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On the one hand I am obviously happy when the ETF gets approved. There is an ocean of dollars out there that can't use Coinbase/Kraken/Binance and the like. On the other hand I notice I am a bit sad by the thought of it, Bitcoin will never be the same anymore afterwards. It leads to more centralisation and retail buying ETF shares will never learn to self custody and transact in bitcoin (and therefore fully understand and experience Bitcoin). Creating paper bitcoins is a very tempting threat. Wallstreet will love their new and volatile toy for daytarding and there are heaps of trading fees to be earned by the exchanges, encouraging it to change hands like a hot potato. I can even imagine once Blackrock and the likes get a decent market share they start to have an opinion on blocksize, which transactions should and shouldn't be in a block, etc.

Let's see how it evolves, can't do much about it except for not buying those ETF's and hodl your own coins.

Well put.

The way I am digesting this is we MUST see multiple ways to hold/use bitcoin...

Bitcoin backed banks will solve these problems. They can work like banks did before nationalization of currency. Different banks can have different policies, some more aggressive, some more conservative. Some would be fractional reserve while others may be 100% Bitcoin backed. Interest rates may vary. Cash from some banks may trade at a discount to that from others.

The bitcoin ETFs will be ways to hold bitcoin in a highly trustful and possibly "fractional reserve" sort of way.

It is entirely inevitable. 

BEACUSE Bitcoin is available to everyone to use in whatever way they want as long as it fits the consensus rules.

So:

It WILL be used by terrorists. (Name your fav... they use it)
It WILL be used for people who want freedom (Canadian truckers)
It WILL be used by the unsavory (sex workers)
It WILL be used by those breaking the law (darknet)
It WILL be used by the powerful (Blackrock)

And by the same fundamental power it will be used by US (you and I).  The people still yearning to be free.

And freedom technologies will continue to evolve to use it for "all the right reasons" that YOU care about.  (Lightning, NOSTR, Liquid, Cashu, and on and on...)

What a fucking amazing time to be alive.
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 I don't know why but words seem to trigger my music memory quite often Smiley

 Aldo Nova-Fantasy 2021 Smokin" Hot Version

 I'm no producer but it feels like he added distortion to everything - including the title! (Smokin" rather than Smokin')  Still a good tune after all these years.


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What you have prepared for Christmas?

https://i.ibb.co/xqB746m/20231224-112122.jpg

Christmas dinner gonna be hard this year!!

https://i.ibb.co/tQFzbrz/20231224-112529.jpg

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are asking for 50k
on christmas day yeah!

Sleigh bells gently ring,
Gliding through the snow-kissed night,
Christmas dreams take wing.

Mistletoe poms poms
Christmas lime tree all dressed up
Mermaids murmuring

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https://www.reuters.com/technology/sec-tells-spot-bitcoin-etf-hopefuls-make-final-changes-by-year-end-sources-2023-12-22/

It is safe to say now that the 10th Jan will be the D-day. Almost 2 weeks to the next milestone in the mass adoption. Some will try to milk the pump with high leveraged longs. But they might get rekkt. Although I expect 50K in the next month, I'm looking for the real impact of these multi trillion companies on the spot market. The next 2 years will be fun to watch. 100K is inevitable. I guess a peak above 200K in this bull market is quite possible. We should be prepared. Wink
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I don't know why but words seem to trigger my music memory quite often Smiley

Funny, i can relate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwrqQ2jYpwY

When i was reading your reply, the bold word triggered this in my mind  Cool

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 I'm no producer but it feels like he added distortion to everything - including the title! (Smokin" rather than Smokin')  Still a good tune after all these years.

Yeah. Sounds like playback through a broken speaker. Great, powerful voice, though. Never heard this song before.
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 I don't know why but words seem to trigger my music memory quite often Smiley

 Aldo Nova-Fantasy 2021 Smokin" Hot Version

 I'm no producer but it feels like he added distortion to everything - including the title! (Smokin" rather than Smokin')  Still a good tune after all these years.

Whenever I see posts like this, I feel the urge to comment. Most people wouldn't have spotted (or be bothered by) the highlighted. OCD, I know, but I consider it a virtue to pay attention to details.
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