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[JamesLit81]

Seriously, how old are you?
You keep contradicting yourself and highlighting your own hypocrisy or ignorance and the saddest part is that you don't realise it.

Regardless, glad you're no longer giving me a platform.
Appreciate it.

James,

I ask your forgiveness for answering you here, I know you did not mention me.

But seriously, you're getting silly now.

Just check Dollux's profile and his posts.

Oogone,

Are you suggesting that because Dollux is classed by bitcointalk's standards as a senior member, i.e. that he has posted 261 times and has been a member for three years, that we should all ignore his own hypocrisy, ignorance and aspersion casting and revere him as a wise and knowledgeable elder?

Does this mean that once I've posted 261 comments, you'll trust everything I say too and look the other way when I cast aspersions?

...and seriously, I'd still like to know how old he is in real life. It's not listed in his profile.

No it generally means that YOU are on a sockpuppet account. The fact that hes a senior member means jack shit tho.
YOUR account is a newbie account and likely not your first account by that measure.. thats the real issue that people should be focused on.. FAKES

I'm not sure what to tell you Milly6...

No tricks, I joined this forum as per the date shown in my profile and it's my first account here.

Why is it so hard for young people to understand there's a life out there beyond social media and that we're not all 'plugged' into the it.

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[grinmoure]

Warning to Sprouts community

I have been removed from the  https://sprouts.community for speaking the truth about the 40% "Premine" which the "NEW CORETEAM" as they call themselves, want to steal from the community.

Open your eyes, they are newbies with a lack of Cryptocurrency knowledge.

For those that had time to read my posts there (it will probably be removed in an effort to hide the truth), I hope you make good decisions.

@ arcmetal - I do have respect for you, and it is a pitty I have to associate you with the "coreteam"

Maybe your silk gloves were too rough for Gonnabetya  

I don't know if they're newbies, i only see a standard forum with a thin plan, and a low probability for succes.


More important : what hasn't been said yet ;  

After the Fork sprouts+ will not be on any exchange (i'm sure #novaexchange and #coinexchange have not been informed of the plans)

Sprouts+ is not on coinmarketcap , and not here at #bitcointalk , which makes it even more questionable.


More food for thought:

The problem of the extreme stakes needs to be resolved, we need a volunteer to set up a chatroom, and assemble the whales for a plan to do the wallet-correction.
I propose to use this post as a temporary warroom

The community needs to speak up.
 
Sprouts community has been split up - which is understandable, everyone want to be able to trade and profit,
but currently the only option on the table is to give 40% of your investment or else they have you believe it will be destruction of Sprouts. (The community is hold to ransom)

For those that do not want to give away 40% of their holding towards unrealistic promises and cosy salaries, you need to post suggestions, so we can assess possibilities.

edit: You need to post on this forum where it is visible to the whole crypto community - the sprouts.community forum is manipulated and there is no freedom of speech as proven,
furthermore it helps the "coreteam" conceal what they are up to from the rest of the crypto community. When did they last post here, where it is open?

I sold my stake because I did not agree with a massive reverse split.  The coin was working for staking.  Every 5-8 days I sold 30-50% of my newly minted coins for DOGE then bought LTC.  It was working fine.  Others want capital appreciation.  They should have introduced a new coin for that.

[JamesLit81]

Seriously, how old are you?
You keep contradicting yourself and highlighting your own hypocrisy or ignorance and the saddest part is that you don't realise it.

Regardless, glad you're no longer giving me a platform.
Appreciate it.

James,

I ask your forgiveness for answering you here, I know you did not mention me.

But seriously, you're getting silly now.

Just check Dollux's profile and his posts.

Oogone,

Are you suggesting that because Dollux is classed by bitcointalk's standards as a senior member, i.e. that he has posted 261 times and has been a member for three years, that we should all ignore his own hypocrisy, ignorance and aspersion casting and revere him as a wise and knowledgeable elder?

...and seriously, I'd still like to know how old he is in real life.

No, I am not saying that,

I am saying that from reading his posts,

You might be able to assess his age and what level he is thinking at,

Before asking the way you do.

Oogone,

The reason I have asked his age is because based on his tone, aspersion casting and some of the comments he has made, I get the impression as mentioned in one of my posts, that he's a teen.

If indeed he is a teen, that's not a problem, it would simply explain to me why he felt the need to engage me for the purpose of casting aspersions and making accusations towards me and my development team. It would also allow me to tailor future posts in reply to him.

I replied succinctly to his post relating to the 'secretive forum' with what I believe to be excellent reasoning regarding why we're hosting our own forum, reasoning in part that falls directly in line with a decentralised philosophy and later also mentioned that we have FB, Telegram, Twitter and now bitcointalk accounts, and still Dollux felt the need to argue with me.

