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June 11, 2017, 05:16:40 PM
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on a fence to buy evga 1070s. I can choose between sc, sc black, sc2, FE.
Any suggestion which one I should go with? I searched up a bit and heard you cannot control fan speed on sc2.. Anyone knows if it is true for sc2?

I own none of them.
I know they are very good on warranty service with the few pus's I killed 3 of 30 went dead.   2 on a bad mobo the other was pushed for a few years.

Back to your questions.

the sc
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-248-_-Product

the sc black

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA98C5DB8718&cm_re=evga_sc_black_1070-_-14-487-265-_-Product

the sc 2

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487320&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-320-_-Product

the fe or founders

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6H5ES5360&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-247-_-Product


the prices above are not accurate since the founders is build sold at a crazy high price  by a reseller

they all have a 3 year warranty

they all have a 1594 clock for core except for founders which has 1508

a lower start clock can be helpful if you are in a hot spot and want to clock low.

I like blower style the found is just that.

If I were buying them I would get the founder because of the blower style.  but not at the high price I linked to above.

In your case  do you want quiet ones and will you have a lot of space between with a riser build  get the cheapest 2 fan model.  if one of them has locked fans do not get it .  miners do not want or need or should ever use auto fan settings.
manual is better to mine with.

I have a lot of space but would prefer quiet model as it will be in my house. also in pretty cold location.

and yes the fan is my real concern. I am just not sure which model has locked fans or not. I just heard randomly on some website sc2 has lock fans and cannot adjust fan speed manually. Have you tried aorus or zotac amp edition 1070s? I dont mind price being little high, just looking for something that will run stable with fan control and good hashrate as I am planning to build only 1 rig.


My least favorite 1080ti is the MSI 2 fan model - the stupid thing blows air INTO the case, NOT out. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen - who the fuck designed it to do that?! "We can exhaust the air out of the case through the expansion slot... OR... Eureka! Let's make it blow the hot air in the other direction and into the case!"

I dont know about 1070's but on my 1080Ti EVGA SC2's afterburner adjusts the fan speed perfectly fine, and they are actually 1 of my favorite cards for now.
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June 11, 2017, 05:43:47 PM
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miners do not want or need or should ever use auto fan settings.
manual is better to mine with.

Phillip, can you explain more on this? i ask because i have been running air rigs on auto and just locking the temp to adjust to...just trying to get the understanding why you recommend it

Also another question.. how do yall order multiple GPU's? i ordered 2 on ebay from newegg and 2 on newegg and they voided one of the orders with statement "ordered more than 2 per person, voided per policy guidelines....."

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Last edit: June 11, 2017, 06:19:17 PM by philipma1957
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Waves seem to be a very viable option, during waves ICO, 29,636 bitcoins were crowdfunded from 5,790 participants in April and May 2016, with a market value of around $16 million at the time the ICO ended.
The value of waves is currently very impressive.

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on a fence to buy evga 1070s. I can choose between sc, sc black, sc2, FE.
Any suggestion which one I should go with? I searched up a bit and heard you cannot control fan speed on sc2.. Anyone knows if it is true for sc2?

I own none of them.
I know they are very good on warranty service with the few pus's I killed 3 of 30 went dead.   2 on a bad mobo the other was pushed for a few years.

Back to your questions.

the sc
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-248-_-Product

the sc black

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA98C5DB8718&cm_re=evga_sc_black_1070-_-14-487-265-_-Product

the sc 2

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487320&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-320-_-Product

the fe or founders

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6H5ES5360&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-247-_-Product


the prices above are not accurate since the founders is build sold at a crazy high price  by a reseller

they all have a 3 year warranty

they all have a 1594 clock for core except for founders which has 1508

a lower start clock can be helpful if you are in a hot spot and want to clock low.

I like blower style the found is just that.

If I were buying them I would get the founder because of the blower style.  but not at the high price I linked to above.

In your case  do you want quiet ones and will you have a lot of space between with a riser build  get the cheapest 2 fan model.  if one of them has locked fans do not get it .  miners do not want or need or should ever use auto fan settings.
manual is better to mine with.

