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We never really stood a chance with Trump in charge did we, this year. His bipolar, autistic outbursts and rage posting online have stopped us being able to sustain a proper bull market. I don’t want to see anybody telling me ‘we went from 15k to 126k’ because the only reason we went to 15k is because Bitcoin performs terribly in bear markets. I prefer to measure cycle top to cycle top, so $1300 in 2013 to $19,000 in 2017 to $69,000 in 2021 to $126,000 in 2025. So as we can see, vastly diminishing returns. I guess the real test is what the bottom of the next bear market will. We have to assume it won’t be so bad as previous times so maybe ‘only’ a 50% haircut from $126,000. It is what it is, I’m very lucky I got in early. The huge gains we used to get have retired me and I am so thankful to Satoshi and the entire Bitcoin community. Not even 2x from 2021 cycle top is a warning sign though maybe. For clarity, I think the top is in and this cycle is definitely over. Tempted to take JJG bet that we won’t see a new ATH before the end of Q1 2026, seems like free money. We won’t see a new ATH for a couple of years at least in my opinion, maybe even 2029. I think we hit over $160,000 in 2029 though. Market maker trolling us with a soul crushing beartrap.
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BobLawblaw
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October 17, 2025, 09:54:56 AM |
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ChartBuddy
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somac.
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October 17, 2025, 10:09:09 AM Last edit: October 17, 2025, 10:36:49 AM by somac. |
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We never really stood a chance with Trump in charge did we, this year. His bipolar, autistic outbursts and rage posting online have stopped us being able to sustain a proper bull market. I don’t want to see anybody telling me ‘we went from 15k to 126k’ because the only reason we went to 15k is because Bitcoin performs terribly in bear markets. I prefer to measure cycle top to cycle top, so $1300 in 2013 to $19,000 in 2017 to $69,000 in 2021 to $126,000 in 2025. So as we can see, vastly diminishing returns. I guess the real test is what the bottom of the next bear market will. We have to assume it won’t be so bad as previous times so maybe ‘only’ a 50% haircut from $126,000. It is what it is, I’m very lucky I got in early. The huge gains we used to get have retired me and I am so thankful to Satoshi and the entire Bitcoin community. Not even 2x from 2021 cycle top is a warning sign though maybe. For clarity, I think the top is in and this cycle is definitely over. Tempted to take JJG bet that we won’t see a new ATH before the end of Q1 2026, seems like free money. We won’t see a new ATH for a couple of years at least in my opinion, maybe even 2029. I think we hit over $160,000 in 2029 though. Market maker trolling us with a soul crushing beartrap. Probably. Because with the amount of printing coming up I just don't see a bear market for some time, in any asset. USD is not an asset.
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LFC_Bitcoin
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So much winning…..  Hope you and Rick are good and the ranch is coming on well.
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October 17, 2025, 11:08:32 AM |
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"NO PAIN, NO GAIN" No matter what, trust the process (Bitcoin), imbibe consistency.
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October 17, 2025, 11:35:51 AM |
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Seasoned investors may now take sides with wall street and have your say. For wall street is a very good street. for me to poop on.
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October 17, 2025, 12:00:31 PM |
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It literaly screams for an aggressive BTC rebound. Agree! In November and December there will likely be a healthy rejuvenation. Crazy how so many OGs whine like a 13 year old girl about the volatility.
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philipma1957
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October 17, 2025, 12:23:46 PM |
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here is hoping some dip was purchased today.
I got some.
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bitmover
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October 17, 2025, 12:37:23 PM |
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It literaly screams for an aggressive BTC rebound. x.By this chart... BTC could easily reach 180k if it bounces back to the the equivalent M2!!
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October 17, 2025, 12:59:40 PM |
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By this chart... BTC could easily reach 180k if it bounces back to the the equivalent M2!! The vertical axes seem to be choses for a specific purpose. They're even on different scales!
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Crazy how so many OGs whine like a 13 year old girl about the volatility. 
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October 17, 2025, 01:23:47 PM Merited by BobLawblaw (2) |
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I am also glad I stopped looking at the price... My testicular fortitude was chiseled by my titanium plate training in 2015 and again in 2018. I am, however, a bit disappointed, as I was planning for the first time in my 3rd cycle to shave some off... That being said, if we did top... then I am all ready to ride the ride yet again... I really still have a lil hope left... Guess it's time to break out the plates again... Start whacking away till I feel nothing once more!!! That's just it. If I watched the last 2 bears, why would I sell now??? The craziest part is how much I dont care about the massive life-changing weekly swings that I am used to (even though nothing really changes... 1 BTC is still 1 BTC.) There is no mindrusting here. and I have been long since the 200's! We all get BTC at the price we deserve K
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October 17, 2025, 01:30:47 PM |
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here is hoping some dip was purchased today.
I got some.
Excellent, Phil! All while others are whining and panicking!
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I'm almost panicking is the how it's going to end? WTF
It's my turn to witness a full bull run the bull is running backwards
You must not sell in this market cycle so there is no point in you panicking. History has shown that those who held across market cycles have been more profitable than those looking to sell at the peak of the bull run to buy back during the following bear market. Besides, it is more peaceful simply holding your coins than trying to flip them as some people do and end up opening themselves up to risk and uncertainties due to the fact that you cannot completely predict where will be the peak and bottom and indeed what the market will do in the future. Looking at the history of Bitcoin, it is clear that those who made decisions based on excessive emotion or were too hasty in making decisions, but later regretted it. Investors who are overly emotional cause their own losses. If they hold on to their investments for a long time, this investment will not only provide profits to an investor but will also protect an investor from excessive mental stress as well as from excessive trading fees, but our Bitcoin will be protected. Bull runs will come in the market and bears will come, but at this time we have to be patient enough. Those who held on to their investments even in these difficult times or after temporary gains have ultimately succeeded, but those who have less patience have regretted selling their investments later. We probably survived the biggest dumping in the Bitcoin market in 2017 and 2021, but even during this time, there were many investors who held on to their investments and trusted the market, but they have now made hundreds of times more profit. Why don't we understand this before investing that the supply of Bitcoin is limited, so the price of this Bitcoin can definitely go to a much higher level in the future. Those who are regretting after the price of Bitcoin touches $100k may be the same as those in this category of people who will regret when the price of Bitcoin touches $200k because they will only wait for the investment but will not invest.
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