collapse. Have legislation ready in the countries they control to try to bring the whole thing down over a few weeks...
Nah. Just a ponzi prolly.
[ ] Also this. https://www.weforum.org/organizations/ftxAll these lenders/exchanges fail one after another. I wouldn't be too surprised, if setting up (some of) these companies just to pull the plug afterwards was an attack of tptb. We are in an era of covert wars so it would fit the zeitgeist. So few see it still... which makes me fear we are doomed. Almost no one realizes we are ~50 years into WWIII. But it's getting pretty heavy now. The next few years will be interesting if nothing else. ..because we aren't, perhaps? I don't think you know how WWIII would really look like.
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November 12, 2022, 08:01:17 PM |
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November 12, 2022, 08:05:11 PM Last edit: November 12, 2022, 08:21:06 PM by LDL |
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World Economic Forum (WEF) was supporting FTX and SBF's aunt Linda Fried scientist of epidemiology which strongly connected with WEF.
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