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April 11, 2017, 06:18:20 PM
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I have NO idea about the legitimacy of this exchange, but apparently they have added TorCoin:

https://coinsmarkets.com/trade-LTC-TOR.htm

I had never heard of this exchange until they messaged me and said they added the coin.  I'd like to get it listed on Poloniex

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April 11, 2017, 06:21:00 PM
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I have NO idea about the legitimacy of this exchange, but apparently they have added TorCoin:

https://coinsmarkets.com/trade-LTC-TOR.htm

I had never heard of this exchange until they messaged me and said they added the coin.  I'd like to get it listed on Poloniex


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April 11, 2017, 06:34:27 PM
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Not entering in dev matters at all. But the point about the Tor trademark seems to be a concern. Anything to say, devs?

This product is produced independently from the Tor® anonymity software and carries no guarantee from The Tor Project about quality, suitability or anything else.

https://www.torproject.org/docs/trademark-faq.html.en

There is a lot of things we can do but there is a bit of some gray areas there. Re-branding I think could definitely be on the project scope, I will discuss more with my partner, it is really his call, Im just the dev.
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April 11, 2017, 06:36:37 PM
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(1) It's not TOR it's Tor, in fact with regards to the actual software it's Tor®

(2) https://www.torproject.org/docs/trademark-faq.html ...   Roll Eyes

"Tor and the Onion Logo are registered trademarks of The Tor Project, Inc."

This 100%. If this coin gets any traction at all, op can expect to get some nasty messages from some lawyers. This is Coinye 2.0

Tor is copyright to Tor, This is Torcoin and the ticker is TOR, Tor is integrated into the codebase, finishing the integration today or tomorrow at latest.

As for the trademarket issue:

I could give a shit!

First off, it is TorCoin [TOR], not Tor.  

Second, it clearly states on the website that TORCOIN has no affiliation with the TOR project.

Third, TorCoin REWARDS people for running a Tor node!  The Tor Project is always trying to get more Tor nodes operational, so they should actually be SUPPORTIVE of this project!

If for some reason the Tor project opposes this project ...

Carsen is just an employee, so he has nothing to worry about.

As for me, I will eventually reveal my identity, and they can send me all the nasty messages they want.  I don't give a shit.  It's a decentralized currency - lawyers can't do shit.  Nobody can shut it down - that is the whole point of decentralized currency.  The most they can do is harass my hosting but ...

I live outside the US, and the hosting is offshore, and I could care less about threats.  

Moral of this story: Trademark concerns do not worry me IN THE LEAST.

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April 11, 2017, 07:14:58 PM
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Stand by folks ... TorCoin to be listed on C-Cex very soon :-)

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April 11, 2017, 07:28:55 PM
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is this coin on bittrex or not ?

no one gives shit about c-cex , go to bittrex

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April 11, 2017, 07:33:23 PM
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is this coin on bittrex or not ?

no one gives shit about c-cex , go to bittrex

Help us get it on Bittrex by Retweeting my Tweet: https://twitter.com/carsenjk/status/851869644436549632

Bittrex was contacted, still awaiting a reply. Coin is barely a day old, most bigger exchanges take time

C-Cex is a decent exchange for the time being, it has proven itself with time that it is a trusted exchange, our goals would be to get onto Poloniex, Bittrex, etc.
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April 11, 2017, 07:38:45 PM
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The coin is good no doubt , I saw the github also .
The ann does not look nice due to new account so we need to solve that
How much is the total supply ?
Premine ?

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ANNOUNCING TORCOIN [TOR] --> THE MOST ANONYMOUS CRYPTOCURRENCY & FULLY INTEGRATED WITH THE TOR NETWORK! Cool


>>>> OFFICIAL THREAD AT http://torcoin.org/forum/index.php?topic=3.0 <<<<<

GITHUB >> https://github.com/carsenk/torcoin

Windows QT >> https://Torcoin.org/TorCoinWindows1.0.zip
Linux QT >> https://mega.nz/#!WUBDxIpa!d9bhkKNuBPz_XVSktsCIksW7aEmHaYhhYJ99sFJzr94
macOS QT (Coming Soon) >>

Block Explorer >> https://chainz.cryptoid.info/tor/

[TOR] Torcoin Mining Pools >>
https://maxminers.net/tor/
https://pool.mn/tor/


For more information about Tor, we are not affiliated with the Tor Project, however Torcoin does feature Tor integration >> http://torproject.org


QUICK FACTS
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---> Torcoin is 100% Anonymous, unlike Bitcoin.  Send & Receive payments with full privacy
---> Torcoin is fully integrated with the TOR network, thereby rewarding TOR node operators
---> Send & Receive encrypted end-to-end messages to other Torcoin users
---> Ultra-fast confirmation times
---> X11 PoW hashing algorithm
---> Easy to mine
---> Compatible with Windows, Linux, and more
---> Android wallet coming soon!

