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July 10, 2017, 04:49:41 AM
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diff just spiked to 70k a few mins ago , I think we will see 100k eth diff by september .. fun times  Cool
That is a TON of GPUs... to be sold on the market soon.
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July 10, 2017, 05:10:29 AM
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@ Citronick, What CPU would you recommend for that board? i3, i5?
ram? I'm thinking about getting one too.
Thanks for any info.
Chili
 

does look cool a 13 card board.

I have to think use  an i5  6400t  but not sure.

Wouldnt you need like an i7? i wouldnt think the i3 and i5 have enough pcie bandwidth... my understandings is each 1x pcie slot reserves 2 channels on pcie controller..... the motherboard may be compatible with the lower cpu's but do they have enough channels to fully use the motherboard fully??

ive read that i3 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i5 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i7 with 28 channels can only support up to 14 gpu's max



Hi
I have several rigs with msi z97 gaming 5, all with 7 amd gpu, so i decided to build a rig with 7 nvidia gpu with this type of mobo, it detected all 7 gpus in device manager but one gpu has error code 12 ( not enough resource), it is not to mention that it tried everything in bios also i replaced some gtx 1070 with gtx 970 because of one post i read in this forum about difference between amd and nvidia in  pcie lane handling in among of gpus memory, no success at all, cpu was g3260 and i tried both win 7 and 10, i don't know what is difference between amd and nvidia here!

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July 10, 2017, 05:28:20 AM
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diff just spiked to 70k a few mins ago , I think we will see 100k eth diff by september .. fun times  Cool

wow you realy in september we can see 100000 ETH...
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July 10, 2017, 05:37:27 AM
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diff just spiked to 70k a few mins ago , I think we will see 100k eth diff by september .. fun times  Cool

wow you realy in september we can see 100000 ETH...

well just doing the math, seems we are adding 10000-12000 diff per month and with vega cumming soon, there should be some new cards to buy before those get snapped up

as I speak now diff is steady at 71,000  up 11k this month alone , before we surmised that the shortage of cards would slow down difficulty, this theory has proven to be blatantly false

since we see diff is always going up, in the absence of any data to the contrary it seems some people have access to mass amount of cards and they will need to keep adding hash to make

up for the loss of income from the price drops and diff , slower block times etc.   

Diff will keep going higher this is truly fascinating to watch, Im power tapped  but I have almost 100 gpus sitting idle due to heat issues , I wont turn them on till winter around October , meanwhile I'm selling

them on ebay as well since they are of no use to me sitting idle.  I would never have imagined the diff could grow 10k per moth but I think we are just seeing the start of this from all indications.

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July 10, 2017, 05:38:04 AM
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diff just spiked to 70k a few mins ago , I think we will see 100k eth diff by september .. fun times  Cool

wow you realy in september we can see 100000 ETH...

100,000 eth difficulty man not 100,000 price eth LOL

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July 10, 2017, 07:33:44 AM
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im curious what is going to happen when the BTC upgrades, im under the understanding that a new HARD FORK is being created for it....
no joke right there.

If we can't get our way the legit way, we will force it on everyone.....   the core team has lost their minds with this mentality.   Destroying bitcoin.  Going against it's core principles... one as basic as consensus....  It's sad... Truly sad.   They lost a LOT of respect in my eyes.

This hardfork is going to cause some serious waves......

I may shift to cash to ride this out.



Hi Phillip,

I have all BTC on Electrum and I'm not sure what to do Sad
Looks like someone went full retard and decided to split BTC Sad

I have no clue how to split BTC and there is one article from Electrum site as to what to do but they are talking about Linux and I would rather kill myself than touch that nonsense system.

Should I just quickly download Bitcoin core and transfer all BTC there or sell all coins I'm holding since 2013 ?
(It's sad to see end of the bitcoin after all those years)

Thank you for help  

depends on how many coins you have.
if you are looking to cash  10 coins or more  you may be taxed

More than that but I'm in EU so that would not apply to me .?

