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October 16, 2025, 04:48:35 PM
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I had some lady at a gas station tell me she was visiting from Dubia and wanted me to buy her gold for cash for gas and I told her I don't carry around a acid test kit.

If not a joke, it is hilarious.
Plenty of videos of a dude trying to sell or value a gold bar on the street:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1D4UQ7k8-dE
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October 16, 2025, 04:48:58 PM

Hey Bitcoin, here's the deal: I need a new car.  ~ I want to make a deal with Bitcoin, because I don't want to sell too much. So Bitcoin must go up, that's the only solution Smiley
I got it, I'll have to cycle again. No new t-shirts either, but luckily I got my socks!
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October 16, 2025, 04:59:19 PM
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Rumor has it that Joe Rogan filmed an episode with Michael Saylor yesterday. At this point I think we’re hoping the normies will jump into Bitcoin and push us to another top we can all dump… Not sure that is the best plan, but with Elon tweeting about it and now Rogan doing an episode, the signs of a cycle top are starting to pile up.
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October 16, 2025, 05:05:36 PM
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We’re below the December 2024 monthly high.

Bear market begins.

Sorry but this has been an utterly pathetic bull market.
I don't think we are yet in the bear market even though it looks like market structure have been broken to the downside. It could be a mere sweep of liquidity to the downside for the big boys to enter at lower prices.

Let us see what will happen from now to the first week of November.
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October 16, 2025, 05:12:16 PM
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Naaah my boy doesn’t panic sell
Just secure the FIAT to provide life for if a top is or might be in….

What’s logic, selling 300$ coins at 100k + to sustain some year of living life as one is used to….
It’s a good sell imo…
Better as being forced to sell under 100k

Imho if an OG comes in a spot forcing to sell under 100k then he have done wrong something.

I thank you for the Whatsapp conversation last week though brother, when you helped make my mind up for me to sell some @ 121k.

That’s looking like a good move now tbh.

My small family is grateful for the advice Cheesy


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...sorry, had to delete a post (to post it a bit later) as looking at the prior was making me dizzy, lol
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October 16, 2025, 05:46:36 PM

...sorry, had to delete a post (to post it a bit later) as looking at the prior was making me dizzy, lol


Put it in now
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October 16, 2025, 05:47:45 PM
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sure...

To reverse a current meme:

"Everyone deserves a price they sell their bitcoin for fiat or anything else."

I pass no judgement on anybody's decision call re selling.

Just one thought: it's difficult  (but not impossible) to get the sold portion back due to bitcoin's nature as a finite (in numbers) asset.

Personally, apart from the immediate replacement of say, costs of the miner, I was never able to replace a significant portion of my prior btc sells.
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...sorry, had to delete a post (to post it a bit later) as looking at the prior was making me dizzy, lol


Put it in now

That's what she said
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October 16, 2025, 06:07:02 PM
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I had some lady at a gas station tell me she was visiting from Dubia and wanted me to buy her gold for cash for gas and I told her I don't carry around a acid test kit.

If not a joke, it is hilarious.
Plenty of videos of a dude trying to sell or value a gold bar on the street:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1D4UQ7k8-dE

This is the absolute truth.
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October 16, 2025, 06:11:40 PM
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More and more negativity in the press. For some reason, I think FUD season is good.
This is normal and they are often sponsored by people who wants to achieve an economic target. I don't think we have to fret about it since we should have been accustomed to what is happening now. 

Rumor has it that Joe Rogan filmed an episode with Michael Saylor yesterday. At this point I think we’re hoping the normies will jump into Bitcoin and push us to another top we can all dump… Not sure that is the best plan, but with Elon tweeting about it and now Rogan doing an episode, the signs of a cycle top are starting to pile up.
If all of you dump, that will be a golden opportunity for little fries and late comers like me to buy lower and achieve my target in less than a decade from now...
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October 16, 2025, 06:14:20 PM

Everyone is claiming that the market has gone down. But I don't think so. Because $124k is the highest ATH, the current $108k is not a big drop. If we touch 90k, we will understand that the market is going down.