WHAT IS TORCOIN?
>>> Torcoin is a cryptocurrency similar to Bitcoin featuring numerous improvements and innovations, such as full integration with the TOR network, stealth sending technology, and complete anonymity.

WHY USE TORCOIN?
>>> TorCoin offers several important features that Bitcoin does not. First, TorCoin rewards people for running a TOR node. Whereas Bitcoin transactions are completely traceable, TorCoin enables you to send coins anonymously. There is never any need to 'mix' or 'anonymize' your TorCoins - they are anonymous by default. TOR is fully integrated with TorCoin, which means that a snoop or attacker watching your internet connection will not know if you are using TorCoin - and other TorCoin users cannot determine the physical location of your Torcoin node. TorCoin also offers encrypted end-to-end messaging between TorCoin users.

HOW ANONYMOUS IS TORCOIN?
>>> It is the most anonymous cryptocurrency yet developed. Because TOR is integrated with TorCoin, all TorCoin nodes are completely anonymous; no one will ever know that you are running a TorCoin node, or trace your location. TorCoin protects you by re-routing your connection to other TorCoin nodes running TOR.

WHAT CONSENSUS ALGORITHM DOES TORCOIN USE?
>>> Like Bitcoin, TorCoin uses Proof-of-Work, but unlike Bitcoin it is configured to transition to Proof-of-Stake after two years, when small numbers of coins will be issued yearly for staking. Staking will be 5% per year. The advantage of transitioning to Proof-of-Stake is to avoid the centralized mining pools that may eventually threaten Bitcoin with a 51% attack. Most Bitcoin mining has been centralized in China, which is not necessarily a good thing for the currency. Proof-of-Stake is known to discourage centralized mining pools.

HOW MANY COINS WILL BE CREATED?
>>> Twelve million coins will be created during the two-year Proof-of-Work phase, with small emissions of coins issued thereafter for staking purposes. The total number of coins will be less than Bitcoin and significantly less than Ethereum.

IS TORCOIN A PREMINE OR INSTAMINE?
>>> We created the genesis block with approximately 10% of all coins to be issued - around 1.2 million. Whether this qualifies as a 'pre-mine' is up to interpretation. Bitcoin was 'instamined' to the tune of 1 million Bitcoins, while Ethereum was 'pre-sold' in a huge crowdfunding effort at almost 20% of its total issuance. Dash was instamined for 1.9 million coins (27% of the current supply!), although its creator calls it an 'accident' rather than an 'instamine.' Call it whatever you want, but we think allocating 10% of the coins to the creator will be good for the coin for the following reasons: A. The creator has an incentive to push for the coin's success. If the creator had no coins, he may abandon the project entirely. B. The creator has an incentive and financial ability to pay a development team to continue working on the software. C. The creator has the option of 'staking' exchanges to list the coin; essentially offering them a fair amount of TorCoin to list coin on their exchange. Getting a coin listed on multiple exchanges is the key to success of the coin. D. As the coin rises in value, the creator has the financial ability to fund projects related to the expansion of the market for the coin, such as creating exchanges or funding startups.

IS TORCOIN A SCAMCOIN OR PUMP AND DUMP?
>>> No. We believe strongly in anonymity and have developed this coin to help bolster the TOR network by creating more nodes and to increase anonymity in the cryptocurrency space by enabling people to send coins anonymously. While we hope TorCoin rises in value, we are in it for the long haul with TorCoin and have no desire to dump large amounts of the coin on the market.

WHO CREATED TORCOIN?
>>> God. Aliens. Elvis Presley. Who cares? TorCoin is open-sourced and de-centralized; the creator is already irrelevant.

TECHNICAL INFO
>>> Torcoin is a hybrid cryptocurrency utilizing the X11 hashing algorithm (11 rounds of different hashing functions) with the Proof-Of-Work consensus, transitioning to Proof-Of-Stake after 2 years. Torcoin provides full Tor integration with the Tor Onion network. Stealth addresses are available for the anonymous sending of currency through the network. Encrypted messsaging is also available in Torcoin, enabling users to send encrypted messages to other Torcoin users. A total of 12 million TOR will be created before the Proof-Of-Work phase ends and Proof-Of-Stake begins. During the Proof-of-Stake phase, small emissions of coins will be issued each year for the purposes of staking. Staking will be 5% per year. Block Times in the Torcoin network occur at 60 second intervals. The Block Reward schedule is set to halve every 6 months from the start with a reward of 1 TOR per block.