I have a lot of space but would prefer quiet model as it will be in my house. also in pretty cold location.

and yes the fan is my real concern. I am just not sure which model has locked fans or not. I just heard randomly on some website sc2 has lock fans and cannot adjust fan speed manually. Have you tried aorus or zotac amp edition 1070s? I dont mind price being little high, just looking for something that will run stable with fan control and good hashrate as I am planning to build only 1 rig.


I still am lacking info.

are you build a six card open air riser rig?

which  I really advise against  since you want 1 rig.

So to answer  I am stuck with no answer for you.

But if you are going open air  do 2 rigs of 3 cards each.

VpyrBTC  said the sc2 worked with afterburner

so get that.  and I can tell you what mobo to use for the three card builds.

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June 11, 2017, 07:17:56 PM
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- Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?

>> my group consist of 5 retired guys each with our own specialties and areas of interests. We pooled a modest amount of retirement money into BTC, ETH and alt-mining (the wives staged a brief protest at end of 2015 when we first started).... we also have a small 2PH BTC farm ~ S9s and Avalon 721s,741s and a 25GHs X11 farm hosted in a very cold country above the USA. Anyways.... we are predicting (with somewhat good trends and analysis) that ETH will hit 1000$ and beyond by end of the year.... so thats the main reason of the 2nd GPU farm of 33 x 6 x RX470 exclusively mining ETH. We intend to partially cashout before first POS ~ 1st quarter 2018???. When Vitalik hinted that he may consider 1/3 to go POS ... POS+POW hybrid.... my group thinks we are on the right track.... who knows what future brings.... but this is our current strategy.

- Where do you will point the 2nd 22 rigs farm to ?
>> to Dwarfpool.

-Are you happy with Dwarfpool ? fair payouts ? hashrate reported close to the calculated one ? I'm currently on Ethpool, but maybe time to change...

>> Personally I like ethpool. The first GPU farm was 100% on ethpool and solid as rock.

When Dwarfpool upgraded their global nodes, we were getting single digit & incredible pings at 4-5ms (the proxy/stratum server must be in next building!!!)

Our hash submission became very consistent, ultra fast and 0 rejects - that's the basis of of choosing Dwarfpool.

Our trusty backup remains at ethpool and ethermine (3rd backup).

Suggest you do your ping analysis regularly -- most major pools are actively upgrading their global stratum nodes.

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June 11, 2017, 07:45:43 PM
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- Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?



Suggest you do your ping analysis regularly -- most major pools are actively upgrading their global stratum nodes.

Thanks very much , I will check that for sure.

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- Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?

>> my group consist of 5 retired guys each with our own specialties and areas of interests. We pooled a modest amount of retirement money into BTC, ETH and alt-mining (the wives staged a brief protest at end of 2015 when we first started).... we also have a small 2PH BTC farm ~ S9s and Avalon 721s,741s and a 25GHs X11 farm hosted in a very cold country above the USA. Anyways.... we are predicting (with somewhat good trends and analysis) that ETH will hit 1000$ and beyond by end of the year.... so thats the main reason of the 2nd GPU farm of 33 x 6 x RX470 exclusively mining ETH. We intend to partially cashout before first POS ~ 1st quarter 2018???. When Vitalik hinted that he may consider 1/3 to go POS ... POS+POW hybrid.... my group thinks we are on the right track.... who knows what future brings.... but this is our current strategy.


I agree with the holding strategy, nobody should sell ETH for now ...
But I don't understand why do you want to cash out before POS ?
I was thinking that keeping ETHs would be rewarding after POS.
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June 11, 2017, 07:47:59 PM
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- Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?

>> my group consist of 5 retired guys each with our own specialties and areas of interests. We pooled a modest amount of retirement money into BTC, ETH and alt-mining (the wives staged a brief protest at end of 2015 when we first started).... we also have a small 2PH BTC farm ~ S9s and Avalon 721s,741s and a 25GHs X11 farm hosted in a very cold country above the USA. Anyways.... we are predicting (with somewhat good trends and analysis) that ETH will hit 1000$ and beyond by end of the year.... so thats the main reason of the 2nd GPU farm of 33 x 6 x RX470 exclusively mining ETH. We intend to partially cashout before first POS ~ 1st quarter 2018???. When Vitalik hinted that he may consider 1/3 to go POS ... POS+POW hybrid.... my group thinks we are on the right track.... who knows what future brings.... but this is our current strategy.