Need I remind you that it was you, Dollux and Aztec who engaged us in debate and I on behalf of my team have responded each time, with well thought out and clear reasoning.

As you put it, if someone mentions me in a post, should I not respond?

Ageism

Milly6,

Based on your post, I'm guessing you too are young, yes?

Replying to my post simply with the word 'ageism' shows a complete lack of understanding or thought, based on what I'd said in the post that you've decided to comment on.

The comments I made were valid and not at all an example of ageism.

An example of ageism would have been if I'd said,  "Based on his age, I choose not to communicate with him" Or, "All young people are stupid".

Before replying or engaging with people, you really need to read carefully and understand the context of a message.

[JamesLit81]

Warning to Sprouts community

I have been removed from the  https://sprouts.community for speaking the truth about the 40% "Premine" which the "NEW CORETEAM" as they call themselves, want to steal from the community.

Open your eyes, they are newbies with a lack of Cryptocurrency knowledge.

For those that had time to read my posts there (it will probably be removed in an effort to hide the truth), I hope you make good decisions.

@ arcmetal - I do have respect for you, and it is a pitty I have to associate you with the "coreteam"

Maybe your silk gloves were too rough for Gonnabetya  

I don't know if they're newbies, i only see a standard forum with a thin plan, and a low probability for succes.


More important : what hasn't been said yet ;  

After the Fork sprouts+ will not be on any exchange (i'm sure #novaexchange and #coinexchange have not been informed of the plans)

Sprouts+ is not on coinmarketcap , and not here at #bitcointalk , which makes it even more questionable.


More food for thought:

The problem of the extreme stakes needs to be resolved, we need a volunteer to set up a chatroom, and assemble the whales for a plan to do the wallet-correction.
I propose to use this post as a temporary warroom

The community needs to speak up.
 
Sprouts community has been split up - which is understandable, everyone want to be able to trade and profit,
but currently the only option on the table is to give 40% of your investment or else they have you believe it will be destruction of Sprouts. (The community is hold to ransom)

For those that do not want to give away 40% of their holding towards unrealistic promises and cosy salaries, you need to post suggestions, so we can assess possibilities.

edit: You need to post on this forum where it is visible to the whole crypto community - the sprouts.community forum is manipulated and there is no freedom of speech as proven,
furthermore it helps the "coreteam" conceal what they are up to from the rest of the crypto community. When did they last post here, where it is open?

I sold my stake because I did not agree with a massive reverse split.  The coin was working for staking.  Every 5-8 days I sold 30-50% of my newly minted coins for DOGE then bought LTC.  It was working fine.  Others want capital appreciation.  They should have introduced a new coin for that.

grinmoure,

You do understand though that due to the large POS reward, that Sprouts will not be around for too much longer (unless forked). Meaning, your routine of staking and selling for Doge is coming to an end anyway?

[JamesLit81]

@JamesLit81,
See you are using a newbie account, is that because your old account has bad trust ratings?
Didn't you used to go by the name barrysty1e?
(His name is also James.)

He was also known for not completing programming jobs, he said he would do.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=526220

CryptoDatabase   2017-06-09   0.30000000   Reference   Still refusing to return my money.
Joel_Jantsen   2017-05-31   0.00000000        Reference   Failed to abide by the deadlines and didn't payback 0.20.Be careful hiring him for the development jobs.

╥Aztek

AztekPhoenix,

The reason I have a newbie account is because I've not posted many comments. I joined bitcointalk not long before I invested into Sprouts.

No relation to barrysty1e.

Are you related to Oogone?

Aztek and Oogone are long standing members of the community. You likely are too but wont reveal your true identity because you probably never paid someone back or scammed someone i assume?

Milly6,

Since joining bitcointalk back in May of this year, apart for the few adults I've since become friends with through the formation of the development team for Sprouts and now Sprouts+, the rest of my interactions here have been incredibly underwhelming, even disappointing, as it seems this forum, or at least this channel, is monopolised by young kids who don't fully read, care or are seemingly incapable of comprehending what's written by others, even when well though out and rational explanations are provided a number of times.

Had you read the string of posts I have now submitted since standing up against the accusations and aspersions Oogone cast, and then Dollux and then Aztec, you'd have realised that I am indeed, being genuine, direct and sincere.

As you grow older i.e. mature, you realise that casting aspersions, making baseless accusations and even assuming, is counter-productive.

