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[JamesLit81]

@Dollux,

Love the quote by Lord Action. It rings true a lot of the time.

As we're getting philosophical, I feel of greater concern though, is corruption and a self serving nature.

Regarding your comments about the secretive, locked forums: they're a little misleading aren't they, as the forum "link removed" is open to the public. Anyone can join.

A definition of secret: "kept from the knowledge of any but the initiated or privileged:"
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/secret?s=t
so no misleading by me there, I consider it to be subscription baiting.
"Anyone can join." To become initiated or privileged.

Link spam, the posts above the one quoted and now many more
already have a link. Link saturation, aren't you simply link spamming,
all of it orchestrated just so you can spread more links and make
more noise.

Aren't my words no more misleading than: "Anyone can join."
Isn't this just an attempt at centralization, anyone can join,
joining something is a mark of support, affiliation, centralization and
not exactly open when you have to join, especially when a forum
already exists and it is simply duplication.

There is nothing winning my confidence so far.

Dollux,

Really? Your argument is "Isn't this just an attempt at centralization" and "especially when a forum already exists and it is simply duplication".

So... you're suggesting that all should 'join up' and use bitcointalk and nothing else?

To put it another way, you're suggesting all crypto currencies should centralise their forums onto bitcointalk? Be dependent on a centralised system controlled by someone else?

We have our own dedicated forum for a number of reasons, and some of those are:

• It's more professional
• It's easier to follow threads
• It allows us to manage and maintain the system ourselves
• It allows greater flexibility by providing categories, topics, etc, specific to our needs and brand
• We're not beholden to some other organisation, i.e. we're decentralised

Are you joking, I am not, he who names the conflict owns it, the argument is all yours, fact, unless you didn't write the nonsense quoted above.  

"he who names the conflict owns it", how old are you, seriously? You've ignored the fact that I pointed out the hypocrisy in your post and that in fact, by hosting our own forum, we are maintaining a decentralised philosophy, and you have instead posted the sort of thing a teenage boy would post, while high...

Marked in red the quote above, is your statement, you are telling me that I am arguing, you do not have the right to tell me that I am arguing, you are the one arguing by your own admission above.

I am no longer giving you a platform to do this, to do the things you are stating that you are trying to do, you do not need to have a closed, secret forum, it is all nonsense. Excuses to justify your need for secrecy, reluctance to be open in open forum, all you have said can be done in an open forum and does not need to be on Bitcointalk, I have never said it does you are the one saying that to justify your own position in needing secrecy, total control, pull the other one it might ring as well, au revoir.

Dollux,

Seriously, how old are you?
You keep contradicting yourself and highlighting your own hypocrisy or ignorance and the saddest part is that you don't realise it.

Regardless, glad you're no longer giving me a platform.
Appreciate it.

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[oogone]

Seriously, how old are you?
You keep contradicting yourself and highlighting your own hypocrisy or ignorance and the saddest part is that you don't realise it.

Regardless, glad you're no longer giving me a platform.
Appreciate it.

James,

I ask your forgiveness for answering you here, I know you did not mention me.

But seriously, you're getting silly now.

Just check Dollux's profile and his posts.

[JamesLit81]

Seriously, how old are you?
You keep contradicting yourself and highlighting your own hypocrisy or ignorance and the saddest part is that you don't realise it.

Regardless, glad you're no longer giving me a platform.
Appreciate it.

James,

I ask your forgiveness for answering you here, I know you did not mention me.

But seriously, you're getting silly now.

Just check Dollux's profile and his posts.

Oogone,

Are you suggesting that because Dollux is classed by bitcointalk's standards as a senior member, i.e. that he has posted 261 times and has been a member for three years, that we should all ignore his own hypocrisy, ignorance and aspersion casting and revere him as a wise and knowledgeable elder?

Does this mean that once I've posted 261 comments, you'll trust everything I say too and look the other way when I cast aspersions?

...and seriously, I'd still like to know how old he is in real life. It's not listed in his profile.

[oogone]

Seriously, how old are you?
You keep contradicting yourself and highlighting your own hypocrisy or ignorance and the saddest part is that you don't realise it.

Regardless, glad you're no longer giving me a platform.
Appreciate it.

James,

I ask your forgiveness for answering you here, I know you did not mention me.

But seriously, you're getting silly now.

Just check Dollux's profile and his posts.

Oogone,

Are you suggesting that because Dollux is classed by bitcointalk's standards as a senior member, i.e. that he has posted 261 times and has been a member for three years, that we should all ignore his own hypocrisy, ignorance and aspersion casting and revere him as a wise and knowledgeable elder?