WHY USE TORCOIN?

*** Completely Untraceable
No one will ever know you are running a TorCoin node - your real IP is never broadcast to the network because TorCoin runs over TOR.

*** Anonymous Payments
Using stealth addresses, TorCoin payments are completely anonymous and untraceable by attackers, government agencies or anyone else.

*** Fast Confirmation Times
TorCoin provides extremely rapid confirmation times, meaning you can send and receive funds almost instantly, without the slow confirmation times of Bitcoin.

*** Encrypted End-to-end Messaging
You can send encrypted end-to-end messages to other TorCoin users.

*** Helping the TOR Network
By running TorCoin, you are increasing the number of nodes on the TOR network, and thereby helping people across the world remain anonymous.

Are You Affiliated With the TOR Project?
>>> Not officially, though we are huge supporters of the TOR Project.

What Happened to the Original TORCOIN?
>>> Your guess is as good as ours. There was a TORCOIN developed in 2013 by some graduate students; the project was soon abandoned. The original TORCOIN contained vulnerabilities and poor coding. The new TorCoin bears no resemblance to its predecessor, nor did we use any of the code from the original TorCoin. The 2013 TorCoin is still listed on CoinMarketcap, but it has zero trade volume, a market cap of 9 BTC, and completely outdated code; the project was entirely abandoned. We intend to get our new TorCoin listed and the old TorCoin fully de-listed.

DOES TORCOIN OFFER END-TO-END ENCRYPTED MESSAGING?
>>> Yes! With TorCoin, users can send encrypted end-to-end messages to other TorCoin users.

WILL TORCOIN COMPETE WITH BITCOIN?
>>> We believe Bitcoin to be the GOLD STANDARD of cryptocurrency, much like gold is - literally - the gold standard of metals. Silver, Palladium and Platinum all have value - they just don't have as much value as gold. Bitcoin is the crypto against which all other cryptos should be - and will always be - measured. TorCoin is not intended to 'compete' with Bitcoin, but TorCoin offers certain features that Bitcoin notably lacks, such as integration with TOR, encrypted end-to-end messaging between TorCoin users, untraceable payments and fast confirmation times. We hope TorCoin becomes a useful cryptocurrency for those concerned about personal privacy online. Because of its native anonymity, TorCoin offers a much better alternative than Bitcoin for many activities.

WILL TORCOIN PROVE VULNERABLE TO 51% ATTACKS OR CENTRALIZED MINING POOLS?
>>> We hope not. Because TorCoin will transition to a Proof-of-Stake consensus after two years, centralization of mining will be less appealing, and 51% attacks will therefore prove more challenging. Mining centralization and the potential for 51% attacks are a major weakness of Bitcoin's Proof-of-Work consensus model, which has led to centralization of mining in China (due to bottoming electricity costs) and even the mining company Ghash.io controlling more than 51% of mining for a brief moment, sparking fears of an attack.

WHAT SETS TORCOIN APART FROM OTHER CRYPTOS?
>>> Unlike most other cryptos (excluding Monero and a few others), TorCoin offers completely anonymous sending. Apart from all other cryptos, TorCoin is fully integrated with TOR and therefore 100% anonymous; an attacker or government snoop can never see if you are running a TorCoin node or not. Your IP address is therefore never broadcast on TorCoin. Unlike Bitcoin and some of the older currencies, TorCoin offers much faster confirmation times, meaning you can send and receive funds almost instantly. TorCoin is also designed to transition to Proof-of-Stake consensus, meaning it will discourage centralized mining pools from cropping up, which is a major problem for Bitcoin and other exclusively proof-of-work currencies. TorCoin also offers encrypted end-to-end messaging between TorCoin users. And finally .. we think the name is just really cool :-)

FUTURE DEVELOPMENT
>>> The major focus on future development will be improvement of end-usability of the coin (making it easier for average people to use), smoothly transitioning to Proof of Stake (possibly incorporating Serenity/Casper), development of an Android wallet, and improving efficiency of the network online.

IS TORCOIN OPEN SOURCE?
>>> Of course. https://github.com/carsenk/torcoin

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April 11, 2017, 07:42:19 PM
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The coin is good no doubt , I saw the github also .
The ann does not look nice due to new account so we need to solve that
How much is the total supply ?
Premine ?


