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February 10, 2024, 08:19:39 PM

Another reason to avoid CEX

There is really no extent CEX will not go to in their collaboration with the authorities. Here is UK regulators requesting for information about wallets users of CEX withdraw to, with special emphasis on self-custodian wallets. This is indeed another reason CEX should be avoided.


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Isn't CEX a second hand media store?
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February 10, 2024, 08:31:11 PM
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llama llama.

"alpaca" may be the cooler animal and i remember the alpaca socks thing. but. "llama llama" sounds cooler. its even fun to type.
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February 10, 2024, 08:55:54 PM
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llama llama.

"alpaca" may be the cooler animal and i remember the alpaca socks thing. but. "llama llama" sounds cooler. its even fun to type.


They're all giraffes as far as i'm concerned.

But I get a nice tingly feeling when our local giraffe posts. Smiley

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February 10, 2024, 09:05:24 PM
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llama llama.

"alpaca" may be the cooler animal and i remember the alpaca socks thing. but. "llama llama" sounds cooler. its even fun to type.


 Sounds almost as cool as forty-eight thousand dollars per bitcoin.
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 Sounds almost as cool as forty-eight thousand dollars per bitcoin.
I bet $50K would be cooler.
Where are those waiting for the bottom to buy?
We breaking through walls
Bitcoin a juggernaut.
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February 10, 2024, 09:39:04 PM
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BlackRock, Fidelity and others have been reaching out desperately to the Bargain Boyz trying to cut an otc deal with them but they refuse to even listen to offers.

Insiders are buying now bc they know the OTC sellers have almost completely dried up and the exchanges are about to run out of coins next.


They call it "Spot" ETF, but they buy bought OTC?

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this is what i see:
a green ramp of upity.
to infinity!

and beyond we go.
like buzz lightyear, do you know?
with hookers and blow

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OT alert...

Last time my daughter visited, I was like "hey lets go out to eat!"  (I don't like going to out eat solo anymore for reasons, but love to take my daughter out when she visits)
I could tell from body language she was not on board.
"Daddy, lets do DoorDash"
"I don't have that app"
"I'll install it, just need your cc #"
"oh ok, whatever floats your boat to inspire more visits to your weird, boring, aging dad"...

As if I need any more excuses not to get out of house.
Now when I'm too lazy too cook because shots, I DoorDash and watch the phone screen as it tracks the car approaching my house with my munchies.
Oh the humanity...


Oh dear... looks like driver took a wrong turn there. Bang a you-ee dude!!   lol

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Mexican food. DoorDash delivered no less.
But is it just me? ...I always notice after attacking nachos with all the fixings, it pretty much looks like someone puked on the platter.
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February 11, 2024, 01:27:22 AM

The plan is simple.

Halving + Ichimoku Conversion line crosses the base line = 17 months to a new ATH



120K ATH Sep - 2025.

Enjoy the ride.
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2025?
I think we should be at ATH before the EOY.
ETFs going into halving...what a sight!

To paraphrase the terminator:
"It (ETF) can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with.
It doesn't feel pity! Or remorse or fear and it absolutely will not stop!
... ever... until all bitcoins that need to be allocated based on a particular ETF stock purchases are bought!"
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February 11, 2024, 02:02:07 AM
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As if I need any more excuses not to get out of house...

C'mon. The only reason to get out of the house is to text people on a cellphone.

You don't want to actually interact with real humans do you? Ewww, that's gross.

You must be a boomer.

 Cheesy
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You all know this doesn't have legs right? I don't think there's been a better sell signal in all of history for anything.
Bullmarket confirmation finally confirmed  Grin
Hopefully we didn't all just jinx it with a plethora of Llama Llama quotes.
na, confirmed by math and science  ....until some gox coins flood the market
With the upcoming demand of Spot ETFs, gox will finally be history within a day or two. IMO
I would like to think that.  But many people who bought their coins under 1k$ are sitting on a 50x now and will be happily selling to Blackrock.

Does anyone know if the coins of the people who chose fiat payout have already been sold by the trustee??
Disagree.
If you got in under $1000 a Bitcoin, you are long enough in this market to know that this is a bad time to sell. In fact, if i held Bitcoin for so long a time, i would like to see a supply shock before i consider selling for $.