Say something inspiring.
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October 16, 2025, 06:24:35 PM

Leveraged n00bs getting wiped out and to test who deserves the next pump.

This has become a regular game in the market, which is kind of pissing me off a bit, but i can't do anything about it, so i try not to get caught in rants about it.
But i also feel people getting upset or even desperate with the current situation.
2021 was just a test. 2025 seems to be a bit moar critical, maybe it will become even more challenging in the future.
So far we survived forks, the block war exchanges collapsing and politcal disturbances.
If the saying is true, it should be applicable to BTC as well:

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger  Smiley
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I had some lady at a gas station tell me she was visiting from Dubia and wanted me to buy her gold for cash for gas and I told her I don't carry around a acid test kit.
There are fake golds in circulation, but I’ve never heard of anyone getting fake BTC in their wallet Smiley.. unless it never arrived in their wallet .

There are scams everywhere, including in bitcoin, yet bitcoin still is superior to gold in almost all ways related to money and one of the ONLY exceptions is that gold has a longer history, so therefore some embedded acceptance and network effects that will likely take a decent amount of time to change perceptions and to transfer network effects over to bitcoin, that are still building on bitcoin and slowly getting eaten into in gold (referring to seven bitcoin network effects outlined by Trace Mayer). 

There are aspect of gold that people consider to be benefits, when they are likely costs, and that relates to gold's physicality.. .Its physicality is likely more of a cost than a benefit when it comes to monetary characteristics, even though overall perception is that physicality is an advantage for gold, even though hardly anyone is carrying around gold and/or transacting in physical gold, which can be fairly easily achieved with bitcoin. Can you imagine transacting $10s of thousands (or even $100s of thousands or $millions or billions) in gold versus in bitcoin.  Many folks do not realize the grandness of such differences and the fact that non-physicality has advantages over physicality.. and verifiability is costly for gold too.... even though there still could be ways that guys can get tricked into believing that they are receiving bitcoin when they receive something else, such as bitcoin cash.. Bcash. or some other variant that is not bitcoin.. or bugs in third-party software including not actually holding their keys but instead transacting through third party verification systems that also have control over the bitcoin, when there are ways in bitcoin to self-custody and to self-verify.

Let me put it too you simply Jay. If Bitcoin does not outperform gold until we are many times bigger than it, Bitcoin is a niche sideshow and will not be the basis of any new monetary system. I consider this a loss to humanity and a win for authoritarians who can use fiat and gold to detriment of the commoners. This is my opinion, you can whine on about anything you want.
Fair point.

There is nothing even wrong with Gold's pump, relative to bitcoin, since you are correct, bitcoin was catching up to gold too fast... so it is good that the shiny paperized rock has been able to show some life in recent times. Doesn't hurt bitcoin's investment thesis, at all - at least not according to this here cat.
I think gold is tending to outperform Bitcoin currently in the 2025 analysis but how ever gold and Bitcoin have in a competitive market.
Despite the fact that they are serving their users different purposes but still they have a way of price analysis that tend to compete against each other.

I don't understand how you could conclude that gold and bitcoin are serving their users different purposes, since both of them are likely hedges against the dollar and/or debt systems and the various ways that the dollar is being debased through the use of debt that governments (and even status quo rich and/or financial institutions) try to obscure and to proclaim (or act) like such debasement is not happening.

Investors While investing in any investment they tend to utilize there performances as a basis for investing at a particular point in time

There is some validity in watching trends and trying to take advantage of some assets that might be appreciating in value (price) faster than other assets... even though, sure, some of the short term trends could be misleading, even though the market has some credibility since it is a product of a variety of participating entities and not controlled by any one entity, even though the market can be manipulated in short term ways and even longer term ways and causing distortions that can take a while to play out.

