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Whoaza!!!!!

Who be dat?



It's-a MEEEE  cAPSLOCKIO!  Here to pull the veil back on the flavor of crazy I have been cultivating for a while now.  Don't worry I will not stick around muttering to myself and junking up the place...  But indulge me for a moment.

"I've suffered a great many catastrophes in my life. Most of them never happened" -Mark Twain

"May you be able to see the future, but also be powerless to stop it" - some fictional Chinese asshole curse?

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The only way to continue to delay the imminent financial collapse of the faulty world economic system and for the powers that be to remain in power, or at least take as much off the table before the floor caves in is WAR.

War, War and more War.

Crazy thing is for the longest time the majority of folks in the west at least have no idea that a war is not STARTING, but has been underway for quite some time now.  We keep waiting for things like "missile strikes" which are coming... for sure.  Do not doubt that.

But consider what WAR would look like with a worldwide information system that is controlled by the people waging these wars.  Consider what war might look like when biological and chemical warfare is not dropped from planes, but fed to the populations of nations who gobble it all up willingly.

The mask has been off for those in power for some time.  Neocons like Lindsay Graham and his delight over killing an entire generation of Ukranians so he and his friends can divide up the resources that country sits on.  And uber wealthy socialist rubes like John Kerry who just openly stated that the First Amendment has made "governing" very difficult since he can no longer control the sources of where people get information, and there is no way to stop the "misinformation and disinformation".  A concept that so many sleeping people are lapping up like pablum.

Put the right flags in your yard.  Be on the side of the right people.  Hate the right people.  As long as you pick a side they do not care which you pick... I mean they have a preference, but as long as you hate the certain groups (often in the name of battling against "hate") then they can control you.

These people print money.  LOAN (God, the hubris) it to poor countries that can never pay it back also demanding that that loan be turned RIGHT around and fed straight back into the western military war machine with all the powerful people greasing their palms along the way, and openly insider trading markets, buying mansions and mansions.  Some of them will likely be assassinated before they get to enjoy the spoils of their deception.  Looking at you Volodymyr.  Maybe you should have stuck with the smaller comedy and acting career you had when you played pianos with your dick instead of upgrading your role to the world stage.  But sweet Miss Lindsay is glad you chose to join them!!! You will most certainly be rewarded! ... ...  I imagine you are fairly afraid at this point... I don't blame you.  Best wishes, and good luck!!

It's kind of obvious to me that one recent play is to set up the narrative that Iran is trying to kill Donald Trump.  Two birds... one stone.  Get rid of an inconvenient politician (who is either truly out of sync with the powers that be, or is playing a fantastic role for them... hard to say, honestly) as well as justify a full scale attack on Iran so we can kill their children and take their resources.  Iran has exactly NO REASON to assassinate Donald Trump.  Lol.  But the "news" will shout this out into the ether with all it's might until enough sleeping people believe, put the new signs in their yards and help the fight against "misinformation" as the useful idiots they are.

And maybe... maybe the next MK-Ultra'd sad sack having been groomed by the CIA will actually be able to make the kill shot.  And the criminals and devils running all this will get what they want again.  And we can start building planes, and missiles, and jobs and interesting new chemicals, and stimulate our economies once again!  Let's all eat bowls and bowls of sugar fried in seed oils!!! HOORAY!  We are winning again!

Though... there are other ways it could play out.  The west may already be defeated and dying.  Mostly hoisted upon it's own petard. Hard not to say good riddance if so.  With an entire generation of children who are questioning whether they even want to TRY to work, and build a life since they are smart enough to see that it is no longer possible.  They will never be able to afford a house.  They cannot even afford rent for a shitty apartment.  They are smart enough to see that... but most are not quite able to see that they are being teed up to be tapped right into the endless hole of surveillance, control, and oppression all in the name of community and fairness.  If they promise to air drop me some of that sweet sweet CBDC "money" then I am all in.  And I am glad if they take it from those other people... those rich people, no no not the ones in control... they can keep theirs, but those ugly ones... those ones who we do not just believe, but we KNOW do not deserve what they have.  Any other opinion is disinformation!  Right?  Right!  All the videos coming out of my phone have convinced me.  This is the most rational and fair path.

