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June 14, 2023, 07:08:40 PM
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Arsenal are reported to be interested in Kai Havertz who has two years left on his contract at Chelsea [1]. Recently Real Madrid also were reported to be interested in Havertz but seems to have backed off after Chelsea tag on Havertz of 75-80m Euro around. 75m Euro was also reported to Arsenal and Arsenal also seems to uninterested in paying that much. But from Chelsea point of view, it is understandable given the price they paid to get Havertz from Leverkusen.

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At least, there are big clubs trying to sign Kai Havertz. but to be honest, I wonder why Madrid and Arsenal are interested in this Chelsea player. I know, maybe the performance is not so good this season. but at £75m, it seems more likely to be looking at other young talents. actually, Kai Havertz is a player who can be played in two positions. but it seems, it's not a profitable investment to bring it, especially now that its performance has dropped dramatically. very reasonable, if Arsenal are not willing to bring in Havertz at a very expensive price.

After all, Arsenal's priority right now is immediately bidding and a deal for Declan Rice. if Havertz is brought to the Emirates Stadium, will he become a regular player. I'm sure not, or if it's just Arteta and Edu's strategy, we don't know. what is certain, besides Declan Rice, Arsenal need a defender who is quite tough. at least, Joao Cancelo is quite ideal.

Kai Havertz is not a bad player. Chelsea played badly as a team. I don’t think that’s a reason for big clubs to not chase Havertz because he is a good player who played in a bad team. I think he still can be very useful to clubs like Real Madrid and Arsenal. I genuinely don’t see a reason why they should not chase him. Real Madrid should be more interested in him. At least compared to Arsenal. I believe Arsenal needs to make other transfers. So right now Havertz might not be the first priority for Arsenal.

But I agree on one thing. That is I believe with this amount of money, they can actually get other players who are probably going to be better. Actually, it depends if after joining the team Havertz finds his form back. But is that a risk which any club is willing to take?

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June 14, 2023, 07:29:48 PM
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Kai Havertz is not a bad player. Chelsea played badly as a team. I don’t think that’s a reason for big clubs to not chase Havertz because he is a good player who played in a bad team. I think he still can be very useful to clubs like Real Madrid and Arsenal. I genuinely don’t see a reason why they should not chase him. Real Madrid should be more interested in him. At least compared to Arsenal. I believe Arsenal needs to make other transfers. So right now Havertz might not be the first priority for Arsenal.

But I agree on one thing. That is I believe with this amount of money, they can actually get other players who are probably going to be better. Actually, it depends if after joining the team Havertz finds his form back. But is that a risk which any club is willing to take?

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After losing most of their key players, it's time for the new owner, Todd Boehly to forget about the old team and focus on the new. Despite his bad form this season as a result of Chelsea's dismal performance, Kai Havertz is an amazing striker for the Blues. He's on the market, and we have elite clubs that have made proposals for the German, one of which was Real Madrid, but they've backed out because they're not ready to match the bid on the attacker. Arsenal is also interested, but it is not a priority for them; they would prefer to get Declan Rice before pursuing other players on their radar.

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June 14, 2023, 07:32:40 PM
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Arsenal are reported to be interested in Kai Havertz who has two years left on his contract at Chelsea [1]. Recently Real Madrid also were reported to be interested in Havertz but seems to have backed off after Chelsea tag on Havertz of 75-80m Euro around. 75m Euro was also reported to Arsenal and Arsenal also seems to uninterested in paying that much. But from Chelsea point of view, it is understandable given the price they paid to get Havertz from Leverkusen.