I currently own three companies, work seven days a week and back in June took on a role to revive Sprouts with a dedicated team of like-minded crypto enthusiasts. Since forming the team, we have brought 290 Sprouts holders together and have lifted the 24 hour volume from a near flat line that extended the seven months prior, for the purpose of extending the life of Sprouts (now, through Sprouts+) which means all who hold Sprouts and decide to swap, will not only, not lose their investment, but will likely gain, and more importantly, so that we can build a bigger, better currency with real goals, values, drive and value.

My name is James, I am 40 years old, married and live in Sydney, Australia.

We, my team and I, are very serious about taking Sprouts+ globally and have no intention of scamming anyone.

Swap, don't swap, invest, don't invest... No one is being forced.

Let's try though to raise the level of maturity here, so that we are all able to engage constructively as everything else is counter-productive and time wasting.

[lordgoth]

Agree. Let stop this nonsense fight. No one force anyone to swap. That is your CHOICE. Anyone doesn't want to swap, your sprouts still in your pocket. Since oogone said that he will form up another team, we will have another choice. No rush at all. Remember, swap or not, that is your decision.

[JamesLit81]

Need I remind you that it was you, Dollux and Aztec who engaged us in debate and I on behalf of my team have responded each time, with well thought out and clear reasoning.

As you put it, if someone mentions me in a post, should I not respond?

Since you mentioned me,

Let's engage , shall we.


Exactly why do you need 40% , which including your own personal accounts would give you and so called team ,
over 51% of the new sprouts coin, IE: Total Control

Plus if anyone swaps with you for your new coins , are you going to immediately sell all of the old sprouts crashing it and gleaming yourselves the pittance it would bring.

Since you are a newbie , are you or any of your team linking to your real names or previous developed coins to inspire trust.

What Block Explorer will you be using?

What exchanges have you contact to trade your new coin on?
(And what were their replies?)



╥Aztek

Hello Aztec,

Apart from the continued aspersions and accusations, great questions,

1)
You've suggested that we, the dev team will after the swap, hold 51%. I'm not sure where you sourced that info from? but as you have no way of knowing how many Sprouts we each currently hold, it's unlikely you can claim we will hold 51%. So, this is a baseless accusation...

For your information and everyone else's, we will not hold 51% of the total supply, not even close to it.

None of us are big fish, in the Sprouts ocean.

Rather than retype all that has been said regarding your question "Exactly why do you need 40%", it would be considerably less frustrating (for me) if you'd read through the posts on the forum.

Here is the direct link to the discussion on same https://sprouts.community/t/major-update-premining-sprouts-and-roadmap-estimations/409

2)
We are still discussing amongst ourselves (dev team) which way we will handle the swapped Sprouts coins. I'm not sure when you say "gleaming yourselves the pittance it would bring" whether you're suggesting we'll be able to sell the Sprouts coins for lots of money or that they're worth pittance, which usually means, very little.

Either way, we have not yet decided and so I cannot give you a straight answer, sorry.

3)
While most of our team are, and only ever have been crypto investors, our senior crypto devs are part of a global business that specialises in the development of blockchian technologies and apps.

I am happy to ask them if they will allow me to publish the name of their business. Obviously you understand, I can't do so without their permission.

4)
We have not yet finalised which explorer we will use, whether we stick with cryptoid.info, use another or build our own.

5)
We have not yet contacted any exchanges as we are still in the middle of a community vote regarding which currency we will clone to build Sprouts+ and the choice of which exchanges, will depend in part, on the outcome of the community vote which ends on the 31st of this month.

The three contenders are:

a) Ethereum clone
b) PeerCoin clone
c) X - any the community would like to see used as long as it meets with the requirements of our crypto devs capabilities and licensing, etc.

6)
"Oogone is in conversation with another dev to make the changes to the original sprouts without paying the 40% scam fee you are charging ,
so why in the world would anyone pick your way with a 40% penalty fee and granting your team total control over the coin verses someone else that is willing to just make the needed code changes?"

Once again, you've worded your question erroneously and made accusations that are not true however, to answer the overall question of why:

Here are four reasons;

• Because we are a core team of eight, three of whom own our own businesses or companies, one of which (the business) specialises in blockchain technology. We already have gained a great deal of experience between us relating to the successful operation of an organisation and understand what it takes to be successful from not only a financial perspective but also a cultural one
• We are not simply aiming to keep Sprouts alive in our spare time, we are planning to turn Sprouts+ into a global organisation with contracts connecting many thousands of real, profit and not for profit organisations
• We plan to quit our day jobs when possible and in one or two cases, will close down existing businesses in order to focus our full attention on ensuring Sprouts+ is a success
• Most importantly, because in spite of a few casting aspersions and baseless accusations, we have remained professional and have provided well thought out, reasonable responses to same. Which, speaks volumes about how the development team will not only conduct themselves, but also the currency and associated organisation they are responsible for

Clarifications of your answers

1.  You Claimed there is no way for the community to know if you have 51% or not, so the assumption is false.
  
* In Truth, you claim 8 members needing only 11% combined in conjunction with the 40% to reach 51%, by claiming the assumption was false you just indicated you personally know the exact balance of every team member, which is in and of itself very odd, meaning none of you personally own any sprouts or you are lying about knowing the others amounts. Either way , not a good sign.

