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January 03, 2024, 06:02:40 PM

O/T Rant:

Was looking at buying a sports car for a bit of fun.
I had no idea road tax vehicle tax rules had become so complicated here in the UK until I spoke with the dealer today.

Who the fuck comes up with such a stupid system?
"Conservatives" my ass.

You pay a premium for the first year based on emissions, then a standard rate for subsequent years.
BUT if your car costs more than 40K (almost all nice cars now do), you have to pay an additional premium on top of the standard rate for the first 5 years,
but that first 5 years is counted from the second year onwards, not the first.

Also this is only if you buy a new car, for older cars there are different rules and you may only pay a flat rate.

I think for cars below 2017 you may have to pay lesser based on the current tax band system.

Maybe you can scan through this:
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/consumer-news/88361/20232024-ved-road-tax-how-does-uk-car-tax-work-and-how-much-will-it-cost-you

Yes thanks, there are several articles explaining this.
That additional 40K premium isn't for electric cars, only ICE cars.
Presumably more complexity will be added if people do indeed switch more to electric and the government will be forced to recoup more money from them.

Probably instate a 40K non ICE car premium I bet.

That's what these tax fuckers most likely will do.
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well my pretties...happy new year...here we go agane
at the Wall...where the days are long and the years short
i shan't bore you with trivial details of a path less taken...suffice to say it was filled with the typical ups and downs that is life...and that i am strangely content
making...building, fixing things...this is the way

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clearing the deck with a gfy candle, bitcoin is currently trading near $42.8kish on moderate volumes

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a rising sea state...volatility likely to remain entrenched locally...buyin the dips 'cause the bull is coming

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It's kind of funny that they had to roll out "bazooka" Cramer (in reverse mode, of course) to cool the momentum  Roll Eyes.
It "worked' like a charm...for now.

As far as ETF's are concerned...Invesco has 0% fees for 6mo/5bil in assets (0.59% after that), next is Fidelity with 0.39%.
Imho, Blackrock would come up with...drum roll...0.36% or so, beating Fidelity, but just barely.
We should know by the EOW.
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January 03, 2024, 11:35:21 PM

well the Oct 2020 to April 2022 time frame was good but a lot of stuff happened :

pandemic
supply chain
China tore the heart 💜 out of the hashrate.
Sbf

I guess a lot of figuring for the future is more or less a guess.

Do you do this just to irritate "some" people?  You pick these seemingly random periods in which to make some kind of a status assessment.

I think that yuou might be somewhat caught up in mainstream kind of narratives and frameworks, because how else are you going to frame where bitcoin might be from that kind of a timeline? and selection of highlighted issues?


but dec 2017 to jan 2024 is just a bit more than inflation. say 2.3x

 It is still not that representative of how to figure out where bitcoin is.. I mean starting from the top of 2017?

Think about it Phil.

Let's say that you totally fucked up your whole bitcoin journey from 2011 to 2017 and you did not really figure out that it is good to hang onto bitcoin until right before the December 2017 top... so at that point, if you figured out that you need to make up for some lost time, you are not going to be getting 2.3x.. because even you would not have plugged in some kind of a lump sum at the very top and then just sat on it for more than 6 years.

Think about it further, if you had stopped with cashing out every year and focused on and actual investment timeline of 6-7 years, and then bought aggressively around $250 per week for that whole time (and don't tell me that $250 per week would have been out of your joint income budget to be able to accomplish without too much pain), then if you got in with $250 per week at the beginning of the fiscal year 2017 and invested $250 per week until now, you would have had invested $81,750 and accumulated 7.131 BTC (currently valued at $304k), with an average cost per BTC of $11,464, so right around 3.73x in profits (rather than 2.3x), and so not a bad place to be.. and presumably that would not be all of your investments, and hopefully your BTC investment has done at least that good from late 2017 until now..

of course the early 2020 drop to 3900 to jan 2024 is smoking hot 11/12x move.

I don't mind measuring from March 2020 to present, even though March 2020 was a bit of a Black swan event, but there could have had been some ways to get into BTC for a lot of that period with considerable lump sums that might average between $6,500 and $7,500, but I hate to attribute so much perfection to people who might have been working on getting into bitcoin in 2018, 2019 and 2020... even though surely there were some pretty decent price dippening periods during that time, but it still becomes quite difficult to keep your average cost per BTC down below the DCA amount, even though it would not have had been impossible to imagine some BTC bullish (or might we say BTC aggressive investing) folks with average costs per BTC that are somewhere between $6,500 and $11k during that period.

Remember poor widdo mindrust nearly killed himself during that period (even though his was more narrowly prompted by the March 2020 liquidation event, but his admittedly overly-aggressive BTC accumulation behaviors in 2018 and 2019 contributed to his March 2020 set up for a panic), and he seemed to have gotten his average cost per BTC down to somewhere in the mid $4ks because that was around the price that he sold his supposed 10 BTC and then bought back 1 BTC... and yeah hopefully he has more than 1 BTC now, even though he kept his promise to stay out of this thread for the past nearly 4 years.. which as an active forum member, he does continue to seem a bit stubborn in those regards.
 
so the wrong six years and a month 2.3x
the right three years and 10 months 11.6x

Stop trying to time perfection.. that just seems ridiculous... even though maybe I should give you a wee bit of a break since I see that you are striving to paint something resembling the extremes of a long only non-leveraged approach to BTC investing/accumulation during the past 6 years-ish.

heres hoping to see 11.6x in three years and ten months.

which gets us to 500k by nov 2028 works for me.

Whoaza!!!!!

That is a strange way of reaching your conclusion. to pick the extreme of how we got to where we are at currently and then project that out for the next time period.

