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Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 26403110 times)
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September 29, 2014, 11:12:19 PM

Ask yourself one question, why is finex bid side so populated with more than 12k coins down to $300. They want these coins cheaply with margin calls.

ya but there soooo goooooood at what they do   Cry
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September 29, 2014, 11:12:51 PM

seriously can any one make sense of the movement of bitcoin prices?

maybe I missed something in the news but fundamentally it is complete bullshit what is happening?!

its the market figuring itself out, while being fondled by wall street... its really messed up...

my doctorate supervisor in economics always says markets are non-existent, it have to be people who interact, anyway I know what you are saying but even that is not an answer. there have to be people who are willing to sell at that prices.
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September 29, 2014, 11:12:59 PM

free market?? sure! where big players can move the price at will.

manipulators keep dumping and scaring investors. There always will be fools to panic sell.
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September 29, 2014, 11:17:34 PM

Ask yourself one question, why is finex bid side so populated with more than 12k coins down to $300. They want these coins cheaply with margin calls.


well, I can tell you that someone is placing those asks on stamp almost like a pro bot, and bitfinex guys have a history of dumping those margin calls through some advanced non automatic procedures, like placing them as asks when and where they find it suitable.

maybe they are "evil manuplators"?
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September 29, 2014, 11:18:29 PM

ASK orders bot detected (anty wall). Looks like there's only one major seller on btcchina (they should do those orders bots more random...)

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September 29, 2014, 11:18:51 PM

Ask yourself one question, why is finex bid side so populated with more than 12k coins down to $300. They want these coins cheaply with margin calls.

How about ask why the bid sum is so low overall?

I do agree 100% that the BFX activity is really peculiar. It's possible that an entity is selling on bit stamp to trigger sells into much deeper bids on bfx.

Possible... Not extremely unlikely, even, but I won't put my money on that bet. Good luck to those who do, because I still never sold a coin despite my pessimism, that has been validated so far.
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September 29, 2014, 11:19:46 PM

Ask yourself one question, why is finex bid side so populated with more than 12k coins down to $300. They want these coins cheaply with margin calls.


well, I can tell you that someone is placing those asks on stamp like a pro, and bitfinex guys have a history of dumping those margin calls through some advance non automatic procedures, like placing them as asks when and where they find it suitable.

maybe they are "evil manuplators"?


It's all fun and games til someone turns up and buys ten thousand coins.
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September 29, 2014, 11:20:21 PM

seriously can any one make sense of the movement of bitcoin prices?

maybe I missed something in the news but fundamentally it is complete bullshit what is happening?!

its the market figuring itself out, while being fondled by wall street... its really messed up...

my doctorate supervisor in economics always says markets are non-existent, it have to be people who interact, anyway I know what you are saying but even that is not an answer. there have to be people who are willing to sell at that prices.

k well idk what to tell you

there a 1000's of factors effecting price.

usage is picking up, poeple are using there coins for all kinds of things, and so naturally price is going to move WILDLY  on this first turn, should of seen this coming...
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September 29, 2014, 11:21:27 PM

and the dumps come right on time, come on..atleast get down to the old bottom bears.

not that I didn't expect dumps on circle going live, its been sell any news since China bans.

More good news to crash the price further!  Dump it into the ground, yay!

I hope Amazon announces adoption soon, so everyone can get those $50 coins they've been wanting.  Hell I hope the FED announces switching to bitcoin from USD, so it'll go to 0.

If you would recognize that this trend is driven by technicals and all the positive news have no more value than making momentum-money with news-buyers, this downtrend is easy peasy to accept. I think a lot of people get scared since they can't understand. That market makers trying to enforce a capitulation, maybe, but meaningless.

It's a game, and if you lose your composure, you'll lose the game. Take it easier, it's not that they are selling your childrens or parents  Wink


How can I arrange for them to sell both my parents and children? (my children are adults so don't give me any flack)
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September 29, 2014, 11:21:34 PM

Huobi slept right through the dumpage on stamp lol
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September 29, 2014, 11:21:44 PM

Ask yourself one question, why is finex bid side so populated with more than 12k coins down to $300. They want these coins cheaply with margin calls.


well, I can tell you that someone is placing those asks on stamp like a pro, and bitfinex guys have a history of dumping those margin calls through some advance non automatic procedures, like placing them as asks when and where they find it suitable.

maybe they are "evil manuplators"?