Overall, I agree that you, OOM, have the way better side of this argument.  Personally I have no real problem shaving off some cornz here and there around these prices, including any prices that are more than 25% above the 200-WMA, but surely we already know that BTC have a lot of historical precedence in which it has gone between 100% and 1,400% above the 200-week moving average, and right now we are merely right around 50% above the 200-WMA, we are in a point of the cycle in which the additional supply is getting cut in half, and we have way the fuck more demand than BTC that is available at these prices.. so there is ONLY so much fucking around that any of them can do in terms of keeping the BTC price down.

It is almost that we need just a 2-5X BTC price increase from here just to appease some of the ongoing demand for BTC, so sell at your own peril in these here price ranges.

Sure if the BTC price goes up another 2x to 5X from here, then surely some additional BTC is going to come onto the market, but even long time BTC HODLers don't even really necessarily need to be selling large amounts of their BTC.. maybe they can shave off 10% or 20%, but even then how much they shave off might depend on other cashflow matters that they have, and maybe if they are anticipating that BTC is not able to absorbe and continue to rise in price after another 2x to 5x from here.

Surely some folks are even more bullish to be suggesting that 10x to 20x from here is fairly easily attained, but even those guys are not suggesting that 10x to 20x from here would be sustainable in the short-term, even though many of us longer term bitcoiners realize that 10x to 20x from here is merely matching and/or double to gold's current market cap, so such prices will be easily sustainable in the future, such as later in this cycle or maybe in the next cycle... so yeah, why sell, and if you sell, why sell very much at these price or even if the BTC price might end up doing a relatively quick 2x to 5x from here within the next 3 weeks to 12 months.

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I agree with the first statement but not the second. Why would you ever consider trading back to fiat? I would rather see Bitcoin drop to 0 before trading back to fiat.

I  don't really have any problem with the idea of "trading back to fiat," especially in the sense that it is likely a matter of proportion, since hopefully none of us longer term coiners are so dumb as to be selling more than 50% of our stash, and many of us likely can fuck around selling 10% to 20% and not even get into those kinds of territories of selling large quantities of our lil precious.

I am pretty sure that even my projection of BTC prices going up to $600k, my somewhat automated system would ONLY end up selling around 7.8% of my BTC stash, and sure there are likely some things that I am not accounting for, and there also might be some extra manual override sales that I could insert into the space, especially if the BTC price were to go up really fast like 10x to 20x in a fairly short period of time... but still I don't even feel very prejudiced if I were to just stick with my fairly conservative system of selling fairly small amounts at various increments on the way up.. and why get greedy, even if a large BTC price drop (such as 50-80%-ish) may well end up following a large rise (such as something in the 10x to 20x range) in a short period of time... past performance does not really tell us what will happen, even though we likely would still consult with some of the past performance comparisons to figure out what seems reasonable and plausible versus what seems like fantasy.

I agree with the first statement but not the second. Why would you ever consider trading back to fiat? I would rather see Bitcoin drop to 0 before trading back to fiat.
buying nice things ?

I'm pretty sure many are getting back quite some life changing amount and they will consider cashing out a part for ... see above
I prefer to buy things i need over things that are nice.
For now, i'm satisfied with my current life, so no real need to change it.
At least not this early  Wink

Hahahahahaha

You need to up your "buying nice things" game, OOM... especially if we get another 10x to 20x from here.. .even if we get another 5x, might it not feel tempting to buy some nice things.. just because you can and without hardly even feeling anything - besides pure joy and gluttony?

Get with it gentlemen.   Angry Angry Angry Angry

I prefer to buy things i need over things that are nice.
For now, i'm satisfied with my current life, so no real need to change it.
At least not this early Wink
that's exactly what I'm talking about: for some it's not early anymore and they are sitting on a 50x or 100x

Yeah, but we are still in the wrong part of the cycle to be fucking around with selling.. but hey whatever, do what you like and get your 50x to 100x profits...

I am personally calculating myself around 50x but still I am not anxious to be selling at these here prices.. and yeah, I don't feel like I am in a fantasy.. but I also have a system in which I have plenty of money (meaning fiat), but at the same time, just think of already having even more money when we go from don't wake me up zone and into no man's land.. and then sales are continuing to be made an there might not be any correction, so maybe some more substantial sales could be made in the $80k to $100k arena.. but that might end up proving to be a mistake (no problem hedging though, especially in the territory of 80x to 100x profits), but still supra $100k maybe $120k to $150k might be o.k.. to shave some off.. even though that might also not be any kind of long term stopping point in the UPpity journey... .and so shaving some off on the way up.. no problem.. but that still would not justify getting excited and selling large amounts at any particular point, even if a correction might come.

and btw buying things you need is nice as well... isn't it?