2.  Unable to answer at this time.  
3.  Unable to answer at this time.  
4.  Unable to answer at this time.  
5.  Unable to answer at this time.  

* Does not inspire confidence, funny your team knew almost immediately they needed 40%, yet these other simple things have yet to be worked out. *


6.  We plan to quit our day jobs when possible and in one or two cases, will close down existing businesses in order to focus our full attention on ensuring Sprouts+ is a success

***LOL, your answer to # 6 almost made me pee my pants , I was laughing so hard. No one but fool or a scammer would say they would quit their existing business to work on a crypto coin , a Sane individual would wait and see if the new coin was even viable before saying they quit their day job. They definitely would have their exchanges already picked .***

Thanks you given me enough to verify in my reasoning exactly what you are.

You & your group are just a bunch of scammers out to hoodwink a coin community you feel can be threaten/tricked into obedience and subjugation.

Good Luck with your scam,
I will set my personal coins on fire , before you ever see one of my coins swapped for your scam.


╥Aztek

Aztek,

You remain the poster child for the comments I directed towards Milly6 today...

"***LOL, your answer to # 6 almost made me pee my pants , I was laughing so hard. No one but fool or a scammer would say they would quit their existing business to work on a crypto coin , a Sane individual would wait and see if the new coin was even viable before saying they quit their day job. They definitely would have their exchanges already picked .***"

My comments, "We plan to quit our day jobs when possible and in one or two cases, will close down existing businesses in order to focus our full attention on ensuring Sprouts+ is a success" included a clear indicator as to when, we would quit our day jobs, which was, "when possible". We are indeed sane individuals and have no intention of quitting our day jobs until there is enough capital for at least three yeas, in an account, as already discussed now, numerous times.

When you say, "funny your team knew almost immediately they needed 40%, yet these other simple things have yet to be worked out.", you don't appear to have taken into account that nothing has been immediate. In fact, everything has taken considerably longer than any of us had hoped for. The team was conceived as discussed, back in April/May of this year and we've only just recently released the details on the premine as we have focused on other tasks up until recently, rightly or wrongly.

As for the "simple things" yet to be worked out comment; The way I operate generally in life and also in my own businesses is to tackle the unknown first, leaving the known and quantifiable until last. It seems the rest of the team operates the same way. Simple things as you put them, are simple. Unknown things require greater though and can also determine whether a project is actually viable or not and so the unknowns need to be known and dealt with, first.

Having said that, the direction and our approach has been rather fluid up until recently. We have only just solidified a number of key aspects relating to the overall project.

"They definitely would have their exchanges already picked", according to who? Are you an expert source of knowledge on all things related to the launch of a crypto currency? Have you launched a currency yourself? Do you know of some reference text that all previous currencies have used as a guide when planning to launch a currency that stipulates one must pick the exchanges as a matter of priority?

If indeed there is such a text for how to launch a new currency, would you provide the link as it may be beneficial to us, as none of us has launched a new currency previously.

"In Truth, you claim 8 members needing only 11% combined in conjunction with the 40% to reach 51%, by claiming the assumption was false you just indicated you personally know the exact balance of every team member, which is in and of itself very odd" - Why is it odd that a group of people all interested in a currency, who all came together because of their common interest in same, would share information such as how much they hold? I have read plenty of posts from people who have divulged their holding to a room full of strangers.

The majority of team members have known each other now for more than four months, have had many discussions about the project, our personal lives, crypto currencies, hobbies, businesses, passions, dreams, etc and are continuing to learn more about each other every day. Why would we remain secretive and untrusting of each other? We're a team with a common goal of making Sprouts+ a success.

I find it fascinating that on the one hand you accuse us of being secretive and centralised for opting to host our own forum, implying we should be more open, and yet now you're accusing us of being too open and for feeling comfortable discussing how many coins we each hold amongst ourselves.

Suggesting that it's "not a good sign" that we trust each other and feel comfortable chatting openly with each other is a reflection on you and your level of distrust, not on us and our ability to form a cohesive and well bonded team.

