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buddy be doing quite a streak 131 in a row 29k slot.

Is this the most in a row for buddy in any slot over 1k?

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best scene for me was when god allowed evil leftovers to survive.

Me as well, I like at the end when the kid returns home and accidentally brought back chunks of pure evil with him. His parents are looking at a chunk on the lawn, so he says, "Don't touch it! It's evil!" So they immediately touch it and explode.

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[...] and the sells are $500 increments until $31.5k-ish then they go into $1k increments, and they slowly get bigger and BIGger and BIGGER... until $5k increments between $120k-ish and $150k-ish..
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The royal we are already sorry for your loss. May I ask what is causing the compulsory selling (since $300 or so)?

Do I feel like punishing uie-pooie with a long post on the topic, or might I contemplate a way to be charitable and largely just proclaim that I am engaged in a kind of portfolio management strategy.. .and surely it seems that I have explained it quite a few times, yet maybe I did not go into every single detail in the sense that each of us does have to find a kind of BTC portfolio management approach that is sufficiently comfortable for our own situation.

Another thing that I have mentioned in terms of my motivation for such practice has been that largely between late 2013 and late 2014, I figured out that my own particular BTC accumulation goal was likely to be in a kind of harmony so long as I reached a 10% BTC allocation when calculating the whole of my quasi-liquid investment portfolio, and by the end of 2014, I had already reached such 10% target - but many of us already know what happened in 2015 (and if we do not know, we surely could look at a bitcoin price chart and see that bitcoin got caught in a mostly mid-$200s bottom for the whole of that year, and I started 2015 with around a n upper $500s per BTC cost per bitcoin, but as the year went on (even though I had some cashflow difficulties during that year) whatever bitcoin that I had purchased in 2015 had brought my allocation up to about 13.5%-ish and had also brought my average cost per BTC down to about $500 - if not going below $500 per BTC.

So in essence by the middle of 2015 I could already see my allocation progressing towards the 13.5% and by the end of 2015 I had largely reached it, and surely any sales that I was making wast to recognize and appreciate that I was at least 3.5% overly allocated based on my investments into BTC - while at the same time we likely know what happened in late 2015 and even into 2016 and 2017 (if not we can look at the bitcoin charts), which is even though I had figured out various formulas to shave bitcoin profits off on the way up, my overall allocation in bitcoin went from 13.5% at the end of 2015 to over 75% by the end of 2017 (in spite of my shaving off small amounts of bitcoin within my formulas/self-madeup portfolio management theories), and so sure the dip from late 2017 to various low parts of 2018, 2019 and 2020, still did not bring me below 45% allocation because largely I was using the proceeds from the sales of BTC on the way up to mostly be buying on the way down (an other angle of the BTC portfolio maintenance approach that I had decided to take).

I am not even going to suggest that my system is any kind of a genius system but it surely is not even selling a very large portion of the profits, no matter how I slice it I still consider what I am doing as overwhelmingly HODL and accumulate, even though it includes selling and buying back within parameters.. kind of robotic stuff that already can be seen in advance and the worse case situation is if the BTC price goes shooting all the way up to $150k and further and never comes back down, so then in those circumstances, maybe I end up selling 10% (or probably even less based on my current formulas)of my BTC holdings. which is a BIG whooptie-doo given that the HODLings would have had gone up 5x and then less than 10% ends up getting shaved off, it is still up 4.9x or whatever I don't even necessarily have the exact numbers figured out in any kind of way to know that my already existing formulas do not even sell very much BTC, even in the worse case scenarios of the BTC price going straight up.. and even with that.. we know that bitcoin prices do not even go straight up.. and even when the do go straight up they still end up coming back down, and I don't even necessarily want them to come down because my formulas already establish that I am worth way more (likely multiples - probably more like magnitudes more) when the BTC prices are up rather than when they go down.

It seems to me that I have argued an justified what I am doing several times in the sense that it is tailored to my own circumstances including my various financial and psychological details, and I largely share what I am doing, and I could give less than 1 ratt's ass if anyone wants to try to carry out some variation of what I am doing, and at the same time, I feel somewhat flattered when some people say that they are attempting to employ some variation of what I am doing, and surely maybe they employing their own version that might be correct or not so correct, but if they believe that it is working for them, then I feel somewhat flattered when they say that they had learned from my approach.. and sure at the same time, sometimes when I ask them what they are doing (to get into specifics), then I might find out that they are doing some things differently, which may or may not end up working out as well.

