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. Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.

It's as interesting as good to know now that almost all WO members have a full working brain.
In contrast to yours, as you just publicy admitted.

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. Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.

It's as interesting as good to know now that almost all WO members have a full working brain.
In contrast to yours, as you just publicy admitted.

I mean, he’s not wrong. Nothing lasts forever. Our planet will be engulfed by a ball of fire someday. Does that mean we shouldn’t live tomorrow because in 2 billion years our oceans will boil? No. Bitcoin might not last forever, but I know it’s the best form of money we have today, and that’s good enough for me for right now.
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. Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.

It's as interesting as good to know now that almost all WO members have a full working brain.
In contrast to yours, as you just publicy admitted.

I mean, he’s not wrong. Nothing lasts forever. Our planet will be engulfed by a ball of fire someday. Does that mean we shouldn’t live tomorrow because in 2 billion years our oceans will boil? No. Bitcoin might not last forever, but I know it’s the best form of money we have today, and that’s good enough for me for right now.

Quote from: Bryan Adams
Nothing can last forever, forever.... No!
EDIT: Oh fuck, that Bryan Adams earworm will own me now for hours again...  Roll Eyes

You're right there. And he is too. But the timeframe we both (you and me) have in mind is waaay bigger than the one of the half-working-brain dude. And as long as there is intermediate money you can get in/out of BTC, wealth can be shifted to other assets. So there will be successors to Bitcoin. It's only one of the many forms wealth can take. At least the current outlook is that BTC will outlive us all, which is good enough for me, honestly. Everything that happens past my life is the part of history i'm not interested in.
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It does look like so
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Countdown is running

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I agree with u nothing last forever true ,so while we are alive  Bitcoin will continue to grow with the fact that in the next few years more and more persons will be exposed to Bitcoin so while Bitcoin might not last forever it won't change how useful it is right now . Grin

I just found a 24 min. comedy mockumentary masterpiece starring John McAfee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnKrMKo_WlU

I wasn't laughing my ass off that hard in a while  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Spoiler alert: He's somewhat pissed.
What would he say today, actually?  Tongue
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Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.
Yeah true.. atleast  it's "half "
How long do you have to preach this  Undecided
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A great collectible especially with having just 250 supply
But the Track Record of Trump associated product especially NFTs is Hmmmm.


Does no one else see this as a possible scam?  I have not look into it much... if it is real I would ALMOST want one because WTFN?  But I assume it is a scam.
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. Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.

It's as interesting as good to know now that almost all WO members have a full working brain.
In contrast to yours, as you just publicy admitted.



I imagine my list of these is VERY VERY short...

But here he is.

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I agree with u nothing last forever true ,so while we are alive  Bitcoin will continue to grow with the fact that in the next few years more and more persons will be exposed to Bitcoin so while Bitcoin might not last forever it won't change how useful it is right now . Grin

I just found a 24 min. comedy mockumentary masterpiece starring John McAfee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnKrMKo_WlU

I wasn't laughing my ass off that hard in a while  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Spoiler alert: He's somewhat pissed.
What would he say today, actually?  Tongue


I am sad (if) he's gone.
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Also!! Why are nearly NONE of you on NOSTR yet?  I would send you sats!



And by SATS... I mean like 5 of them because I am cheap af.  But come anyway!  If you need help ping me.

Tips:

First of all... what is it?  Well those of you old enough to remember it's basically the rebirth of IRC.  That said, it is more really.

It is a decentralized protocol for "social media".  And the first clients are very "twitter" like.  But image and video clients are being developed to rival TikTok, Instaghram etc.  AND there are emerging services for long form posting (think Medium) as well as chat groups like Telegram.

So what client to start with?  Well there are MANY good ones.

Easy... but also the most mainstream.  Sort of the "iPhone" of NOSTR clients.  VERY easy to onboard with...  But also has KYC for the lightning wallet features?  (WTF?!??! HELL NO).  Still if you want your non techy grandma on Nostr (I mean bring her!!!)  Then this might be the ticket.  It's also the ticket for a LOT of people not a crumudgeonly as me.

https://primal.net/home

iPhone
OK so I said iPhone up there too... but this is the leading client for that platform... and likely one of the most well developed ones.  I don;t like it.  But you do you!

https://damus.io/

Android
I like Amethyst.  This is my daily driver.  Very tweaky.
https://nostr.how/en/guides/amethyst

Web/Android/Iphone
Yakihonne.
Weird name interesting client.  Very nice.
https://yakihonne.com/

And there are LOTS of other non twitter looking implementations and software in the works... Music... videos... podcasting... and on and on..

It's not going away.



FINALLY.  I know you are not going to come to listen to me blather... but...

https://yakihonne.com/users/npub13mg4p79p8r47ura000v9npr67z4uj7n5lpwx6zqanh3aevcsshyslv2xfz



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Not shitcoin opportunities (at least they don't look like this to me), but I am getting a bit impatient to have ANYTHING viable as a 2nd layer (financial) on bitcoin.
I am still at a loss as to why nobody build anything major so far after all that talk about layering architecture (potentially).

Yeah, there are Stacks, but almost nobody seems interested despite consistent promotion of it coming from WS.
There is also others (not to be named here), with progressively inane designs where you supposedly risk your pristine bitcoin and receive "yield" not even in bitcoin, but in a lame s-tcoin.