The fact that gold has a very steady and fixated performance has made it attract investors and on the other hand  Bitcoin price moving upwards consistently had attracted investors looking for profit on investment

I doubt that we are ONLY looking at short-term or even medium term perceptions of gold versus bitcoin in order to make our assessments in regards to how to allocate our time, energy and value.

One of the incredible aspects of bitcoin since its beginning is that it has been taking a long time for the market and even the people to learn about bitcoin and to appreciate its value, which continues to be the case today, even though we have signs of increasing awareness and adoption of bitcoin, yet bitcoin still remains in quite early days with a lot of folks hardly knowing shit about it, even folks who are involved in bitcoin might not really understand bitcoin beyond its number go up technology, and if number is not going up, then they become dissuaded in their bullishness of it.

Those of us who are either just getting involved in bitcoin and who are either building our bitcoin holdings and/or maintaining whatever bitcoin holdings that we have, we are quite advantaged over those who are not engaged in such prioritizations of bitcoin, especially since bitcoin still continues to serve as the vehicle for the largest wealth transfer in mankind, yet if you are better off directly holding bitcoin if you want to benefit from such transfer from the no coiners to the coiners.. even though the process can also be painful, since in short to medium term timeframes, such transfer of wealth does not seem to be happening in any kind of clear and unambiguous way and there seem to be various battles going on within such ongoing wealth transfer process. 

More and more negativity in the press. For some reason, I think FUD season is good.

I suppose it ongoingly shakes out various weak hands, even the older bitcoiners who likely neither deserve their coins nor do they know why they are holding bitcoin... and so there are likely plenty of folks who can be shook into thinking that the top is already in since they are so set in a time frame that bitcoin has to pump in the last quarter of this particular year, as if there were to be something magical about bitcoin being within a particular schedule... so perhaps the direction of greatest pain is down, even though I was thinking that the direction of greatest pain would be UP, yet both can happen with down before up.. and sure the UP does not even need to happen.. yet at the same time, there will be a certain amount of additional pain if the up comes much later than anticipated by those who are too busy studying fractals rather than appreciating the asset that they hold.
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after bitcoin moved following trump's election, and after seeing over 100,000 and then falling back to nearly 70,000, if i said that bitcoin would hover around $110,000 on a random october day, it would seem like very good news.

perspective is everything. when making long-term plans, don't let a few panic-mongers fool you with the drop over the last two weeks. hold on to every satoshi.
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Let me put it too you simply Jay. If Bitcoin does not outperform gold until we are many times bigger than it, Bitcoin is a niche sideshow and will not be the basis of any new monetary system. I consider this a loss to humanity and a win for authoritarians who can use fiat and gold to detriment of the commoners. This is my opinion, you can whine on about anything you want.
Did you see how banks are buying gold? Also gold has been like that since many centuries ago. Bitcoin will follow, that is all that we need, for bitcoin not to remain stagnant or be like fiat that are inflationary. All I care more about is that bitcoin will get to 7 figures. It may take a longer time but we are going to achieve that.
Banks are still buying gold because banks are more dependent on these precious metals than virtual coins, but I do not see Bitcoin and gold as competitors to each other. In this current digital age, people use virtual gold more than physical gold and that virtual gold is Bitcoin. Through Bitcoin, we can make any transaction from one end of the world to the other in an instant, but it is really a great innovation in keeping with the current times.

Big companies like MicroStrategy are buying Bitcoin with huge amounts of money, and countries like El Salvador have adopted Bitcoin nationally, not just this country or this big company, we know about many other big investors in buying Bitcoin. The fact that all these investors are still investing in Bitcoin means that they are relying on Bitcoin even during this high price of gold.

Currently, the price of a Bitcoin is in 6 digits, but it is not impossible for the price of Bitcoin to reach 7 digits, it is only a matter of time.
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More and more negativity in the press. For some reason, I think FUD season is good.

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