...and seriously, I'd still like to know how old he is in real life.

No, I am not saying that,

I am saying that from reading his posts,

You might be able to assess his age and what level he is thinking at,

Before asking the way you do.

edit:Why is age so important?

[oogone]

Is it even possible to buy and sell this coin. If so give me the links please cause I can't find anything so far .

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/SPRTS/BTC
https://www.coinexchange.io/market/SPRTS/DOGE

https://novaexchange.com/market/BTC_SPRT/
https://novaexchange.com/market/LTC_SPRT/
https://novaexchange.com/market/DOGE_SPRT/
https://novaexchange.com/market/ETH_SPRT/
https://novaexchange.com/market/KIC_SPRT/
https://novaexchange.com/market/ESP2_SPRT/
https://novaexchange.com/market/MOON_SPRT/

https://www.coingather.com/exchange/SPRTS/BTC
https://www.coingather.com/exchange/SPRTS/LTC
https://www.coingather.com/exchange/SPRTS/DOGE
https://www.coingather.com/exchange/SPRTS/HTML5

So only on exchanges that's a shame this coin goes up and down all the time you can make so much profit..

Then go for it, you see something others might overlook.

[JamesLit81]

Seriously, how old are you?
You keep contradicting yourself and highlighting your own hypocrisy or ignorance and the saddest part is that you don't realise it.

Regardless, glad you're no longer giving me a platform.
Appreciate it.

James,

I ask your forgiveness for answering you here, I know you did not mention me.

But seriously, you're getting silly now.

Just check Dollux's profile and his posts.

Oogone,

Are you suggesting that because Dollux is classed by bitcointalk's standards as a senior member, i.e. that he has posted 261 times and has been a member for three years, that we should all ignore his own hypocrisy, ignorance and aspersion casting and revere him as a wise and knowledgeable elder?

...and seriously, I'd still like to know how old he is in real life.

No, I am not saying that,

I am saying that from reading his posts,

You might be able to assess his age and what level he is thinking at,

Before asking the way you do.

Oogone,

The reason I have asked his age is because based on his tone, aspersion casting and some of the comments he has made, I get the impression as mentioned in one of my posts, that he's a teen.

If indeed he is a teen, that's not a problem, it would simply explain to me why he felt the need to engage me for the purpose of casting aspersions and making accusations towards me and my development team. It would also allow me to tailor future posts in reply to him.

I replied succinctly to his post relating to the 'secretive forum' with what I believe to be excellent reasoning regarding why we're hosting our own forum, reasoning in part that falls directly in line with a decentralised philosophy and later also mentioned that we have FB, Telegram, Twitter and now bitcointalk accounts, and still Dollux felt the need to argue with me.

Need I remind you that it was you, Dollux and Aztec who engaged us in debate and I on behalf of my team have responded each time, with well thought out and clear reasoning.

As you put it, if someone mentions me in a post, should I not respond?

[triathleteoxford]

Hello dev, need local community manager? I want to reserve it if you need

[vcdragon]

i dont see it list on crytopia any more?

[JamesLit81]

Need I remind you that it was you, Dollux and Aztec who engaged us in debate and I on behalf of my team have responded each time, with well thought out and clear reasoning.

As you put it, if someone mentions me in a post, should I not respond?

Since you mentioned me,

Let's engage , shall we.


Exactly why do you need 40% , which including your own personal accounts would give you and so called team ,
over 51% of the new sprouts coin, IE: Total Control

Plus if anyone swaps with you for your new coins , are you going to immediately sell all of the old sprouts crashing it and gleaming yourselves the pittance it would bring.

Since you are a newbie , are you or any of your team linking to your real names or previous developed coins to inspire trust.

What Block Explorer will you be using?

What exchanges have you contact to trade your new coin on?
(And what were their replies?)

Oogone is in conversation with another dev to make the changes to the original sprouts without paying the 40% scam fee you are charging ,
so why in the world would anyone pick your way with a 40% penalty fee and granting your team total control over the coin verses someone else that is willing to just make the needed code changes?



╥Aztek

Need I remind you that it was you, Dollux and Aztec who engaged us in debate and I on behalf of my team have responded each time, with well thought out and clear reasoning.

As you put it, if someone mentions me in a post, should I not respond?

Since you mentioned me,

Let's engage , shall we.


Exactly why do you need 40% , which including your own personal accounts would give you and so called team ,
over 51% of the new sprouts coin, IE: Total Control

Plus if anyone swaps with you for your new coins , are you going to immediately sell all of the old sprouts crashing it and gleaming yourselves the pittance it would bring.