I am not going to claim to know how to identify the difference between some project that might be good or not so good, and surely since I have already been for years accepting of a framework that building on or related to bitcoin is best, yet maybe there are competing pulls of potential developers who are working on shitcoin variations, instead of pegging their project to bitcoin. So I am not sure if potential developers have been lured into shitcoins based on their own personal monetization concerns, and surely we have been hearing that it is harder to build on bitcoin as compared with building on bitcoin, so I would not know even if there might be ways that some shitcoins might end up getting pegged to bitcoin as second layers, and I know that there have been proposals and suggestions in regards to various ways that shitcoins could get pegged to bitcoin, yet understandably those kinds of proposals have not been gaining too much traction.

Another dynamic is surely a lot of various shit projects (referring to ordinals, inscriptions, runes) had been being built on bitcoin in the last couple of years and really raising bitcoin fees a lot (or at least causing a decent amount of fee unpredictability), yet in recent times the bitcoin transaction fees have been greatly coming down, and surely an additional explanation for bitcoin transaction fees coming down seems to relate to so many large players sucking up BTC supply and then not further transacting (or moving around their coins), so then the number of on chain transactions (and fees) seem to have been coming down a lot - and surely who knows if that is the death of bitcoin, since bitcoin needs onchain fees and transactions in the future, even though currently the block rewards subsidy can still incentivize miners to continue to pump out blocks every 10 minutes.

We can see transaction fees from the last year.. coming down quite a lot...

For sure I would not deny any characterization that bitcoin's value proposition requires on chain transactions, so I would not really know if any attack might be happening or if we are merely in  some temporary phase, and surely there are ways that governments have been disincentivizing peer to peer transaction (taxes, attempts to capture transaction data, and attempts to discourage and/or vilify self-custody), and they have been pursuing developers and businesses that facilitate privacy and various non-KYC modes of transacting, so surely bitcoin's power and value comes from abilities to directly transact, so surely there could be some understanding of the peer to peer transacting kinds of mechanisms, yet even the shutting down of services like local bitcoins seems to contributing to the stifling of peer to peer transactions when folks might also feel challenges to get in touch with each other, even though surely peer to peer circular economies could grow in some communities, but it might be difficult to achieve, even merchants might get scared about how to report  transactions, too...oh and by the way there can be various governmental announcements about various rights of self-custody and things like that, but if there are ongoing stifling of some of the development or abilities of normies to engage in direct peer to peer transaction, then some of the talk is conflicting, since some governments are maybe remaining hostile to bitcoin being transacted directly between folks and without any KYC.


[quoting twitter.. shouldn't be so difficult to put quotes...] 

".....But if you do sell some Sats, just make sure you're comfortable with never seeing them again".......

https://x.com/stackhodler/status/1884909646030483813?t=CPLMDVAcRYqkrkNxLHZzxQ&s=19

That has been my point for years, which includes nobody should be selling any bitcoin with expectations to buy back cheaper, which largely means that you have to reach a status of overaccumulation first.

If you cannot figure out whether you have over-accumulated bitcoin or not, then you probably have not reached such status.  There are a lot of guys who sell thinking that they can buy back cheaper and/or fail/refuse to appreciate that they have not yet even gotten close to a state of overaccumulation, yet they still sell decent portions of their BTC stash.

By the way, on a related note, I find it difficult to believe that we are not going to end up having another blow off top, because each run seems to advance into states of overexuberance, and why would this time be any different?   I still don't believe in selling with an expectation of buying back lower.. but sure people are going to end up doing  it.

Maybe someone else might want to weigh in on whether or not it is bullish for the President of the United States to be selling Bitcoin watches. While this is just another money making venture put on by his crypto team that he probably isn’t even aware of, it sure seems like a good sign for those of us who have been stacking coins.

I want one where can I get it.
https://gettrumpwatches.com/products/trump-crypto-president-jewel-47?_pos=8&_sid=a1b730e06&_ss=r
There you go. You might want to look around the site a bit. There is plenty of options to choose from, including a much cheaper option that doesn’t have the “stones” in it. I personally am not interested in gold plated jewelry, but I’m sure this will end up being quite a popular Bitcoin collectible in the future.
wow the interesting part is the fact that there are cheaper options this will make it easier to sell
Hmmm... I've been wary of pre-orders ever since Butterfly labs screwed so many over taking 10's of millions of dollars in pre-orders and not being able to deliver in a timely manner until finally being taken down by the FTC.  That being said, the cheapest watch is already sold out while the next tier version:
12 Diamonds, up to 60 Stones & 18K Gold Plating
Trump Crypto President Jewel 47
250 NUMBERED & LIMITED
Regular price$1,199 USD

shows just 37 remaining.  What I find a little disturbing is that at the top of the description is says 250 numbered & limited while later in the description is states:

- Limited Edition: Only 500 Available. Once they’re sold out, they’re gone. So don’t miss your opportunity to grab yours.

 Might just be a copy/paste error but it makes a difference if you're buying for its potential future value as a collectible.

Perhaps stating the obvious, what I find a little disturbing is that a US president engages in such ongoing and incessant peddling behaviors.. .. yet of course, a lot of folks are likely bothered by his persistent gawdiness, which is part of the reason he was elected, since he is notoriously and ongoingly outrageous...Of course, proceeds are going to a good cause..  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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