- Where do you will point the 2nd 22 rigs farm to ?
>> to Dwarfpool.

-Are you happy with Dwarfpool ? fair payouts ? hashrate reported close to the calculated one ? I'm currently on Ethpool, but maybe time to change...

>> Personally I like ethpool. The first GPU farm was 100% on ethpool and solid as rock.

When Dwarfpool upgraded their global nodes, we were getting single digit & incredible pings at 4-5ms (the proxy/stratum server must be in next building!!!)

Our hash submission became very consistent, ultra fast and 0 rejects - that's the basis of of choosing Dwarfpool.

Our trusty backup remains at ethpool and ethermine (3rd backup).

Suggest you do your ping analysis regularly -- most major pools are actively upgrading their global stratum nodes.

That is very interesting, do you run everything on air cooling? just trying to research into the idea of going larger.. i just ordered 2 more GTX1080ti's lastnight which will bring my total up to 8 very soon, yet only 4 is only running currently due to mobo to risers issues with the 2nd computer not functioning.... so i ordered another mobo combo to try out that is heavily used by others.. im pretty sure 3 different brand risers are not all bad when tested with 2 different PSU's.... I really want to buy more GPU's, but im hesitant to use my own funds, really would prefer the BTC to pay for them, but im still to new and to small for that right now.. and right now the profits earned are pretty dang amazing.. just scared of what to come in the future.... Sad

I have found multiple mini-warehouse rentals near me, a couple 300sqft units for $300/month and 650sft units for $450/month... the only issue im cautious on to not go forth with this is the pure aspect of keeping things cool.. i have been testing my 2nd rig in a friends garage since my condo detached garage doesnt have power outlets sadly... and HOA will not allow me to have power in it.. and his garage got pretty toasty with just the 2 gpu's during the day with the garage door down here in sunny Florida.. granted GPU temps maintained under 69c, but what happens when i start adding more.. will it hold is my question

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June 11, 2017, 08:07:04 PM
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guys...

MSI-Gaming-M5... yet another 7 x PCI slot potential ideal mining mobo
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130873


and 3 x GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti 11G  

With all this juice

Skein or SIA or ZEC ?

Just noticed this old post... has Citronik or others here built a 6+ GPU rig on this board yet?  If it works will i might pick up 1 or 2, but want to make sure it supports at least 6 GPUs first.  Granted, there are no 4xx or 5xx GPUs even available right now but with currently high prices, i may have to consider going the Nvidia route and mine ZEC.  Even if Vega does release in Aug, I can't imagine a huge supply being readily available right away, so waiting 2-3 months in these market conditions really seems like throwing money away.
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June 11, 2017, 08:23:29 PM
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Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.


Do you mean 1060 and not 1050ti? I have read that the 1060 can push 24MH/s while the 1050ti does 14MH/s mining ETH.

Although 1080ti/1080/1070 for ZEC can hit 400sols upwards because of the high number of cores;

Stock settings on high-end 1080ti already hits 31-32 MHs in Claymore.

Crank up the mem clocks and you get even higher.

I can do 35-37mh on a 1080ti.

If the card has earned enough  then mining it on eth is viable.

Ie you got a 1080ti April 5 and have mined it for 65 days  earning 8 a day after power

say 500  do this is now in effect a 200 dollar card  mining 36mh if you move it to eth.

How are you pushing it to 35-37?

I can only manage 33 on my auros had a few lockups when trying to overclock etc so I didn't play with that too much.  That is on 100% TDP 33.