I doubt that Real Madrid was really considering to sign Kai Havertz at least in this summer. First of all i think they have a very good offensive midfield already with players like Valverde and Vinicius Jr. and they also need a real number 9 now way more because obviously Benzema has left the club, which was a pretty big surprise for the Real officials i would guess because their initial plan was to play another season with Benzema and then for the next one they would try to get Haaland.
Now Real is forced to buy a new number 9 immediately and they need a very good one. So i doubt they have funds left for Havertz or any other player that is not even needed that much.
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June 14, 2023, 07:47:46 PM
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After losing most of their key players, it's time for the new owner, Todd Boehly to forget about the old team and focus on the new. Despite his bad form this season as a result of Chelsea's dismal performance, Kai Havertz is an amazing striker for the Blues. He's on the market, and we have elite clubs that have made proposals for the German, one of which was Real Madrid, but they've backed out because they're not ready to match the bid on the attacker. Arsenal is also interested, but it is not a priority for them; they would prefer to get Declan Rice before pursuing other players on their radar.
But what we see is Chelsea is priced quite expensive so the other interested teams will back off a bit because it's too expensive plus it's not part of their main priority still it could be an option between Real Madrid and Arsenal because their striker is still capable even though Havertz not so brought.

Maybe in a personal agreement, Havertz wants to move but they are hindered by high prices which make Chelsea not want to lose in selling players, so I think even if Havertz is retained he still deserves to be made the main striker.

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June 14, 2023, 07:53:11 PM
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Arsenal are reported to be interested in Kai Havertz who has two years left on his contract at Chelsea [1]. Recently Real Madrid also were reported to be interested in Havertz but seems to have backed off after Chelsea tag on Havertz of 75-80m Euro around. 75m Euro was also reported to Arsenal and Arsenal also seems to uninterested in paying that much. But from Chelsea point of view, it is understandable given the price they paid to get Havertz from Leverkusen.
Chelsea management are doing as much as possible to recover some of the money that they spent during the transfer season by choosing to put the sell off price of these players that they want to let go at very high price. Arsenal will be discouraged to continue because he will be too much for them to want to buy at that price with Declan Rice deal. Liverpool were at one time interested in Mason Mount but the price on his head discouraged them.

For Real Madrid, with Jude Bellingham and other young midfielders like Camavinga, they have a very goo midfield that will become better as the years go on. They need to secure defenders so Camavinga does not play leftback this season, and a good striker as Benzema is out.

I think if they can't find a replacement for Benzema (because it won't be easy to do), Vinicius will be able to close the hole there. They looked very good together, but he'll also be able to cover the position in a way that doesn't make it worse. But he definitely needs someone to pair him with

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June 14, 2023, 08:00:33 PM
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I think if they can't find a replacement for Benzema (because it won't be easy to do), Vinicius will be able to close the hole there. They looked very good together, but he'll also be able to cover the position in a way that doesn't make it worse. But he definitely needs someone to pair him with
Vinicius and Rodrygo are two players who can be relied on in Real Madrid's attack line next season, but they also have to have backup players because neither of them can guarantee good performance throughout the season. Real Madrid need quite a lot of strikers next season, at least I think they need 2-3 strikers.

If Ancelotti doesn't have a good striker in stock next season then I think it will be difficult for us to dominate La Liga instead of Barcelona. Barcelona have several strikers, even if one is injured or plays badly they have good replacements. We have to have that too, so it will help Real Madrid compete in La Liga next season.

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June 14, 2023, 08:08:28 PM
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Kai Havertz is not a bad player. Chelsea played badly as a team. I don’t think that’s a reason for big clubs to not chase Havertz because he is a good player who played in a bad team. I think he still can be very useful to clubs like Real Madrid and Arsenal. I genuinely don’t see a reason why they should not chase him. Real Madrid should be more interested in him. At least compared to Arsenal. I believe Arsenal needs to make other transfers. So right now Havertz might not be the first priority for Arsenal.

But I agree on one thing. That is I believe with this amount of money, they can actually get other players who are probably going to be better. Actually, it depends if after joining the team Havertz finds his form back. But is that a risk which any club is willing to take?

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We have seen how he played with Chelsea, even with Tuchel at the start of the season. we agree that what makes his performance unstable may be due to an unsupportive team situation. but unfortunately, the action at the 2022 world cup was not that impressive either. that's why, it would be a gamble to bring it at a fairly expensive price. Initially, Don Carlo paid more attention to this Chelsea player. but with the proposed price tag, Carlo Ancelotti backed off slowly.