Since you are a newbie , are you or any of your team linking to your real names or previous developed coins to inspire trust.

What Block Explorer will you be using?

What exchanges have you contact to trade your new coin on?
(And what were their replies?)



╥Aztek

Hello Aztec,

Apart from the continued aspersions and accusations, great questions,

1)
You've suggested that we, the dev team will after the swap, hold 51%. I'm not sure where you sourced that info from? but as you have no way of knowing how many Sprouts we each currently hold, it's unlikely you can claim we will hold 51%. So, this is a baseless accusation...

For your information and everyone else's, we will not hold 51% of the total supply, not even close to it.

None of us are big fish, in the Sprouts ocean.

Rather than retype all that has been said regarding your question "Exactly why do you need 40%", it would be considerably less frustrating (for me) if you'd read through the posts on the forum.

Here is the direct link to the discussion on same https://sprouts.community/t/major-update-premining-sprouts-and-roadmap-estimations/409

2)
We are still discussing amongst ourselves (dev team) which way we will handle the swapped Sprouts coins. I'm not sure when you say "gleaming yourselves the pittance it would bring" whether you're suggesting we'll be able to sell the Sprouts coins for lots of money or that they're worth pittance, which usually means, very little.

Either way, we have not yet decided and so I cannot give you a straight answer, sorry.

3)
While most of our team are, and only ever have been crypto investors, our senior crypto devs are part of a global business that specialises in the development of blockchian technologies and apps.

I am happy to ask them if they will allow me to publish the name of their business. Obviously you understand, I can't do so without their permission.

4)
We have not yet finalised which explorer we will use, whether we stick with cryptoid.info, use another or build our own.

5)
We have not yet contacted any exchanges as we are still in the middle of a community vote regarding which currency we will clone to build Sprouts+ and the choice of which exchanges, will depend in part, on the outcome of the community vote which ends on the 31st of this month.

The three contenders are:

a) Ethereum clone
b) PeerCoin clone
c) X - any the community would like to see used as long as it meets with the requirements of our crypto devs capabilities and licensing, etc.

6)
"Oogone is in conversation with another dev to make the changes to the original sprouts without paying the 40% scam fee you are charging ,
so why in the world would anyone pick your way with a 40% penalty fee and granting your team total control over the coin verses someone else that is willing to just make the needed code changes?"

Once again, you've worded your question erroneously and made accusations that are not true however, to answer the overall question of why:

Here are four reasons;

• Because we are a core team of eight, three of whom own our own businesses or companies, one of which (the business) specialises in blockchain technology. We already have gained a great deal of experience between us relating to the successful operation of an organisation and understand what it takes to be successful from not only a financial perspective but also a cultural one
• We are not simply aiming to keep Sprouts alive in our spare time, we are planning to turn Sprouts+ into a global organisation with contracts connecting many thousands of real, profit and not for profit organisations
• We plan to quit our day jobs when possible and in one or two cases, will close down existing businesses in order to focus our full attention on ensuring Sprouts+ is a success
• Most importantly, because in spite of a few casting aspersions and baseless accusations, we have remained professional and have provided well thought out, reasonable responses to same. Which, speaks volumes about how the development team will not only conduct themselves, but also the currency and associated organisation they are responsible for

[dollux]

i dont see it list on crytopia any more?

It was removed a couple of months ago I think.

I don't know why but at a guess it became negative equity, cost more than it was worth.

[Corsacu]

Just wanna understand what is better to do with all the coins i got The offer is overwhelmingly higher than demand.

[dollux]

Hey, oogone & AztekPhoenix, it's good to have you around, thanks for not being dumb asses and I do hope you think the opinion of a less than grown up has some value, thanks.

Anyway every sock puppet show needs an audience, don't give it your time and it will end up performing to it's self.

I am quite happy really because I got a song out of it all and sold it last night, they are putting the music down for it as we speak.

Here it is below if your interested.


Acute by The-MasterBakers.

Everybody sees the scripted shows
of common people with fancy clothes
We are the poor and unknown

Everybody comes and everybody goes
Many people, who no one knows
We are the poor and unknown

We are everything
without us there's no need to sing
No ultra left or real right wing
would work without us

Without us it all means nought
The whole mad show
is there to distort
to keep us fixed in the state of contort
It's a crazy scene with no comfort

Anybody see the whopping big lie
The scripted dreams sucking us dry
We are the poor and unknown

Anybody see what's coming about
The rich disease is eating us out
We are the poor and unknown

With out us the script ain't right
Without us they don't build shite
We are the poor and unknown

Here's a finished version of another song below, again only if your interested.

https://youtu.be/diF_QGe_YuM


RIP Fats Domino, long live Rock'n'Roll.