"I will set my personal coins on fire , before you ever see one of my coins swapped for your scam." - The great thing about the swap is that... Yup, it's entirely voluntary.

You don't have to swap. Stick with your Sprouts, hold them, burn them. Whatever you'd like.

Either way, I stand by everything I have said thus far.

[nitinum]

Nice ICO, good  luck guys!
what is  Cryptopia?

[dollux]

Nice ICO, good  luck guys!
what is  Cryptopia?

It's an exchange.

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/

[oogone]

Hey, oogone & AztekPhoenix, it's good to have you around, thanks for not being dumb asses and I do hope you think the opinion of a less than grown up has some value, thanks.

Anyway every sock puppet show needs an audience, don't give it your time and it will end up performing to it's self.

I am quite happy really because I got a song out of it all and sold it last night, they are putting the music down for it as we speak.

Here it is below if your interested.


Acute by The-MasterBakers.

Everybody sees the scripted shows
of common people with fancy clothes
We are the poor and unknown

Everybody comes and everybody goes
Many people, who no one knows
We are the poor and unknown

We are everything
without us there's no need to sing
No ultra left or real right wing
would work without us

Without us it all means nought
The whole mad show
is there to distort
to keep us fixed in the state of contort
It's a crazy scene with no comfort

Anybody see the whopping big lie
The scripted dreams sucking us dry
We are the poor and unknown

Anybody see what's coming about
The rich disease is eating us out
We are the poor and unknown

With out us the script ain't right
Without us they don't build shite
We are the poor and unknown

Here's a finished version of another song below, again only if your interested.

https://youtu.be/diF_QGe_YuM


RIP Fats Domino, long live Rock'n'Roll.

Pardon me for only replying to your post now.....had some internet connection problems because of bad weather.....third world.

Like your post, got a new band to follow, nice lyrics and music.

edit: Why not a bit of entertainment, while digesting some of the madness as well?

[dollux]

@oogone, I'm happy your happy, seems to go both ways, what better could there be, everybody wins.

Thanks for taking the time.

[defeatedtickled]

Ok, so how much they want to raise in USD by current rates now?

[currentlocus]

Hey guys, pls tell, does this kind of project have competitors?

[CryptoFreako]

WOW!
Looks like the market is responding to the awesome news of the 40% premine just as expected......currently worthless.
Great job ya greedy devs. Looks like you guys wont be quitting those day jobs after all. LOL
ps I'm not young......

[JamesLit81]

WOW!
Looks like the market is responding to the awesome news of the 40% premine just as expected......currently worthless.
Great job ya greedy devs. Looks like you guys wont be quitting those day jobs after all. LOL
ps I'm not young......

CryptoFreako,

In case you have not been paying attention to the peak and trough trading pattern that spans across the past five months, there are regular drops and then they pick back up again.

The 24 hour volume is interesting though...

[JamesLit81]

Hey guys, pls tell, does this kind of project have competitors?

Hi currentlocus,

Yes, in short, if you mean do we have competitors within the Sprouts community who are working to extend or migrate the community to a currency that is not going to wipe itself out due to an excessively high POS reward.

There are now two teams working on different solutions.

1) I am part of one team, we're launching Sprouts+, a new currency (likely based on Ethereum, a clone, at this point) and will conduct a coin swap (Sprouts for Sprouts+) when ready

2) A forum member named Oogone has set up a team and is working to reduce the total supply and POS reward of the existing code-base, thus hard forking the existing chain (as I understand it. Maybe Oogone could clarify his position for you)

[Megumi143]

Whatever has happened Sprouts is near Zero

[Megumi143]

And now has a 1million market cap compared to 45miilion market cap a week ago, so could someone explain to me why ?

Did someone cause this to happen ? If Not how ?

[JamesLit81]

And now has a 1million market cap compared to 45miilion market cap a week ago, so could someone explain to me why ?

Did someone cause this to happen ? If Not how ?

Megumi143,

Have a look at https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/sprouts/

You'll see that the market cap along with value has gone up and down like a yo-yo since June and prior to June, it flat lined for seven months.

No doubt the value and cap will rise again in a day or two.

[Megumi143]

And now has a 1million market cap compared to 45miilion market cap a week ago, so could someone explain to me why ?

Did someone cause this to happen ? If Not how ?

Megumi143,

Have a look at https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/sprouts/

You'll see that the market cap along with value has gone up and down like a yo-yo since June and prior to June, it flat lined for seven months.

No doubt the value and cap will rise again in a day or two.

It's true that does happen. I just thought it was Ogoone with all his warning signs and comments about the Devs. I'll probably pick some up if this continues to become a bargain.