Straight to hell.  No hand basket even needed anymore... just download the app.

But this is all also quite tragic.  Sad that one of the greatest tries at equality and freedom will have failed.  Lost mostly because of it's own pride and hubris.

I will watch from over here, becoming a bitter old man, until all the shit I stupidly chose to put in my body all my life finally sets the cancer off.

Oh!  And GO BITCOIN!  I mean maybe... freedom tech can...  Oh never mind... we're fucked.

P.S.  If you read this and think I am crazy you are right.  But if you read it and put me in some polarized box thinking I have some common political position then you are still sleeping in my arrogant opinion.


Yeah I pretty much agree with this, but

we do have a bit of hope. 

Here goes once we invented the nukes and blew them up ⬆️ advanced kindly aliens 👾 noticed Earth and set the 1945-2024 mess in motion a few more year of the garbage 🗑️ we are being fed will allow the vast majority of people to simply let the kindly superior aliens 👽 guide us to a better way of life.

1950s movie  “the day the earth stood still” remade by Kenau Reeves comes to mind.


on the other hand my kids died so it is just me and the wife. I have lived to 67 and been with her for 39 years. If it all falls apart in under 10 years at least My kids won’t be fucked and I will have had a long good marriage as the world dies.
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picture chartbuddy suddenly deciding to display the chart in every person on earths eyeballs via lazer drones or some such and it commandeers the entire planets resources to make it happen.  much as i like chartbuddy im unsure if i like it

Dude.... .

I'll take some of that stuff that you are smoking.



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you have no idea haha

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picture chartbuddy suddenly deciding to display the chart in every person on earths eyeballs via lazer drones or some such and it commandeers the entire planets resources to make it happen.  much as i like chartbuddy im unsure if i like it

Dude.... .

I'll take some of that stuff that you are smoking.



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you have no idea haha

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 Well said!  This is the first time I've given a standing ovation for a forum post.

Thank you.  I am glad it resonated.



Yeah I pretty much agree with this, but

we do have a bit of hope. 

Here goes once we invented the nukes and blew them up ⬆️ advanced kindly aliens  noticed Earth and set the 1945-2024 mess in motion a few more year of the garbage ️ we are being fed will allow the vast majority of people to simply let the kindly superior aliens  guide us to a better way of life.

1950s movie  “the day the earth stood still” remade by Kenau Reeves comes to mind.


on the other hand my kids died so it is just me and the wife. I have lived to 67 and been with her for 39 years. If it all falls apart in under 10 years at least My kids won’t be fucked and I will have had a long good marriage as the world dies.

First of all, I am sorry with all my heart to hear about your children.

And I agree.  There really is hope.  Hope that as we see the great change (I mean it really is going to be a reset...) include pockets of people who opt out and wake up.  And freedom tech built on top of the privacy offered by cryptography is one of our most powerful tools.  I always respected the cypherpunks.  And I could see a little of what they saw back then... but I had no idea how right they would end up.  I sort of wonder if they even did.  My post is dire, but i do believe we will see the forces of good make their own way in the world.  What we will have to see before a big difference is made?  In that regard I am somewhat afraid.

Kindly Aliens?  A few years back I would think that is crazy talk...  heh. 

Oh one other mini rant... AI.  lol.  The things people are afraid of.  Many crazy theories.  What it will do in a nutshell:  at least at first it will absolutely cement the reality that anything we see online, or just about anywhere aside from the ground we stand on is no better than a 50/50 chance of being totally fake.  We are already seeing zillions of real things being called fake and fake things being called real.  Now we basically cannot know.  lol.  There's the risk.

And one bonus thought.  If this is the AI "they" (aliens?  powers that be?  dunno Smiley ) are allowing to come out into the public now... how long did they have it before?  And what were they doing with it?  And what kind do they have now?
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In light of the Fed cut 50 bps, I'm 'speculating' in this WO thread...