Another thing is that I know and I appreciate that sometimes I could play the swings bigger and end up profiting, but I am not going to do it, and it is really hard to know whether I am mentally capable of doing what LFC did in terms of selling off something like 25% of his BTC holdings in the mid $50ks and feeling comfortable to "wait out" some of his buy backs, and sure maybe he ran out of money too in terms of buying most back before $20k.. but then he was also holding out some money to buy back in the lower $10ks.. which surely we know that did not end up happening, but his system may have ended up financially profiting more than mine (perhaps).. there are quite a few angels in which either variation, or even some other variations can be justified.. so in that sense I remain comfortable with mine, even though surely I can see some things that I could have had done better, but I still have difficulties to make any extreme changes to a system that I feel is ongoingly working quit well for me, and largely seems to end up contributing to my psychological comfort to have both over-accumulated into a 13.5%-ish territory in late 2015 and then mostly not even selling very much of that overall overallocations that I had made.. even though people might speculate that I am selling a lot on the way up, and surely it might seem like a lot to some normies, but it still remains quite small portions of my overall BTC portfolio... even if we look at the next BTC price rise in 2021, I might have gotten to something like 90% bitcoin in my overall investment portfolio, but even the seemingly extreme drops in 2022 still did not even bring my BTC holdings below 70%**.. which surely still seems like a PRETTY FUCKING BIG ongoing over allocation into bitcoin..but ends up being a kind of "let your winners" ride philosophy - and I still believe that I feel much better with employing a "let your winners ride" investment approach - when it comes to BTC based on my relatively small maintenance practices of selling mostly slivers on the way up.

**Oh, and by the way, I do recall that I did make a chart on June 29, 2022 (at the end of this link) that shows that I had gotten down to 63% in my BTC allocation at that time, which I may well have to go back and figure it out whether I did actually get below 70% at any point in this latest dip, and we know that the low of the dip for 2022 was in November, so I might have to go back through and revise that chart at some points, and sure maybe I did end up going below 60%, or maybe I was just attempting to exercise a wee bit of "artistic freedom" in the sense of the ball-parked nature of hypotheticals that relate to personal circumstances.... . and the fictional JayJuanGee.. blah blah blah did this, this and this.. which is not easy to accomplish while ONLY maintaining somewhat more than 0.63 BTC.  

And, look what you did bitebits.   Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry   You prodded me into saying more than I thought that I was going to say.  

[...] and the sells are $500 increments until $31.5k-ish then they go into $1k increments, and they slowly get bigger and BIGger and BIGGER... until $5k increments between $120k-ish and $150k-ish..
The royal we are already sorry for your loss. May I ask what is causing the compulsory selling (since $300 or so)?
Caused by his excel suggestions?  Roll Eyes

One of my kids keeps selling his brokerage account every time justifying it by saying that he "rounds" it up...lol

Maybe that particular kid of yours is a "secret" or not so secret JJG fan, but so far, he has not gotten the formula application correct, yet.



Perhaps?




Perhaps?

[...] and the sells are $500 increments until $31.5k-ish then they go into $1k increments, and they slowly get bigger and BIGger and BIGGER... until $5k increments between $120k-ish and $150k-ish..
The royal we are already sorry for your loss. May I ask what is causing the compulsory selling (since $300 or so)?
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some peeps have always have sells laddered and waiting.

cost basis has a lot to do with it. hard to lose when its below $100 usd

Fair point.

This guy (aka vapourminer) seems to get it.
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The thread i am talking about. Well, i now i should reply there but what i could reply there if i cannot understand the exact meaning of the statments. Should the Bitcoin community be concerned about BlackRock? Then i came to remember what jayjuangee said, he said i can ask anything here.

Yep.. I did pretty much say that you can ask anything that you want in this thread as long as you don't pump shitcoins... and so it might not always be clear when some members are pumping shitcoins.., and some still do it.

I also did not say whether any guys here would be nice to you, including yours truly... .. including whether getting irritated by grammar and spelling mistakes that don't seem to be on purpose...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  and then also sometimes guys (and gal here) might suggest that you make another thread on your topic, which in the case of your post, I don't see any reason to make another thread.. .. it seems to be both a relevant and current-events kind of a bitcoin and potentially price-impacting kind of a question... not that anyone will end up answering your question either.. but maybe ask another question, which might mean that we have psyOPs in these here parts... not going to mention any names, but you know who you are.. you fucks.

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Hi  welcome, I strongly suggest you read the entire post history of jjg then we can answer all of your questions.

Ps please don't post any twittet/x quotes in here unless extremely important  Wink

Good luck with that... see you in a few years Dictator69.
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Pro Bitcoin candidate wins in Argentian Election.
Wins president, wins Bitcoin
Bitcoin wins in Argentian..
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Bitcoin Pro government in Argentina after Salvador really bullish Bitcoin price in this native currency pesos,
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NEW - 🇦🇷 Argentine Pro-#Bitcoin    presidential candidate Javier Milei wins the Presidential Primary as #BTC    makes a new ATH in pesos..