I think this is good advice:
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/a-beginners-guide-to-surviving-a-coin-split-cm764421

TLDR;
1. Control your private keys.
2. To be on the safe side, avoid any transactions shortly after the split.
3. As the dust settles, split your coins. How, exactly, will depend on Bitcoin's post-fork landscape.

Basically make sure you have control of your wallet(s), don't panic then wait a while to see what happens. The value may drop as the shitstorm settles down but imho it will return to current levels or higher. Remember where it was a couple of years ago!

In a recent meeting with my group, to manage the risk of this BTC fork come 1st AUG.... will be moving a large BTC position to ETH and Litecoin.

We also have concluded that there will be panic selling but BTC will rise up above 3K soon enough.... (past case ETH vs ETC), we will monitoring this situation and may buy BTC if it dips below 1700.

I've been thinking about ways to hedge for the fork without going to cash as well.
Has anyone used Vaultoro? It's an exchange where you can switch from BTC to gold. The downside is it's a centralized exchange so it wouldn't be wise to put to much on it.
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July 10, 2017, 08:15:30 AM
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@ Citronick, What CPU would you recommend for that board? i3, i5?
ram? I'm thinking about getting one too.
Thanks for any info.
Chili
 

does look cool a 13 card board.

I have to think use  an i5  6400t  but not sure.

Wouldnt you need like an i7? i wouldnt think the i3 and i5 have enough pcie bandwidth... my understandings is each 1x pcie slot reserves 2 channels on pcie controller..... the motherboard may be compatible with the lower cpu's but do they have enough channels to fully use the motherboard fully??

ive read that i3 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i5 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i7 with 28 channels can only support up to 14 gpu's max



Hi
I have several rigs with msi z97 gaming 5, all with 7 amd gpu, so i decided to build a rig with 7 nvidia gpu with this type of mobo, it detected all 7 gpus in device manager but one gpu has error code 12 ( not enough resource), it is not to mention that it tried everything in bios also i replaced some gtx 1070 with gtx 970 because of one post i read in this forum about difference between amd and nvidia in  pcie lane handling in among of gpus memory, no success at all, cpu was g3260 and i tried both win 7 and 10, i don't know what is difference between amd and nvidia here!

add more ram  are you 4gb?  add  a 4 gb stick


as for hedging  I sold 1.3 btc today  I will keep it as cash.

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July 10, 2017, 09:08:37 AM
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Hi people,
Hello,
I'm having issues with Nicehash Miner 1.7.5.13 and also with 2.0.0.7. Same problem with every miner: after changing one or two algorythm, it freezes, crashes (restart) or even BSOD with Driver_IRQL_OR_LESS.
If I'm mining with only one algo selected on every gpu and not trying to switch, it works just fine, stable for hours and even days. Alpha version crashes sometimes, with .13 version works like charm. Eh, when I enable more algos and try to switch (I should mention I've tried with profitability at 0.07 and 0.1, which means it switch at 10% difference) it crashes as said above.

I've read on other places, reddit, nicehash issues on github that other people are having these issues. I've tried with two different drivers, not being latest.

OS: Win10 creators update with latest updates
GPU: 3x Asus GTX 1060 Dual and 3x Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce, all six with 6GB. A bit of overclock is done, +128 core and +196 memory. 100% power limit.
Driver 378.49
PSU: 2x Seasonic 850W

What could be the issue in your opinion?
Regards,
John
With so much going on, I think this maybe got overlooked.
Have often seen Phil advise not to try and put too many gpus on the one mobo - maybe that's at fault here.
Could you advise: which motherboard, processor; ram quantity

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I was looking at maybe mining spread coin.  It is a pain to mine its a bit like ETH where you have to have the whole blockchain downloaded.  And then you have to only solo mine to your wallet, so there is a bit of luck involved, you need one wallet per rig also.  It didn't seem to be working when I tried but the blockchain wasn't downloaded yet so I will try again tonight.

