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May 06, 2013, 06:09:30 PM |
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Because, although not announced yet, we'll offer the warranty that if they do not recover the money in 6 months, we will replace them with ASICs that will.
Wow, wish I had ordered more. |
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bitpop
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May 06, 2013, 06:14:17 PM |
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Hope I get to pay for 20
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May 06, 2013, 06:14:37 PM |
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Fine by me, do we wait for an e-mail, or how do we pay in bitcoins?
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May 06, 2013, 06:19:02 PM |
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Fine by me, do we wait for an e-mail, or how do we pay in bitcoins?
got an email, but there are no instructions how to pay in bitcoin (without escrow) |
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blackarrow (OP)
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May 06, 2013, 06:30:26 PM |
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got an email, but there are no instructions how to pay in bitcoin (without escrow)
I knew I forgot something: If you wish to pay with bitcoins please reply to the email you've received from us and we'll send you a bitcoin address. |
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Xialla
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May 06, 2013, 06:31:03 PM |
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Why would anyone buy this?
It will never pay for itself.
Even at the current difficulty, it would take more than 6 months to make your money back.
And the difficulty is only going to increase, A LOT in the next couple of months.
These units won't pay for their own power in a month or two.
Because, although not announced yet, we'll offer the warranty that if they do not recover the money in 6 months, we will replace them with ASICs that will. hope that this warrant is valid also for already sell products. |
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cimpex
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May 06, 2013, 06:39:05 PM |
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got an email, but there are no instructions how to pay in bitcoin (without escrow)
I knew I forgot something: If you wish to pay with bitcoins please reply to the email you've received from us and we'll send you a bitcoin address. done, thanks! |
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Beaflag VonRathburg
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May 06, 2013, 06:40:56 PM |
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Just a quick update. We're sending everybody who've placed orders and have not yet paid this message. We think it is the fairest thing to do right now. We welcome useful suggestions.
We have an update for your order:
We will have in stock 50 x Lancelot devices on Friday but this is not enough to complete all our backlog. For this reason you might not get the order in time.
You can now pay your order but if you do so you agree to the following conditions:
We will ship the orders on first paid, first shipped basis.
If we've sold all the above stock and you have not paid by then, we will put your order status back on "Backordered"
If your payment arrives after we've sold this stock you can ask for a refund immediatelly (you will cover all the refund or exchange fees where aplicable - none for Bitcoin) or you can let us know by next Monday how long you are willing to wait for your order to be shipped. Based on this information we will organize our parts order to ensure that we can fulfill your order.
Once you've commited to a shipping date, and we've accepted it, your refund will be available only after that date if we fail to ship it.
Although we accept escrow payments we will favorize all other payment methods but escrow. This means that if you choose to pay with bitcoin escrow, you will only receive your order once we've cleared our backlog of all other orders paid through different payment methods.
Your order is on hold as we are waiting for the payment.
This doesn't seem shady to anyone? Nevermind, what we said before about escrow services, please pay us now to receive your order eventually. When, we can't tell you, but we'll let you know. As the organizer of a 163 unit order, paying customers would constantly bump our large order to the end of the line because we are requesting escrow service. Receiving inadequate stock of xilinx units as infrequent as 50 at a time with no certain time line for more, guarantees never being able to supply the units in a timely manner. Paying orders would stack up ahead of us faster than they can send them out the door due to inadequate stock of xilinx units. Combine those two factors and we'd end up waiting at absolute minimum a month to receive units and possibly longer. |
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blackarrow (OP)
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May 06, 2013, 06:54:51 PM |
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hope that this warrant is valid also for already sell products.
Yes, it is. |
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bitpop
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May 06, 2013, 06:58:12 PM |
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Yeah they sell card skimmers. But they do have a legit purpose, sometimes.