Bitcoin revolution is on hype, slow and steady every will taste financial freedom and will say good bye to shit banking system
Le Argentina to typical banking system:
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Wins president, wins Bitcoin
Bitcoin wins in Argentian..
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Bitcoin Pro government in Argentina after Salvador really bullish Bitcoin price in this native currency pesos,
According to Bitcoin magazine:
NEW - 🇦🇷 Argentine Pro-#Bitcoin    presidential candidate Javier Milei wins the Presidential Primary as #BTC    makes a new ATH in pesos..

Bitcoin revolution is on hype, slow and steady every will taste financial freedom and will say good bye to shit banking system
Le Argentina to typical banking system:


 No bullshitting allowed in here with your unlabelled graphs and misrepresentation of the direction of the Peso and bitcoin.



As you can clearly see from my clearly-labelled graph, the news of the Argentine election didn't sit well with tptb so they are purposely inflating the Peso into oblivion.  This means bitcoin is great for Argentina but we already knew it was just as great for everyone, everywhere; except for eXpHorizon who likely wouldn't know what to do with it if he could obtain it.

 edit: What I was trying to say is that Argentinians who held bitcoin a few days ago have only been spared the effects of extreme inflation.  They aren't richer per se even as bitcoin makes new ATHs against the Peso.
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I haven't heard of any validators either. Maybe it refers to some centralized organizations that use bitcoin? Then it also has nothing to do with bitcoin.
I am talking about making a collude or some group in which they come to gather to manipulate the market. But, in my opinion that's not possible because BTC is decentralized so i think i should agree with you and my doubts as well.

Accordingly, it is important to remember that true bitcoins are only on the bitcoin blockchain, any ersatz bitcoins from funds are not true bitcoins, and may behave quite differently from true bitcoins, and have a completely different value. Therefore, it makes sense for yourself to choose only true bitcoins. No matter how big funds try to manipulate our opinion.
Yes, we should prefer to buy BTC and be boss of our own funds no just hand our money into the hands of BlackRock or any other company applying for ETFs. But at the other end a lot of people saying including me thinks that when these ETFs will get approved BTC will get hype.

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As you can clearly see from my clearly-labelled graph, the news of the Argentine election didn't sit well with tptb so they are purposely inflating the Peso into oblivion.  This means bitcoin is great for Argentina but we already knew it was just as great for everyone, everywhere; except for eXpHorizon who likely wouldn't know what to do with it if he could obtain it.

I assume he would just use the same vending machine we all do, the one that takes BTC for hookers and blow. But he probably wouldn't know what to do with hookers and blow either.
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When it comes to posting unlabelled graphs, there is only one graph that needs to be posted to represent the true value of BTC during recent months:


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Anyone with a large enough holding can manipulate the market.

Market prices depend largely on exchanges which can be manipulated with mere hundreds of bitcoins.

The big players transact OTC in thousands or tens of thousands of coins.

They're more than happy to lose smaller amounts on exchanges in order to accumulate or liquidate much more OTC in order to realize great profits, usually Bitcoin profits.
Hmm, it means they will try to manipulate the market, but should we care as Who is John Galt? said we cannot do anything about it because buying and selling of BTC is open for everyone and the text i bolded took me some time to understand but what i understand for this is, if a person let's say Dictator69 wants to sell BTC on exchange and some company like BlackRock contacts the Dictator69 to make OTC deal, in this deal both parties will have huge profits.

But how can they contact me, like if a seller selling big amount of BTC then how a company like BlackRock come to get the contact details of that seller on that exchange. Because we just sign up on exchanges like we also do KYC but how could they get our details. I am still new to the field and i did not knew about this OTC deals.
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Yes, we should prefer to buy BTC and be boss of our own funds no just hand our money into the hands of BlackRock or any other company applying for ETFs. But at the other end a lot of people saying including me thinks that when these ETFs will get approved BTC will get hype.

If large fund ETFs are approved, it will most likely push the price of bitcoin up and there will be hype. Just because I don't like the coming of these funds doesn't mean I won't take advantage of the opportunities it could open up for me personally. Yes, I see potential risks for the development of bitcoin due to the possible manipulation of centralized corporations with their fake bitcoins and the concentration of real bitcoins in one hand through the sale of ersatz bitcoins. But personally for myself, I still think it's right to get an extra couple of satoshi more, real satoshi, in the bitcoin blockchain. When problems arise with ersatz bitcoins, perhaps people will better understand the value of real bitcoins.
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