Also side question for everyone mining and auto converting to BTC.  Do you point this directly to your desktop wallet or is it acceptable to point it directly to an exchange wallet.  I only get a payout every few days from the various pools I mine and it is costing me fees to transfer it to the exchange wallet as I am trading some of the BTC earned into other coins such as ETH.  Is this acceptable practice to go directly to the exchange wallet?  Or should I contine the way I am and just eat the fees.
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Hmm, thats odd, when i was playing with the idea of mining ETH, i was getting 32-33MH/s on stock settings and +200 on core was pushing it to 35-36Mh/s, but that was before learning about downclocking cards to get better hashrate/watt usage...

I personally started on JAXX Wallet, but the cost to send it somewhere was extremely costly... then i moved to Coinbase and used that for a bit, but since moved over to Poloniex because i was playing with Yiimp for a week basically and they dont have auto-exchange, the transfer fee is extremely cheap imo, but you will get a nasty email if you just start using it and transfer money out directly without doing any trades, since they offer the cheaper transfer fees with profits they earn off the trade platform...... i have never gotten any of these emails in the 3 transfers from poloniex to coinbase so far, but i also did a few trades from dgb to btc... so that may be the difference.. ive been playing with the idea of trading some daily, but the amount of free time i have been having lately and amount of funds i have to trade would be very little at this time imo.... i gotta mine up a balance first lol

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June 11, 2017, 08:40:32 PM
Last edit: June 11, 2017, 09:00:50 PM by citronick
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@GabryRox
The MSI-Gaming M5 is based on the Z170 chipset which is ... to be frank... its PITA... pain in the ass
If you want to venture into 7,8,9 GPU rigs --- get the Z270 ones which is much more reliable on smOS, nvOC Linux and W10.
However there are special images by smOS and nvOC specifically for this board to work.
But frankly.... the reality is mining will be expensive to get into soon -- even NVIDIA has a mining GPU GTX1060 Mining edition.

@vg54dett
My advise to you is go for riserless rig, 2 or 3 x 1080tis and let it mine at NH and collect BTCs, if not..... more downtime means no money... :-(
Phil has many good examples on riserless rigs -- its cheaper to deploy and you can get into mining action quickly.
Once you have the right "farm" environment... maybe get your first few 6xriggers with proven mobo (ie. Asrock H81 pro BTC, Biostar TB85, newer Z270 boards etc.) and good quality risers and PSUs.
The key to controlling heat etc, is undervolting (Afterburnerv4.3 to reduce powerlimit/powerstage etc) and the main objective is stable rigs -- ie. dont go for maniac speed 30MH+++ (AMD cards)... you need extra juice to power those rigs and needs a lot of babysitting otherwise you can also try out custom roms.... however NVIDIA rigs is a different story.
All my RX470 rigs are 27MH-28MH per GPU -- around 164-166MH per rig.... they run cooler sub 70c.... around mid-60c... and super steady with Claymore. RX480s 28-29Mh rigs also runs cool and stable.
Use open cage rigs and a bunch of boxfans and help the rigs blow the hot air UPWARDS.... naturally hot air goes up... from there... guide those hot air out of the warehouse with a exhaust/blower/bigass fan/hot air curtains/tarps... For more information on how to do this... go visit yun6666 thread - plenty of good and practical solutions for mini DC or warehouse for GPU mining.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1761303.msg17588677#msg17588677

The cashing out before POS (we are not cashing out 100%), this is my group's strategy to achieve ROI of farm, get into the profit period quickly and put one foot into the ETH Hybrid POS-POW game. To be in the POS game, you need to put a 1500 ETH stake -- thats a lot of money tied into POS. My group wants a certain flexibility on how they use the revenue and we are eyeing ETC very very closely for continued POW action.

Talking about wallets... I use Coinbase (I can deposit BTC, ETH and LTC) -- Coinbase links to my bank directly so I cash out every week for my group.
It's not wise to use Poloniex as a long-term wallet. Also have a cold-wallet strategy... Phil has an excellent cold wallet solution using Mac's Time Machine

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June 11, 2017, 08:57:00 PM
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Hmm, thats odd, when i was playing with the idea of mining ETH, i was getting 32-33MH/s on stock settings and +200 on core was pushing it to 35-36Mh/s, but that was before learning about downclocking cards to get better hashrate/watt usage...