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blackarrow (OP)
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May 06, 2013, 07:06:51 PM |
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Mr. Silvasurfa has not placed an order with our company and has started posting random messages on boards because he was bored. I do not think he has used zolknet at that time because we do not reply or deal with criminals. Back then we have contacted him and asked him why is he posting these messages, how we have done wrong and how we can fix the issue. He confessed that he has never placed an order with us (to the day we still don't know why he has done this). To cut the story short, in the end he has bought from us and has received his order. In this forum, you can read read few posts below another message of his. I will quote it here: http://www.electro-tech-online.com/electronic-projects-design-ideas-reviews/90591-magstrip-reader-bluetooth-msrv007-bluesmirf.html11th July 2009 05:23 PM #6
Silvasurfa
I take back everything i said about this company and product, it is an honest business with a true and repsectable product, i was far to harsh due to being ripped off by someone offering the same product...this works... as for zero man, you could not be further from the truth son............. In the end there are always people that wish to do you harm or that are "too paranoid". Even in this forum, few pages before somebody said that this is a scam and we posted proof that we are not and addressed all his issues. We are still waiting for his apologies. We stay away from zoklet.net as the people from there have tried (unsuccessfully I might say) to buy our products to use for illegal purposes. Regards! |
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May 06, 2013, 07:08:13 PM |
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Mr. Silvasurfa has not placed an order with our company and has started posting random messages on boards because he was bored. I do not think he has used zolknet at that time because we do not reply or deal with criminals. Back then we have contacted him and asked him why is he posting these messages, how we have done wrong and how we can fix the issue. He confessed that he has never placed an order with us (to the day we still don't know why he has done this). To cut the story short, in the end he has bought from us and has received his order. In this forum, you can read read few posts below another message of his. I will quote it here: http://www.electro-tech-online.com/electronic-projects-design-ideas-reviews/90591-magstrip-reader-bluetooth-msrv007-bluesmirf.html11th July 2009 05:23 PM #6
Silvasurfa
I take back everything i said about this company and product, it is an honest business with a true and repsectable product, i was far to harsh due to being ripped off by someone offering the same product...this works... as for zero man, you could not be further from the truth son............. In the end there are always people that wish to do you harm or that are "too paranoid". Even in this forum, few pages before somebody said that this is a scam and we posted proof that we are not and addressed all his issues. We are still waiting for his apologies. We stay away from zoklet.net as the people from there have tried (unsuccessfully I might say) to buy our products to use for illegal purposes. Regards! ok thanks! |
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Beaflag VonRathburg
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May 06, 2013, 07:10:43 PM |
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You're the only person who's received a unit, joined the forums roughly two weeks ago, and 4 days before blackarrow. You being a puppet account is still up in the air. |
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bitpop
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May 06, 2013, 07:11:07 PM |
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I apologize.
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blackarrow (OP)
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May 06, 2013, 07:15:56 PM |
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BByte LTD is our reseller in UK. Please read this page: http://www.cardreaderfactory.com/shop/about-us.htmlyet the website says british virgin islands (same company), googled the phone number from this website, got to http://www.qype.co.uk/place/2563381-CardReaderFactory-Reading ? Now a web design company works on the same phone number, for a company, with the same domain / name as a company in Virgin Islands, and I still dont quite understand the post above. All the customers are dealing with Merlion Holdings (BVI) and Black Arrow has a contract with Merlion to supply the merchandise. Merlion is not affiliated with BByte LTD from UK. |
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May 06, 2013, 07:17:34 PM |
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You're the only person who's received a unit, joined the forums roughly two weeks ago, and 4 days before blackarrow. You being a puppet account is still up in the air. honestly, I'm not here for cover somebody or as you said "puppet account". If you don't believe me, honestly don't care. Just say in, that I just already receive my boards. And yes, I'm new to this forum, but my acc. on main Czech Rep. bitcoin forum bitcash.cz ( https://bitcash.cz/forum/member.php?s=a7c5379b573e471606ca3668eb1853fb&action=getinfo&userid=1011) is older and I'm also verified here. Please stop thinking like paranoid kid. Thanks a lot. |
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