[dollux]

Just wanna understand what is better to do with all the coins i got The offer is overwhelmingly higher than demand.

All I can say is what many others have said before me, "if it sounds too good to be true it probably is."

[Corsacu]

Just wanna understand what is better to do with all the coins i got The offer is overwhelmingly higher than demand.

All I can say is what many others have said before me, "if it sounds too good to be true it probably is."

Really hope so...

[milly6]

Seriously, how old are you?
You keep contradicting yourself and highlighting your own hypocrisy or ignorance and the saddest part is that you don't realise it.

Regardless, glad you're no longer giving me a platform.
Appreciate it.

James,

I ask your forgiveness for answering you here, I know you did not mention me.

But seriously, you're getting silly now.

Just check Dollux's profile and his posts.

Oogone,

Are you suggesting that because Dollux is classed by bitcointalk's standards as a senior member, i.e. that he has posted 261 times and has been a member for three years, that we should all ignore his own hypocrisy, ignorance and aspersion casting and revere him as a wise and knowledgeable elder?

Does this mean that once I've posted 261 comments, you'll trust everything I say too and look the other way when I cast aspersions?

...and seriously, I'd still like to know how old he is in real life. It's not listed in his profile.

No it generally means that YOU are on a sockpuppet account. The fact that hes a senior member means jack shit tho.
YOUR account is a newbie account and likely not your first account by that measure.. thats the real issue that people should be focused on.. FAKES

[milly6]

Seriously, how old are you?
You keep contradicting yourself and highlighting your own hypocrisy or ignorance and the saddest part is that you don't realise it.

Regardless, glad you're no longer giving me a platform.
Appreciate it.

James,

I ask your forgiveness for answering you here, I know you did not mention me.

But seriously, you're getting silly now.

Just check Dollux's profile and his posts.

Oogone,

Are you suggesting that because Dollux is classed by bitcointalk's standards as a senior member, i.e. that he has posted 261 times and has been a member for three years, that we should all ignore his own hypocrisy, ignorance and aspersion casting and revere him as a wise and knowledgeable elder?

...and seriously, I'd still like to know how old he is in real life.

No, I am not saying that,

I am saying that from reading his posts,

You might be able to assess his age and what level he is thinking at,

Before asking the way you do.

Oogone,

The reason I have asked his age is because based on his tone, aspersion casting and some of the comments he has made, I get the impression as mentioned in one of my posts, that he's a teen.

If indeed he is a teen, that's not a problem, it would simply explain to me why he felt the need to engage me for the purpose of casting aspersions and making accusations towards me and my development team. It would also allow me to tailor future posts in reply to him.

I replied succinctly to his post relating to the 'secretive forum' with what I believe to be excellent reasoning regarding why we're hosting our own forum, reasoning in part that falls directly in line with a decentralised philosophy and later also mentioned that we have FB, Telegram, Twitter and now bitcointalk accounts, and still Dollux felt the need to argue with me.

Need I remind you that it was you, Dollux and Aztec who engaged us in debate and I on behalf of my team have responded each time, with well thought out and clear reasoning.

As you put it, if someone mentions me in a post, should I not respond?

Ageism

[bitcoinerjawa]

hey dev any bounty campaign or airdrop for your project?

[milly6]

@JamesLit81,
See you are using a newbie account, is that because your old account has bad trust ratings?
Didn't you used to go by the name barrysty1e?
(His name is also James.)

He was also known for not completing programming jobs, he said he would do.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=526220

CryptoDatabase   2017-06-09   0.30000000   Reference   Still refusing to return my money.
Joel_Jantsen   2017-05-31   0.00000000        Reference   Failed to abide by the deadlines and didn't payback 0.20.Be careful hiring him for the development jobs.

╥Aztek

AztekPhoenix,

The reason I have a newbie account is because I've not posted many comments. I joined bitcointalk not long before I invested into Sprouts.

No relation to barrysty1e.

Are you related to Oogone?

Aztek and Oogone are long standing members of the community. You likely are too but wont reveal your true identity because you probably never paid someone back or scammed someone i assume?

[milly6]

hey dev any bounty campaign or airdrop for your project?

What? lol Do you even read?

[Crypto888]

hey dev any bounty campaign or airdrop for your project?

What? lol Do you even read?

         milly6
It is true that you with the STRB you are very strong.