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February 27, 2017, 06:14:49 AM
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Can you really be sure you will profit unless you have insider info?
There is not sure profit in trading but having an insider info depends on how reliable that information it, if that is reliable then for sure we will not need to read the market in order to make a prediction, life will be easy in that case. However, let's face the reality, inside information is hard to get, only those who are big volume holders has the chance to get the info but us typical traders, we just have to read the line or the price movement to make a prediction.

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February 27, 2017, 06:33:45 AM
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Trading is a very risky venture and many amateurs  traders has got their entire risk capital wipe out because of lacks of knowledge on how assets price works. If you have developed your skills and knowledge on how a particular asset work? You can predict that asset to a significant extend. More so you should know and have your money management principle in place in other not to have Your entire capital wiped out.
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February 27, 2017, 06:52:20 AM
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Can you really be sure you will profit unless you have insider info?

in my opinion trading is not just guessing and predicted the price but we need to learn and practice in trading, we need to make our analysis to set buy order and sell order, without doing this, we can not make profit in trading. so make sure that we learn something, doing practice more and more, we need to learn the trend of the coins. there are many thing that we need to learn but we can learn step by step in trading.



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February 27, 2017, 06:57:31 AM
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Trading is a very risky venture and many amateurs  traders has got their entire risk capital wipe out because of lacks of knowledge on how assets price works. If you have developed your skills and knowledge on how a particular asset work? You can predict that asset to a significant extend. More so you should know and have your money management principle in place in other not to have Your entire capital wiped out.
Easier to say that trading is just a game where for you to gain money someone else must get a loss.
Unfortunately being that winner is harder than being that one loser who just lost his money.
We have all these fancy indicators but when I thought about it deeper - if they really working then why we have economic crashes?
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February 27, 2017, 07:03:56 AM
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I have never try to trade. I even don't know what skills a person has to have to become a successful trader. But I think bitcoin and other altcoins are that kind of money which are worth to try to trade, cause of results can be seen very soon.
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February 27, 2017, 07:25:16 AM
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I have never try to trade. I even don't know what skills a person has to have to become a successful trader. But I think bitcoin and other altcoins are that kind of money which are worth to try to trade, cause of results can be seen very soon.
actual knowledge only analyze price is going to happen after you buy. certainly analyze it with a lot of resources. ranging from the volume, the price of the last 24 hours, etc
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February 27, 2017, 08:14:30 AM
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A chart has patterns, a similar behaviour under similar circumstances.
If you know those patterns, it's often possible to predict the developement of a chart.
Sure, it's never 100% certain, but it's a big advantage compared to traders who do not know those patterns.

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February 27, 2017, 08:15:14 AM
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Trading is not just for educated guessing but its more of thinking and analyzing the outcome of what you have observed, and most important is you learned well on what you experience whether bad or good in trading. If you are equipt of enough knowledge and you do have analytical skills of bitcoin market, then profit is always near at you if you also have patience no matter what happens.

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February 27, 2017, 08:39:40 AM
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Can you really be sure you will profit unless you have insider info?
Yes, I am very much sure and I am already making use of my technical analysis to make profits from my bitcoin trading and I am not depending upon any inside information for my profits.

Do not under estimate the guessing works of trading. It is not feasible for all the people. Those who are good in that guessing works makes profits and rest call it gambling.

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February 27, 2017, 08:40:06 AM
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Can you really be sure you will profit unless you have insider info?

Educated guessing, I will agree with you because for someone to make an educated decision then you must have gotten education and the process is not one that is cheap and in the case of gambling, it means thorough understanding and learning of how stocks work, how to know the right time to buy and sell, even insider info is another source of education because being in the right place at the right time is also another form of educated decision.
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February 27, 2017, 11:48:44 AM
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Can you really be sure you will profit unless you have insider info?
With altcoin trading, I agree with the you that I will not be able to make any profits there without any help from inside people. Because only devs and their team are well known about when one particular altcoin is going to be pumped or dumped. I have noticed rapid changes in price levels along with their recommendations.

For bitcoin trading, I have not come across with the any insider information so I'm not sure whether this type of manipulation is existing or not. When considering the 18+ billion dollars market cap of bitcoin markets, I believe there will be no possibility of manipulation by some people.