I personally started on JAXX Wallet, but the cost to send it somewhere was extremely costly... then i moved to Coinbase and used that for a bit, but since moved over to Poloniex because i was playing with Yiimp for a week basically and they dont have auto-exchange, the transfer fee is extremely cheap imo, but you will get a nasty email if you just start using it and transfer money out directly without doing any trades, since they offer the cheaper transfer fees with profits they earn off the trade platform...... i have never gotten any of these emails in the 3 transfers from poloniex to coinbase so far, but i also did a few trades from dgb to btc... so that may be the difference.. ive been playing with the idea of trading some daily, but the amount of free time i have been having lately and amount of funds i have to trade would be very little at this time imo.... i gotta mine up a balance first lol

OK it is probably just the clock settings.  On auros they are more sensitive to messing with the clock and mem settings.  I got lockups so didn't play with it too much.  If it was simply playing with those settings I may try again though I think I am better off just mining zec to BTC and buying direct.

Storx so you are mining your pool earnings directly to where? Poloneix or your coinbase.   I live in new zealand.  So cashing out is pretty tricky all round.  I think the best way for me to cash out is to convert to BTC on an exchange and then transfer it to localcoins or a similar service and sell the BTC here.

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The cashing out before POS (we are not cashing out 100%), this is my group's strategy to achieve ROI of farm, get into the profit period quickly and put one foot into the ETH Hybrid POS-POW game. To be in the POS game, you need to put a 1500 ETH stake -- thats a lot of money tied into POS. My group wants a certain flexibility on how they use the revenue and we are eyeing ETC very very closely for continued POW action.


I didn't knew about the 1500 eths thing .. That's a lot , and not many people would be able to afford it ...
Seems not possible , in price particular if chart continue to rise ... 1500 ETHs @ $1000/eth for example?  Huh Huh Huh
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June 11, 2017, 09:38:22 PM
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Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.


Do you mean 1060 and not 1050ti? I have read that the 1060 can push 24MH/s while the 1050ti does 14MH/s mining ETH.

Although 1080ti/1080/1070 for ZEC can hit 400sols upwards because of the high number of cores;

Stock settings on high-end 1080ti already hits 31-32 MHs in Claymore.

Crank up the mem clocks and you get even higher.

I can do 35-37mh on a 1080ti.

If the card has earned enough  then mining it on eth is viable.

Ie you got a 1080ti April 5 and have mined it for 65 days  earning 8 a day after power

say 500  do this is now in effect a 200 dollar card  mining 36mh if you move it to eth.

How are you pushing it to 35-37?

I can only manage 33 on my auros had a few lockups when trying to overclock etc so I didn't play with that too much.  That is on 100% TDP 33.

Also side question for everyone mining and auto converting to BTC.  Do you point this directly to your desktop wallet or is it acceptable to point it directly to an exchange wallet.  I only get a payout every few days from the various pools I mine and it is costing me fees to transfer it to the exchange wallet as I am trading some of the BTC earned into other coins such as ETH.  Is this acceptable practice to go directly to the exchange wallet?  Or should I contine the way I am and just eat the fees.

100 % tdp is not the way To mine on a 1080 ti

aorus  should be

  75% tdp
+75   core
+400 ram
  75 % fan manual

 for eth mining.  do those settings  and see what you get.

  please trust me on this    no 1080 ti need or like 100%  tdp

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June 11, 2017, 09:45:51 PM
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@GabryRox  I am running 7 GPU's on a msi m5 z170. ran it on ethOS & nanopool didn't like nanopool
switched to Win 10 & nicehash had a ram problem went from 4 to 6 solved it. making 8 usd a day more on nicehash.
Runs perfect.
having said that I would suggest getting the Z270. if it was me.
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June 11, 2017, 09:54:58 PM
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Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.


Do you mean 1060 and not 1050ti? I have read that the 1060 can push 24MH/s while the 1050ti does 14MH/s mining ETH.

Although 1080ti/1080/1070 for ZEC can hit 400sols upwards because of the high number of cores;

Stock settings on high-end 1080ti already hits 31-32 MHs in Claymore.