Thanks man, I remember you from back in the day, your an OG Tongue

Yea I will get with my partner on sprucing it all up, the github needs some cleaning as well, more so I am just busy right now working on our own block explorer and finishing up the Tor integration (which I feel is a bit more important)

Total Supply in realtime: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/tor/api.dws?q=circulating

Premine is 10% (1.2m TOR), There should be approx. around 12m TOR in circulation total after the PoW phase, which lasts several years.
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(1) It's not TOR it's Tor, in fact with regards to the actual software it's Tor®

(2) https://www.torproject.org/docs/trademark-faq.html ...   Roll Eyes

"Tor and the Onion Logo are registered trademarks of The Tor Project, Inc."

This 100%. If this coin gets any traction at all, op can expect to get some nasty messages from some lawyers. This is Coinye 2.0

Tor is copyright to Tor, This is Torcoin and the ticker is TOR, Tor is integrated into the codebase, finishing the integration today or tomorrow at latest.

As for the trademarket issue:

I could give a shit!

First off, it is TorCoin [TOR], not Tor. 

Second, it clearly states on the website that TORCOIN has no affiliation with the TOR project.

Third, TorCoin REWARDS people for running a Tor node!  The Tor Project is always trying to get more Tor nodes operational, so they should actually be SUPPORTIVE of this project!

If for some reason the Tor project opposes this project ...

Carsen is just an employee, so he has nothing to worry about.

As for me, I will eventually reveal my identity, and they can send me all the nasty messages they want.  I don't give a shit.  It's a decentralized currency - lawyers can't do shit.  Nobody can shut it down - that is the whole point of decentralized currency.  The most they can do is harass my hosting but ...

I live outside the US, and the hosting is offshore, and I could care less about threats. 

Moral of this story: Trademark concerns do not worry me IN THE LEAST.
Okay so no care about that.
Where else can you list the coin, maybe you should consider yobit as they add coins a s quick as possible and then work out to the rest of the exchanges like c-cex and cryptopia. This is we could begin to see how much its price and decide whether your roadmap is worth buying or not.

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(1) It's not TOR it's Tor, in fact with regards to the actual software it's Tor®

(2) https://www.torproject.org/docs/trademark-faq.html ...   Roll Eyes

"Tor and the Onion Logo are registered trademarks of The Tor Project, Inc."

This 100%. If this coin gets any traction at all, op can expect to get some nasty messages from some lawyers. This is Coinye 2.0

Tor is copyright to Tor, This is Torcoin and the ticker is TOR, Tor is integrated into the codebase, finishing the integration today or tomorrow at latest.

As for the trademarket issue:

I could give a shit!

First off, it is TorCoin [TOR], not Tor. 

Second, it clearly states on the website that TORCOIN has no affiliation with the TOR project.

Third, TorCoin REWARDS people for running a Tor node!  The Tor Project is always trying to get more Tor nodes operational, so they should actually be SUPPORTIVE of this project!

If for some reason the Tor project opposes this project ...

Carsen is just an employee, so he has nothing to worry about.

As for me, I will eventually reveal my identity, and they can send me all the nasty messages they want.  I don't give a shit.  It's a decentralized currency - lawyers can't do shit.  Nobody can shut it down - that is the whole point of decentralized currency.  The most they can do is harass my hosting but ...

I live outside the US, and the hosting is offshore, and I could care less about threats. 

Moral of this story: Trademark concerns do not worry me IN THE LEAST.
Okay so no care about that.
Where else can you list the coin, maybe you should consider yobit as they add coins a s quick as possible and then work out to the rest of the exchanges like c-cex and cryptopia. This is we could begin to see how much its price and decide whether your roadmap is worth buying or not.

Yea Yobit is a good exchange, we can look into submitting Torcoin there as well. C-Cex is adding TOR right now, they should be posting in this thread once trading is live.
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April 11, 2017, 08:02:31 PM
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yobit is a shit exchange .

I see the coin has potential .
Who is the dev ?? Bitcointalk account ?
So I can help him setting the infrastructure for the coin in later part and don't try yobit it is shit

Yobit = yoshit
Scam exchange 

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April 11, 2017, 08:34:09 PM
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(1) It's not TOR it's Tor, in fact with regards to the actual software it's Tor®

(2) https://www.torproject.org/docs/trademark-faq.html ...   Roll Eyes

"Tor and the Onion Logo are registered trademarks of The Tor Project, Inc."