It's all fun and games til someone turns up and buys ten thousand coins.
I promise I will @ $0,01
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September 29, 2014, 11:22:48 PM

Ask yourself one question, why is finex bid side so populated with more than 12k coins down to $300. They want these coins cheaply with margin calls.


well, I can tell you that someone is placing those asks on stamp like a pro, and bitfinex guys have a history of dumping those margin calls through some advance non automatic procedures, like placing them as asks when and where they find it suitable.

maybe they are "evil manuplators"?


Dashboard

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Exchange 1 | Exchange 2 | Exchange 3 | Exchange 4

And for each of them buttons: Dump (size 1, 2 or 3), set random asks type 1, set random asks type 2, set random bids 1, set random bids 2, set wall x on y...

And then just few clicks and play the casino and the market goes the way you want.
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September 29, 2014, 11:24:06 PM

Huobi slept right through the dumpage on stamp lol
Soaked it up mostly, there where big dumps there and okcoin.

see no spikes on the volume charts at Huobi

guess it was as you say soaked up in the regular volume.
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September 29, 2014, 11:24:28 PM

It's all circle's fault!!!1

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September 29, 2014, 11:24:49 PM

Dogecoin up or down?


looks like dogesh*t to me right now...no volume during this dumping
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September 29, 2014, 11:26:21 PM

Huobi slept right through the dumpage on stamp lol
Soaked it up mostly, there where big dumps there and okcoin.

see no spikes on the volume charts at Huobi

this is what leads me to believe USD is leader, china my have more traders but they follow USD pricing, if not they would be the ones with volume spikes on big moves
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September 29, 2014, 11:30:06 PM

Ask yourself one question, why is finex bid side so populated with more than 12k coins down to $300. They want these coins cheaply with margin calls.


well, I can tell you that someone is placing those asks on stamp like a pro, and bitfinex guys have a history of dumping those margin calls through some advance non automatic procedures, like placing them as asks when and where they find it suitable.

maybe they are "evil manuplators"?


Dashboard

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Exchange 1 | Exchange 2 | Exchange 3 | Exchange 4

And for each of them buttons: Dump (size 1, 2 or 3), set random asks type 1, set random asks type 2, set random bids 1, set random bids 2, set wall x on y...

And then just few clicks and play the casino and the market goes the way you want.


it is pretty easy to do that if you have enough funds, yes. I am more worried about those practices happening with funds of their customers.

I dont trust them and I dont use them for that reason.
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September 29, 2014, 11:30:31 PM

I wonder if circle will deny low buy ins like Coinbase.

It would be epic for my price alert to flash less than $350 and I'm able to buy in 10 seconds. The ability to buy during flash crashes on Coinbase was near impossible.
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September 29, 2014, 11:32:04 PM

Huobi slept right through the dumpage on stamp lol
Soaked it up mostly, there where big dumps there and okcoin.

see no spikes on the volume charts at Huobi

this is what leads me to believe USD is leader, china my have more traders but they follow USD pricing, if not they would be the ones with volume spikes on big moves

well idk, looking at volume again now... hmm idk... wtv, if china ran 10% above stamps, stamps would fallow, and if stamps ran 10% lower then chain chain would fallow...

I take it back, they all follow each other...
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September 29, 2014, 11:32:11 PM

I think Adam was right about circle, looks like there's regular buys started on bitfinex.


I doubt that there have been very many buys on Circle. 

I signed up for a circle account, and to verify my bank account will take 2-3 days.

Of course, I could buy immediately with a credit card, but I am NOT going to buy with a credit card b/c I am NOT going to take the chance of paying outrageous cash advance fees (which are likely through my CC).


Accordingly, IMHBO it will take a few days before the mass adoption of Circle will result in actual purchasing of coins.

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