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February 27, 2017, 12:12:11 PM
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You dont need any insider info specially when you do believe on your skills and knowledge on trading and even if you dont have those infos you still confident that you could able to trade independently without relying anyone. Trading does really require time for you to able to make profits on it.

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February 27, 2017, 12:25:12 PM
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I have never try to trade. I even don't know what skills a person has to have to become a successful trader. But I think bitcoin and other altcoins are that kind of money which are worth to try to trade, cause of results can be seen very soon.
Trading is basically just buying low and selling high just like what ordinary sellers in real life doing until now, although thing works like that there's still some different circumstance that's actually even more complicated than the real trading in the real world.
The price changes are often happening between a short term of time which make it even more profitable but also you may bear the high risk of losing your money.

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February 27, 2017, 01:07:16 PM
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Can you really be sure you will profit unless you have insider info?
There is not sure profit in trading but having an insider info depends on how reliable that information it, if that is reliable then for sure we will not need to read the market in order to make a prediction, life will be easy in that case. However, let's face the reality, inside information is hard to get, only those who are big volume holders has the chance to get the info but us typical traders, we just have to read the line or the price movement to make a prediction.

Well if you are lucky in trading you dont need those information. We only need to invest in diverse coins and sell it higher than we bought it. I have lots of friends who are into trading and they said that the secret to trading is to select a good coins to trade and dont choose shitcoins. Its better to play on the coins like ethereum, dash, monero, etc. who have established its value since you will profit from it and if in any case you want to quit there are buy orders in line to sell your coins.
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February 27, 2017, 01:10:28 PM
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I kinda agree with OP's title that trading is just educated guessing. It is not guessing the price because of just a pure guess but a guess based on analysis and facts. There will be no guaranteed profit even if it is an educated guess OP. A trader is not sure if he/she will earn with his investment since even if it is based on analysis and facts it is just a guess. Even if you have an insider info, there is a chance that you will not earn but at least the chance of you earning from your investment increases when you have an insider info.
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February 27, 2017, 01:24:08 PM
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I don't think so educated guessing won't let you nowhere but mistakes and losses. That is why people are studying Technical Analysis to improve their skill set when it comes to Trading. What people don't know is that Technical Analysis is the study of the Human Emotions, it has psychology in it which it translates charts to what the traders are trying to say. Whether it is to Buy up or Sell down everything can be translated by using Technical Analysis.

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February 27, 2017, 01:53:24 PM
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Can you really be sure you will profit unless you have insider info?
Yes, more or less, trading is an educated guessing. Even though you have an insider informant, who can predict it precisely in the market? At least you have to learn the idea of the coin and whose behind the project (the devs team). Is it something good and people will trigger to invest on the coin? Are they (devs team) trusted?
And then, guess how it will be in the future. But, trading require good analysis and perfect time to buy and sell. However, trading is a game to get profits while others get loss.
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February 27, 2017, 01:56:47 PM
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I don't think so educated guessing won't let you nowhere but mistakes and losses. That is why people are studying Technical Analysis to improve their skill set when it comes to Trading. What people don't know is that Technical Analysis is the study of the Human Emotions, it has psychology in it which it translates charts to what the traders are trying to say. Whether it is to Buy up or Sell down everything can be translated by using Technical Analysis.

TA doesn't work very well in the bitcoin markets, precisely because the market is small, illiquid and therefore prone to manipulation. TA only works in very big deep markets (like the EUR/USD market where billions change hands every hour).

 
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February 27, 2017, 03:42:44 PM
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Guessing won't help in trading, either be it educated or just like that. Trading is not for only luck users, you need to study about the commodity or subject, on which you want to trade and thoroughly analyse it, or else you will just end up in losing. You have to follow the charts, study it, use your skills then place a trading order.
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February 27, 2017, 05:52:54 PM
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I have never try to trade. I even don't know what skills a person has to have to become a successful trader. But I think bitcoin and other altcoins are that kind of money which are worth to try to trade, cause of results can be seen very soon.
Trading is basically just buying low and selling high just like what ordinary sellers in real life doing until now, although thing works like that there's still some different circumstance that's actually even more complicated than the real trading in the real world.
The price changes are often happening between a short term of time which make it even more profitable but also you may bear the high risk of losing your money.
yes trading is depending on buying and selling, but i think education and knowledge is too much helpful in education. i think education may you more mature and let you know what to trade and what not to trad and where to invest from from where to stay away from investment.
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