This 100%. If this coin gets any traction at all, op can expect to get some nasty messages from some lawyers. This is Coinye 2.0

Tor is copyright to Tor, This is Torcoin and the ticker is TOR, Tor is integrated into the codebase, finishing the integration today or tomorrow at latest.

I'd just like to clarify to you that integrating the actual Tor® software into your "Torcoin" wallet is where the potential issue might arise.

... "Creating a new brand that incorporates the Tor brand is likely to lead to confusion, and commercial confusion is a sign of trademark infringement." ...

Crypto currencies that have previously built Tor connectivity directly into the wallet, such as Stealthcoin, were not named "Torcoin" nor did they use the ticker "TOR" or the onion logo.

...

The Tor Project, Inc. have previously discussed 'incentive mechanisms', (as a way to reward Relay and Exit node operators) for some years;

See: - https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-par-braids-lira-tears-and-torcoin - N.B. that the TorCoin mentioned in some research papers is not related to the coin of this thread, by my understanding.

Incentive mechanisms relating to bandwidth have known privacy implications. If you are preposing to force wallets to act as Tor Relays or Exit nodes (which is not cool), then is it only the wallets staking balance which would provide a 'reward' ? As this cannot solve a 'nothing to stake' conundrum for new relays over time, for example.

...

My intention is certainly not to 'troll' your thread and I have both interest and concerns here. If you are serious, you should perhaps contact The Tor Project, Inc. directly. That is what they are advising on their own website.

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(1) It's not TOR it's Tor, in fact with regards to the actual software it's Tor®

(2) https://www.torproject.org/docs/trademark-faq.html ...   Roll Eyes

"Tor and the Onion Logo are registered trademarks of The Tor Project, Inc."

This 100%. If this coin gets any traction at all, op can expect to get some nasty messages from some lawyers. This is Coinye 2.0

Tor is copyright to Tor, This is Torcoin and the ticker is TOR, Tor is integrated into the codebase, finishing the integration today or tomorrow at latest.

As for the trademarket issue:

I could give a shit!

First off, it is TorCoin [TOR], not Tor.  

Second, it clearly states on the website that TORCOIN has no affiliation with the TOR project.

Third, TorCoin REWARDS people for running a Tor node!  The Tor Project is always trying to get more Tor nodes operational, so they should actually be SUPPORTIVE of this project!

If for some reason the Tor project opposes this project ...

Carsen is just an employee, so he has nothing to worry about.

As for me, I will eventually reveal my identity, and they can send me all the nasty messages they want.  I don't give a shit.  It's a decentralized currency - lawyers can't do shit.  Nobody can shut it down - that is the whole point of decentralized currency.  The most they can do is harass my hosting but ...

I live outside the US, and the hosting is offshore, and I could care less about threats.  

Moral of this story: Trademark concerns do not worry me IN THE LEAST.
Okay so no care about that.
Where else can you list the coin, maybe you should consider yobit as they add coins a s quick as possible and then work out to the rest of the exchanges like c-cex and cryptopia. This is we could begin to see how much its price and decide whether your roadmap is worth buying or not.

U are missing the point. Yobit is sensitive to trademark issues. They will reject it as a law-breaking case. In the worst case scenario they will accept it and I will have to pay them a sum of money for delisting of tor. As soon as they delist it I will be sent an invoice with btc address attached to it to which I will send the bribe. Tor should be halted for now.

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April 11, 2017, 08:47:44 PM
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I agree , please contact Tor and also  u need to change the name of the coin a bit .
We have legal issues here

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April 11, 2017, 08:49:56 PM
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I agree , please contact Tor and also  u need to change the name of the coin a bit .
We have legal issues here

We will contact them. I am just the dev, I can't speak for my partner though.

C-Cex Trading just went live! https://c-cex.com/?p=tor-btc
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April 11, 2017, 08:57:24 PM
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I have added Torcoin to https://pool.coin-miners.info/  connection settings: ./sgminer -k x11 -o stratum+tcp://stratum-eu.coin-miners.info:3533 -u WALLET_ADDRESS -p c=TOR

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April 11, 2017, 08:57:55 PM
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I agree , please contact Tor and also  u need to change the name of the coin a bit .
We have legal issues here

We will contact them. I am just the dev, I can't speak for my partner though.

C-Cex Trading just went live! https://c-cex.com/?p=tor-btc

As a dev, you are just as legally responsible as anyone else involved with the coin. I hope you can afford a good lawyer.
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April 11, 2017, 08:58:43 PM
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coin is good but u need to change certain things :/

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