Crank up the mem clocks and you get even higher.

I can do 35-37mh on a 1080ti.

If the card has earned enough  then mining it on eth is viable.

Ie you got a 1080ti April 5 and have mined it for 65 days  earning 8 a day after power

say 500  do this is now in effect a 200 dollar card  mining 36mh if you move it to eth.

How are you pushing it to 35-37?

I can only manage 33 on my auros had a few lockups when trying to overclock etc so I didn't play with that too much.  That is on 100% TDP 33.

Also side question for everyone mining and auto converting to BTC.  Do you point this directly to your desktop wallet or is it acceptable to point it directly to an exchange wallet.  I only get a payout every few days from the various pools I mine and it is costing me fees to transfer it to the exchange wallet as I am trading some of the BTC earned into other coins such as ETH.  Is this acceptable practice to go directly to the exchange wallet?  Or should I contine the way I am and just eat the fees.

100 % tdp is not the way To mine on a 1080 ti

aorus  should be

  75% tdp
+75   core
+400 ram
  75 % fan manual

 for eth mining.  do those settings  and see what you get.

  please trust me on this    no 1080 ti need or like 100%  tdp

No I don't mine on 100% TDP.  I just was saying the best I had got on stock.

I tried using settings I saw you post for auros +130 core but it locked me up.

Then I tried this before seeing this post based on other auros settings I saw you post but they might have been for zec/skein mining.

TDP 75%
Just tried +80 core
-100 ram
75 Fan

getting 31-32.

Tried the settings you posted above.  Getting from 32-35  when it says set work seed it drops down to 20.  I think this is normal though I have not mined eth for a while.  Thanks for the settings.

  75% tdp
+75   core
+400 ram
  75 % fan manual

=32-35   I could try going higher on the core? I know it locks up at 130.






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June 11, 2017, 10:37:43 PM
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Phil, How do you like those white Gigabyte 1080 ti's?
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June 11, 2017, 10:52:15 PM
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Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.


Do you mean 1060 and not 1050ti? I have read that the 1060 can push 24MH/s while the 1050ti does 14MH/s mining ETH.

Although 1080ti/1080/1070 for ZEC can hit 400sols upwards because of the high number of cores;

Stock settings on high-end 1080ti already hits 31-32 MHs in Claymore.

Crank up the mem clocks and you get even higher.

I can do 35-37mh on a 1080ti.

If the card has earned enough  then mining it on eth is viable.

Ie you got a 1080ti April 5 and have mined it for 65 days  earning 8 a day after power

say 500  do this is now in effect a 200 dollar card  mining 36mh if you move it to eth.

How are you pushing it to 35-37?

I can only manage 33 on my auros had a few lockups when trying to overclock etc so I didn't play with that too much.  That is on 100% TDP 33.

Also side question for everyone mining and auto converting to BTC.  Do you point this directly to your desktop wallet or is it acceptable to point it directly to an exchange wallet.  I only get a payout every few days from the various pools I mine and it is costing me fees to transfer it to the exchange wallet as I am trading some of the BTC earned into other coins such as ETH.  Is this acceptable practice to go directly to the exchange wallet?  Or should I contine the way I am and just eat the fees.

100 % tdp is not the way To mine on a 1080 ti

aorus  should be

  75% tdp
+75   core
+400 ram
  75 % fan manual

 for eth mining.  do those settings  and see what you get.

  please trust me on this    no 1080 ti need or like 100%  tdp

No I don't mine on 100% TDP.  I just was saying the best I had got on stock.

I tried using settings I saw you post for auros +130 core but it locked me up.

Then I tried this before seeing this post based on other auros settings I saw you post but they might have been for zec/skein mining.

TDP 75%
Just tried +80 core
-100 ram
75 Fan

getting 31-32.

Tried the settings you posted above.  Getting from 32-35  when it says set work seed it drops down to 20.  I think this is normal though I have not mined eth for a while.  Thanks for the settings.