Both are good.

being conservative I think at least 20% of the gox coins will flow into the market within the next 2 years... probably more

That seems like a big so what (you been following OgNasty too much?), and sorry for their loss.. .and by the way a decent quantity of the those GOX coins are not even owned by individuals, so who cares if they sell or whatever they decide to do with their coins (or if they don't recognize and appreciate the value of mostly HODLing their coins).  The coins will get absorbed by stronger hands, once (or if) they are sold.

I've been getting by on nothing for so long now, I don't feel like I need anything.  Maybe a case of Indian River Ruby Red Florida grapefruit... but that's about it.

You better step up your "buying nice things" game, Homer!!!!!!

 Angry Angry Angry Angry

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February 11, 2024, 02:39:09 AM

The plan is simple.

Halving + Ichimoku Conversion line crosses the base line = 17 months to a new ATH



120K ATH Sep - 2025.

Enjoy the ride.

If everything goes according to normal then it could be 120k in November or December 2024. but other factors trends or bad news depended on the market.
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February 11, 2024, 03:18:32 AM
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Right. Sideways. Again...

Boring AF.

Come on, Bitcoin, do something!

OK, so I gave my nephew my Trezor (after wiping it clean) as a gift for becoming a coiner. Yay! He's bringing mushrooms next weekend. He says I'll like it. Cheesy

My coins now reside on a teeny weeny piece of paper and some neurons in my brain. It feels odd, powerful, scary. I know they're there, but the inability to physically verify is affecting me. I need to buy a h/w wallet. What to buy? Maybe the Trezor Safe 3? Probably that.

Alright. Got to run. Keep posting, brothers. I sense A{Y,T}H is around the corner.

Buy when you can, sell when you must, NYKNYC (my nephew got this!), HoDL, the usual stuff.

I personally prefer the Trezor 1 and the Trezor model T over the Trezor 3.. and that is because the secure element is not open source.

I am not sure if Trezor is going to be successful in being able to launch an open source secure element.  About the Trezor 3, I think that they say that it is open source as they are able to be, but that still means that there are some parts of it that are not open source... so I still question the soundness of non-open source wallets, even though there are claims that it is good to have a secure element.

My coins now reside on a teeny weeny piece of paper and some neurons in my brain. It feels odd, powerful, scary. I know they're there, but the inability to physically verify is affecting me. I need to buy a h/w wallet. What to buy? Maybe the Trezor Safe 3? Probably that.
BitBox is quite nice, if you peep it.
Will check it out, thx. I've grown fond of the Trezors over the years (the Model One was probably the only one in existence at the time), but I see now there are so many to choose. Got to be standardized, so I can recover my seed, etc., and open-source for obvious reasons.

Since we are having a public conversation, I suppose that it does not hurt to repeat these websites to review various wallet possibilties.

https://www.athena-alpha.com/crypto-wallets/

https://www.athena-alpha.com/crypto-wallets/rating-methodology/

https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets

Just noticed we hit 33000 pages.

Wow. Remember what a big deal it was to reach 1000 pages?
Or the "when page parity?" posts some years ago...

We've now ascended to the "when post parity?" level. Cool
or we have reached a new bottom with this 33k Grin Cool

Even the 200-WMA is going to be moving above the page count.. probably around May or June.  Lovely.

Just noticed we hit 33000 pages.

Wow. Remember what a big deal it was to reach 1000 pages?
Or the "when page parity?" posts some years ago...

We've now ascended to the "when post parity?" level. Cool
or we have reached a new bottom with this 33k Grin Cool
I had the same thought yesterday... BTC bottom is not the 200wma anymore but might rather be the WO page count...
let's keep the posts comin' boys...

Just as a reminder, the 200-WMA is way more exponential as compared with the page count..

Absent some kind of fatal flaw in bitcoin, we have almost no way to be able to keep page count up with the 200-WMA.. and the same is true with BTC spot price... .and people (not even bitcoiners) really understand and cannot really comprehend very well exponentials.

llama llama.
"alpaca" may be the cooler animal and i remember the alpaca socks thing. but. "llama llama" sounds cooler. its even fun to type.

Donkey breath is even cooler.

#justsaying

But to each his own.
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