Anyone mining this and have any thoughts or tips on how to actually get it going.  The threads on it have a guy with an enhanced miner wanting upfront BTC to get his miner,  just not sure about that incase its only a fad to mine it for a few weeks.?  the price looks really good and I saw that it is up another 20% today!
I bought it - I would not recommend it. Unstable, buggy, it does mine faster, but the high variance on spread makes it meh. I'm seeing less profit vs skein.

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July 10, 2017, 12:49:42 PM
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Hi people,
Hello,
I'm having issues with Nicehash Miner 1.7.5.13 and also with 2.0.0.7. Same problem with every miner: after changing one or two algorythm, it freezes, crashes (restart) or even BSOD with Driver_IRQL_OR_LESS.
If I'm mining with only one algo selected on every gpu and not trying to switch, it works just fine, stable for hours and even days. Alpha version crashes sometimes, with .13 version works like charm. Eh, when I enable more algos and try to switch (I should mention I've tried with profitability at 0.07 and 0.1, which means it switch at 10% difference) it crashes as said above.

I've read on other places, reddit, nicehash issues on github that other people are having these issues. I've tried with two different drivers, not being latest.

OS: Win10 creators update with latest updates
GPU: 3x Asus GTX 1060 Dual and 3x Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce, all six with 6GB. A bit of overclock is done, +128 core and +196 memory. 100% power limit.
Driver 378.49
PSU: 2x Seasonic 850W

What could be the issue in your opinion?
Regards,
John
With so much going on, I think this maybe got overlooked.
Have often seen Phil advise not to try and put too many gpus on the one mobo - maybe that's at fault here.
Could you advise: which motherboard, processor; ram quantity

Switching is very tough on gear.  And you are at 100% tdp  which I think  is terrible  use of power.

just  drop tdp to 85%  core to 100 and ram to 150

Here is a simple reason  switching is hard.

eth likes 100 core and 300 memory
zec likes 200 core       and 0 memory

So if you switch back and forth   set at   128 core and 196 memory  when you are on eth   the settings are okay  but on zec the settings are less then ideal

  if you have five algos  most likely only one or two match your settings well and the other 3 are less then ideal.   So at 100% tdp  you magnify  the less then ideal settings.  plus you could be switching  a lot.
So back off on tdp core memory clock

Also make it switch at 15%  not 10%   so  that less switching occurs.

85%    not 100% ======= tdp
100     not 128    >>>>>>> core
150    not  196    ======= memory

15%   not 10%   >>>>>>>  switch time




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July 10, 2017, 01:02:27 PM
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Going to sell some BTC today... Most of it to cash. But for some of the fractions I'll get some alt-crumbs. Already own a few Sia and DGB, but curious to hear what some knowledgable people here would recommend with the upcoming forks...
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Going to sell some BTC today... Most of it to cash. But for some of the fractions I'll get some alt-crumbs. Already own a few Sia and DGB, but curious to hear what some knowledgable people here would recommend with the upcoming forks...

Maybe zer and uno

Zer is on a New Zealand exchange

Uno is on bittrex.


I have 548 in ebucks to spend by August 2.

Was going to get one more 1080 ti.

I may get three bars of silver instead.

I cashed 1.3 btc in.

I am updating an empty core 11 wallet to a core 14.
It should synch by Tuesday.

It is on a Mac mini.
Once it synchs I will clone it with super duper.  Boot the clone and check that it works.

Put 2 btc into that wallet.  Since it seems that I could be on both sides of the fork with a core wallet.

May be some free coin after the fork if I do this.

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July 10, 2017, 02:41:34 PM
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i may unload some btc for usd/eth/ltc, but not a lot.  i also have some cash reserved for picking up on any good dips however it goes.

figure if btc  splits ill see whats up at that point.
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July 10, 2017, 10:25:11 PM
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There is quite a bit of wisdom and experience in this thread, so I'll ask for some guidance.