  75% tdp
+75   core
+400 ram
  75 % fan manual

=32-35   I could try going higher on the core? I know it locks up at 130.







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 The Aorus has a very high stock core.  So don't go past in your case 100+ for core.
Push ram to 450 if it holds try

Ram at 475 then 500

This is for eth

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June 11, 2017, 11:00:25 PM
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Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.


Do you mean 1060 and not 1050ti? I have read that the 1060 can push 24MH/s while the 1050ti does 14MH/s mining ETH.

Although 1080ti/1080/1070 for ZEC can hit 400sols upwards because of the high number of cores;

Stock settings on high-end 1080ti already hits 31-32 MHs in Claymore.

Crank up the mem clocks and you get even higher.

I can do 35-37mh on a 1080ti.

If the card has earned enough  then mining it on eth is viable.

Ie you got a 1080ti April 5 and have mined it for 65 days  earning 8 a day after power

say 500  do this is now in effect a 200 dollar card  mining 36mh if you move it to eth.

How are you pushing it to 35-37?

I can only manage 33 on my auros had a few lockups when trying to overclock etc so I didn't play with that too much.  That is on 100% TDP 33.

Also side question for everyone mining and auto converting to BTC.  Do you point this directly to your desktop wallet or is it acceptable to point it directly to an exchange wallet.  I only get a payout every few days from the various pools I mine and it is costing me fees to transfer it to the exchange wallet as I am trading some of the BTC earned into other coins such as ETH.  Is this acceptable practice to go directly to the exchange wallet?  Or should I contine the way I am and just eat the fees.

100 % tdp is not the way To mine on a 1080 ti

aorus  should be

  75% tdp
+75   core
+400 ram
  75 % fan manual

 for eth mining.  do those settings  and see what you get.

  please trust me on this    no 1080 ti need or like 100%  tdp

No I don't mine on 100% TDP.  I just was saying the best I had got on stock.

I tried using settings I saw you post for auros +130 core but it locked me up.

Then I tried this before seeing this post based on other auros settings I saw you post but they might have been for zec/skein mining.

TDP 75%
Just tried +80 core
-100 ram
75 Fan

getting 31-32.

Tried the settings you posted above.  Getting from 32-35  when it says set work seed it drops down to 20.  I think this is normal though I have not mined eth for a while.  Thanks for the settings.

  75% tdp
+75   core
+400 ram
  75 % fan manual

=32-35   I could try going higher on the core? I know it locks up at 130.








I know Phillip knows WAY more than me on this, but you can also try to turn down the intensity of the miner itself. For example my MOST efficient settings for skein algo that i spent many of hours fine tuning on my gigabyte cards is unable to run half the other coins on zpool list, so one way i got around this via reading about it in another post is to turn down the intensity, 15-30 range, 15 is the lowest, 30 is heavy duty... then run it for a while and see if it stable, then turn up the core clock... My current skein settings is 64TDP/70c/+307/-502 with intensity of 25 on skein.. at intensity of 27 i couldnt get it stable over 250 core...*dropping intensity does drop the hashrate tho...

I also took the mining batch further, i created a secondary batch with the intensity turned down to 15 on my GPU0, then full tilt on 27 intensity on the other GPU and running these settings i can play league of legends without any fuss or lockups.. the intensity at 15 is low enough that its still partially mining, but still able to process the game so i can play while mining.. I just start up both batch files and play my game

Intensity command is "-i 15"

- GPUs Mining : 128 (Updated 3/7/18) // CPUs Mining : 19 (Updated 2/23/18)
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June 11, 2017, 11:08:20 PM
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The MSI-Gaming M5 is based on the Z170 chipset which is ... to be frank... its PITA... pain in the ass
If you want to venture into 7,8,9 GPU rigs --- get the Z270 ones which is much more reliable on smOS, nvOC Linux and W10.
However there are special images by smOS and nvOC specifically for this board to work.
But frankly.... the reality is mining will be expensive to get into soon -- even NVIDIA has a mining GPU GTX1060 Mining edition.