...a hot war in the Middle East by March-April 2025. Possibly kicked off as early as February. After the US president is decided.

They will need a "reason" to crash markets (and thus slam rates back to zero).

I guess we'll see.

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TPTB think years ahead and play 5D chess, while the plebs are still playing checkers...

No one ever connects the dots...

Cratering U.S. (and world) economies... (thus oversupply of oil = falling oil/gas consumption, oversupply of goods = less consumption, falling prices)

No no no, TPTB can't have that. Nope, simply won't stand for it. Because muh profit$.

So... queue up the:

1. Mass East Coast port strike, and also

2. War in the Middle East (missle strike)

All right on the same day, and the exact first day of October. Almost as if it were planned and coordinated. Hmmm....anyway

Artificial supply chain constraints + diverted oil/gas to the Middle East war = less goods/ higher goods prices, less gas / higher gas prices

Just in time for the holiday season (goods consumption), plus going into the winter season (oil and natural gas consumption).

Win win for TPTB, lose lose for the plebs

And oh yeah, just had a major U.S. hurricane wreak billions $$$ in destruction and damages across multiple states, but fk those people and their rebuilding efforts ( b/c supply chain "constraints" bitches)
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Iran has launched hundreds of rockets, ballistic missiles and drones at Israel with terrorists in Tel-Aviv shooting civilians dead.

Israel will retaliate.

A full scale war will possible nullify Uptober festivities. Cry
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October 01, 2024, 05:42:14 PM

Iran has launched hundreds of rockets, ballistic missiles and drones at Israel with terrorists in Tel-Aviv shooting civilians dead.

Israel will retaliate.

A full scale war will possible nullify Uptober festivities. Cry


So uptober has been placed on Hold?  Lips sealed


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Iran has launched hundreds of rockets, ballistic missiles and drones at Israel with terrorists in Tel-Aviv shooting civilians dead.

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I guess we will soon be under 60k again...
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I guess we will soon be under 60k again...
At least we still gat each other to sing
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I guess we will soon be under 60k again...
At least we still gat each other to sing
"Everything gonna Be Okay"

Who cares even if we do dip below $60K again?  That's just more dollar cost averaging coins to be scooped up by the faithful before we blast off.  It's clear we've gotten over the hurdles of mtgox and most of the government selling.  It's clear governments have started printing money again globally.  I even think it is clear that demand is outstripping new supply greatly while cash is quickly heading to the market for new buys.  I feel pretty good about the statement that we will be at least 10% higher a month from now.  10% in a month to normal people would be a big number to promise on an investment.
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October 01, 2024, 08:02:38 PM

The middle east is once again, chimping out, killing the pumperino. Sub 65K is so September 2024.
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Whoaza!!!!!

Who be dat?

...[edited out]............
Straight to hell.  No hand basket even needed anymore... just download the app.

But this is all also quite tragic.  Sad that one of the greatest tries at equality and freedom will have failed.  Lost mostly because of it's own pride and hubris.

I will watch from over here, becoming a bitter old man, until all the shit I stupidly chose to put in my body all my life finally sets the cancer off.

Oh!  And GO BITCOIN!  I mean maybe... freedom tech can...  Oh never mind... we're fucked.

P.S.  If you read this and think I am crazy you are right.  But if you read it and put me in some polarized box thinking I have some common political position then you are still sleeping in my arrogant opinion.

Sorry to hear about your health, and surely we all get old and sometimes we are no longer able to figure out our place in the battle - including sometimes questioning whether any of our efforts are making any meaningful difference.  I would like to consider that bitcoin and perhaps even some of the rebelliousness of some men will still have some place in regards to bringing meaning to life and some areas of genuine joy and happiness. 

Each of us ONLY have so much energy, and surely if our health starts to deteriorate then our energy does too.. .. so I am not totally opposed to any expressed frustration in regards to potentially finding some meaningful courses of action.. especially when each as we get older we might not be able to make too many more changes.. and yeah, some of the basics in life might be as much as we are actually able to carry out.
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