I have around 10 GPUs in my garage, which will be 28 soon. The garage has two small windows (both 8-inch x 13-inch). I need to put some exhaust fan on one of the windows, but it's too small to fit a large enough window fan.

I'm trying to find a way to make a cone or some kind of air duct tunnel that will attach to 16 inch radius window fan on one end and to 8x13 window opening on the other end, with some efficient exhaust. Any ideas how to make such apparatus? Semi rigid air duct? what to use for end attachments? Any ideas?
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There is quite a bit of wisdom and experience in this thread, so I'll ask for some guidance.

I have around 10 GPUs in my garage, which will be 28 soon. The garage has two small windows (both 8-inch x 13-inch). I need to put some exhaust fan on one of the windows, but it's too small to fit a large enough window fan.

I'm trying to find a way to make a cone or some kind of air duct tunnel that will attach to 16 inch radius window fan on one end and to 8x13 window opening on the other end, with some efficient exhaust. Any ideas how to make such apparatus? Semi rigid air duct? what to use for end attachments? Any ideas?

you need to shoot a photo or 2  

there are some good ten inch fans around

I would  show you links  give me time


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Audio-Single-10-In-Sealed-Subwoofer-Enclosure-Bass-Stereo-Sub-Speaker-Box/311553600581?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMAIR-CLE2T2-ROTRON-FAN-WIRED-GRILL-115V-48-50-A-10-031506-50HZ-60HZ-031506-/222544011612?


look at this idea  fan to box  box has a second hole cut by you  8 by 13

fan>>  box>>> window

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well just doing the math, seems we are adding 10000-12000 diff per month and with vega cumming soon, there should be some new cards to buy before those get snapped up


 I don't see VEGA having a noticeable effect on ETH mining - same reason the Fury is not much used for ETH, the HBM memory latancy kills the hashrate.
 I DO see a high probability of VEGA being a good mining card for some OTHER stuff though, like ZEC.



 For the small windows - build an air box around them, probably need to use 2x6 or so, with the box being a little larger than the size of your fans - no need to get fancy.
 Then cover the end of the box with plywood, and cut a hole in it to fit the fan.
 Your airflow is still going to be limited by the size of the windows though - and 28 GPUs is probably still going to run pretty hot even if you use a high-end gable fan (there are 16" gable fans rated for 3000+ CFM, and they're designed to handle SOME backpressure in most usage.

 The Rotron fan Phil linked should be a good, reliable unit - I've had Rotron fans go 20+ YEARS in 24/7 usage without issues, and I've got ONE of them that's pushing 35 years old now, and just STARTING to see some bearing wearout problems. I just don't think 455 CFM is going to be nearly enough to handle the number of GPUs you're talking about.


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well just doing the math, seems we are adding 10000-12000 diff per month and with vega cumming soon, there should be some new cards to buy before those get snapped up


 I don't see VEGA having a noticeable effect on ETH mining - same reason the Fury is not much used for ETH, the HBM memory latancy kills the hashrate.
 I DO see a high probability of VEGA being a good mining card for some OTHER stuff though, like ZEC.



 For the small windows - build an air box around them, probably need to use 2x6 or so, with the box being a little larger than the size of your fans - no need to get fancy.
 Then cover the end of the box with plywood, and cut a hole in it to fit the fan.
 Your airflow is still going to be limited by the size of the windows though - and 28 GPUs is probably still going to run pretty hot even if you use a high-end gable fan (there are 16" gable fans rated for 3000+ CFM, and they're designed to handle SOME backpressure in most usage.

 The Rotron fan Phil linked should be a good, reliable unit - I've had Rotron fans go 20+ YEARS in 24/7 usage without issues, and I've got ONE of them that's pushing 35 years old now, and just STARTING to see some bearing wearout problems.[ b]I just don't think 455 CFM is going to be nearly enough to handle the number of GPUs you're talking about.[/b]



you are right  but he has 2 windows  so 2 of the 10 inch fans may do it.

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