Thanks for the advice  Cit & Chilidog... the Z270's look like really nice boards, so if and when I can find some decently priced GPU's I may consider going for 1-2 of them.  I already am running 4 6x MSI 470 rigs, and would like to get 1-2 more up and running, but as Cit mentioned, the reality is that it would cost a severe premium to build more rigs now due to 1) global shortage of 580/570 and pretty much no 480/470's left in the supply chain and 2) the 2 to 4x cost of NVidia cards compared to Radeon.

I'll be honest, i never really looked hard at the NVidia prices until earlier today, and was astonished to see how much more they cost than AMD cards. Even the lowly 1060's are ~$300, and I think at best they can do what, about the same as a 470 on ZEC (250 S/s)?  From there it only seems to get worse... a 1080 can do what, 450-500 S/s on ZEC?  Sure, that's 2x what a 470 could do, but about 3x the cost (retail 470, which of course is non-existent now).  

The thing i can't figure out is the profitability of these higher end NVidia cards. Just plugging the comparison of a 1080 (non-TI ) vs a 470 in whattomine, the 1080 mining ZEC is only 10% at most more profitable than a 470 mining ETH, but at 2-3x the cost, will take much longer to ROI, correct?  And, I'm not adding in the extra you could easily get by going dual ETH + DCR or SIA. In that case, the 470 would actually be more profitable than a 1080. So, kind of wondering what the appeal of going NVidia would be, especially before the shortage of 4xx & 5xx cards. Probably I am missing something...
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June 11, 2017, 11:24:04 PM
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@GabryRox
The MSI-Gaming M5 is based on the Z170 chipset which is ... to be frank... its PITA... pain in the ass
If you want to venture into 7,8,9 GPU rigs --- get the Z270 ones which is much more reliable on smOS, nvOC Linux and W10.
However there are special images by smOS and nvOC specifically for this board to work.
But frankly.... the reality is mining will be expensive to get into soon -- even NVIDIA has a mining GPU GTX1060 Mining edition.


Thanks for the advice  Cit & Chilidog... the Z270's look like really nice boards, so if and when I can find some decently priced GPU's I may consider going for 1-2 of them.  I already am running 4 6x MSI 470 rigs, and would like to get 1-2 more up and running, but as Cit mentioned, the reality is that it would cost a severe premium to build more rigs now due to 1) global shortage of 580/570 and pretty much no 480/470's left in the supply chain and 2) the 2 to 4x cost of NVidia cards compared to Radeon.

I'll be honest, i never really looked hard at the NVidia prices until earlier today, and was astonished to see how much more they cost than AMD cards. Even the lowly 1060's are ~$300, and I think at best they can do what, about the same as a 470 on ZEC (250 S/s)?  From there it only seems to get worse... a 1080 can do what, 450-500 S/s on ZEC?  Sure, that's 2x what a 470 could do, but about 3x the cost (retail 470, which of course is non-existent now).  

The thing i can't figure out is the profitability of these higher end NVidia cards. Just plugging the comparison of a 1080 (non-TI ) vs a 470 in whattomine, the 1080 mining ZEC is only 10% at most more profitable than a 470 mining ETH, but at 2-3x the cost, will take much longer to ROI, correct?  And, I'm not adding in the extra you could easily get by going dual ETH + DCR or SIA. In that case, the 470 would actually be more profitable than a 1080. So, kind of wondering what the appeal of going NVidia would be, especially before the shortage of 4xx & 5xx cards. Probably I am missing something...

power cost
heat
area used

If I run 3 1080ti's I can do 1950 for zec at under 580 watts
if I run 6 580's I can do 1750 for zec at 800 watts

3 1080tis on sale = 1770
6 say 580's = 1500

psu a beast for the 580's say the evga 1300 g2  about 200

psu a 750 watt evga for the  750 p2 about 130

risers 1 for the 3x 1080ti's or even none

risers 6 for the 580

psu a good one for the nvidia and run xmr  the i5 6400t my cpus used on eBay are about 130 I earn 3 a day  so the 8 I have are all paid off  so the extra mobo extra psu extra cpu costs all go by the way side.

as I simple do not go past 4 cards on my 1080 ti builds

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