You deserve a slap for that, even if you might have a fairly reasonable number, but how you got there is a wee much, no?

which gets us to 500k by nov 2028 works for me.
I'm not sure that Nov 2028 and $1M are in our touch...Future prediction.  Cheesy

You are going with Philip's looney framing?

You probably deserve a slap, too.

Birds of a feather flock together..

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I’m very curious how next week is going to go.

Why don't we finish seeing this week first?

#asking for a friend

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Looks like the recent Matrixport ETF rejection article could be FUD... In any case, there will be legal implications if the ETF applications are rejected, which won't be pretty for the SEC/Gensler.

CoinGape — Crypto Lawyer Names Legal Implication of Spot Bitcoin ETF Denial


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Edit: Matrixport's Co-Founder & ChairmanJihan Wu   Wink
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Breaking: Found my old Ledger Nano, which was believed to be lost.

Don't ask  Cheesy  Cheesy Cheesy

I am a bit ashamed to admit that once I had "lost" my wallet and found it 2-3 years later in my jacket pocket.  

It was in the same place that I would have had put a wallet if I were wearing that jacket, which apparently I was wearing that particular jacket at or near the time that I lost my wallet.

Inquiring minds ddddddddddddooooooooooooo


wanna know.


Also, if I recall you had already done a replacement, so what would be the plan.. Ledger has been getting a lot of bad press recently, but they still seem to be selling a lot of devices.  Some folks don't seem to care too much about the security of their coins (from the privacy angle, and perhaps other ways that Ledgers seem to be more vulnerable than necessary).

Iknow that, it's better to have nothing to lose.

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You mean that you are over-invested Leahized?

Over the years, quite a few newbies have come into this thread and have tried to help emphasize various dumb-ass talking points.

They come, and they go, but what happens to king daddy?

Hopefully, you have already chosen to get some Leahized, just in case.

And, if you had happened to overinvest, then hopefully you either still have more money to continue to buy, or you just HODL through your mistake and either wait for more cash to come in or for the BTC price to go up.  There are always going to be newbies, and usually the first cycle is the toughest...

but if you have a decently consistent BTC accumulation practice, everything will likely work itself out.. It is not guaranteed, but that is on you to figure out the whole balance of how much to invest, how to invest, and hopefully erroring on the side of accumulating and holding.

For every loser there's still a winner. Actually there are a lot more losers than winners, just as there are a lot more casinos than gamblers.

Are you referring to the Pareto principle?

Curiosity didn't kill this cat.    Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue










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Looks like the recent Matrixport ETF rejection article could be FUD... In any case, there will be legal implications if the ETF applications are rejected, which won't be pretty for the SEC/Gensler.

CoinGape — Crypto Lawyer Names Legal Implication of Spot Bitcoin ETF Denial


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expect not a single shit of bljatkooin aprooved and i dare the fags to sue

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Happy birthday, Bitcoin!

 


Sorry I'm a little late but I had some trouble with VLC on win10 and a 4k TV - it would only capture a 1920x1080 portion of the entire frame, VSDC - steeeeeep learning curve, EZGif.com - which would not play with me and my original mpg file and talkimg.com - just being finicky so I used postimages.org.  Been a tough day all around starting with the tankening... thankfully, both Bitcoin and I are recovering nicely Smiley

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Just a soft reminder to philipma1957. ChartBuddy is catching up quite fast. In few days he might cross philipma1957

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Yeah my birthday is this month. I should effort for buddy to pass me by on my 67th birthday.
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yea, 67 is now a full SocSec age....used to be 65, but then they changed to something weird (for most: some years plus months, but for people born after 1960-67 years exactly).
I still have a few years to go, but for people approaching the date and still working the question is: do i take it at full retirement age (FRA, like 67 or slightly less ) or at 70. More money at 70 (as much as 24% more), but you miss out on 3 years when you could have used the cash to, for example, invest in something like bitcoin, property, etc. Considering that SocSec would have some kind of "crisis" by 2033-2035 (with a potential 20-23% cut), maybe it literally pays to take it at FRA.

Any of us in bitcoin should be able to make up the difference between 62 and 68 or whatever it might be, so I am sort of a fan to just start collecting it right away.. but surely the variables are going to differ. .and then how much is it that you need in order to be at fuck you status (even if you are not completely there)? 

Let's say for example that a few years ago, you thought that your social security, pension and 401k and/or whatever else you have (not counting bitcoin) was going to be able to pay around 140% of your monthly expenses, but then a lot of things might have had to have been cut in half in regards to your expectations, so I am not saying any of that would be going to zero, including social security, but the debased dollars are likely causing it to be way lees able to pay your expenses than you had anticipated.. Accordingly, you need a supplement, and in comes bitcoin... so maybe you don't have full entry level fuck you status with bitcoin but if you have 50% of entry-level fuck you status, then it may well be enough to supplement your other items... yet with anything, it sure would feel comfortable to have a wee bit of a cushion, and likely bitcoin will have good chances of keeping up with inflation (debasement) in such a way that it makes up for several of the short-falls of the other funds..

Of course, we likely don't have guarantees, yet bitcoin does seem to be an ongoingly great hedge as a supplement income..

Breaking: Found my old Ledger Nano, which was believed to be lost.

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Ok I won’t. I wouldn’t want to start a Ledger shitstorm in here.
Because that never happens.  Wink

Yes pobrecitos.

sorry for your loss.

and your persistent, consistent, ongoing and stubborn lackening of HW enlightenment.

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So I didn't read your post right off (it's a thought provoking image after all) and got all kinds of excited thinking you found a way to realtime that gif 😂
Untill I saw the counter reset, then I read the post.
Long story short I wanted to make a signature that displayed an accurate block countdown on page refresh/block find and I thought you had it.
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