Currently, Arsenal are also rumored to be interested in using his services. I'm trying to analyze what Arteta will do with him. will he be a centre-forward, if yes, they already have 3 centre-forwards. so, ideally one of them would be sold, for example Eddie Nketiah. or, Havertz could be a playmaker. unfortunately, Arteta's system doesn't use a playmaker. In short, I'm not sure what Arteta and Edu are planning. but what is certain, Arsenal will not be interested in bringing him in with a tag of £ 75 million, the same is true of what Madrid did.

By the way, I'm pretty sure eventually Chelsea will lower their prices. because, they have a lot of players as a striker. Like it or not, Chelsea had to release some of their players.

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June 14, 2023, 08:09:45 PM
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Arsenal are reported to be interested in Kai Havertz who has two years left on his contract at Chelsea [1]. Recently Real Madrid also were reported to be interested in Havertz but seems to have backed off after Chelsea tag on Havertz of 75-80m Euro around. 75m Euro was also reported to Arsenal and Arsenal also seems to uninterested in paying that much. But from Chelsea point of view, it is understandable given the price they paid to get Havertz from Leverkusen.

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To tell the truth I find this price tag quite expensive for Havertz. I wouldn't like to underestimate Havertz's talent of course. Football is an industry of course so this kind of prices will be our new normal in time. But for now I can't get used to the idea of paying 75 milion euro for a player like Havertz. He hasn't been that much impressive in the three-season time period with Chelsea. Chelsea insisted on putting him on the centre-forward place most of the time and this wasn't a good idea at all.

Because Havertz were playing as attacking midfielder mostly for Leverkusen and the second best place of him was right wing. I don't know if the risk is worth being taken for Arsenal as a result. Havertz is still 24 years old but I don't know if he is completely open to get much better than this.

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Jude Bellinghams little brother is called Jobe and je is 17 years old. He joins AFC Sunderland and came from  Birmingham City. It is not one of the top 10 clubs in the Premier League, but its a good place for him at his age to continue playing in one of the best leagues in the world. Jude was also at Birmingham, then to Germany and now at Real Madrid. Someday they maybe play together.

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June 14, 2023, 08:26:18 PM
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Arsenal are reported to be interested in Kai Havertz who has two years left on his contract at Chelsea [1]. Recently Real Madrid also were reported to be interested in Havertz but seems to have backed off after Chelsea tag on Havertz of 75-80m Euro around. 75m Euro was also reported to Arsenal and Arsenal also seems to uninterested in paying that much. But from Chelsea point of view, it is understandable given the price they paid to get Havertz from Leverkusen.
Chelsea management are doing as much as possible to recover some of the money that they spent during the transfer season by choosing to put the sell off price of these players that they want to let go at very high price. Arsenal will be discouraged to continue because he will be too much for them to want to buy at that price with Declan Rice deal. Liverpool were at one time interested in Mason Mount but the price on his head discouraged them.

Mason Mount is a quality player and let's not also forget that he's english, English players are always valued at a high price especially in the premier league so he (Mason Mount) can't be excluded he has to be valued high. He isn't a bad player and if any club wants him then they should pay. Manchester united put in a bid of £40 million for Mason Mount but it was immediately rejected by Chelsea and I was glad the board did that with the fastness they did. Mason Mount didn't play badly last season, he was out due to injuries and contract negotiations.

If Manchester united or any club wants Mason service, they should pay. I'm disappoint to hear that Kai Havertz Real Madrid rumours has collapse, Arsenal coming for him makes no sense to me but if they have the bags and are ready to spend then Todd Boehly shoudn't hesitate to sell Kai Havertz, I think we have gotten the best we can from him. He has won us the champions league and other trophy so it's time to say goodbye.

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June 14, 2023, 08:28:03 PM
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But I think Belllingham needs time to adjust the style of the game from the existing squad team players, I am not a fan of Madrid but it seems that Madrid has been seen seriously to bring in many great players for Madrid to win many championships next season. Let's see that Bellingham Playing in Madrid, hopefully there is a new color of Madrid's game in the future.
This is good news, I think he will have no difficulty adapting to Real madrid's old players. I think it won't take long for him to give the best game. Other news, Real Madrid is also ready to take advantage of Mane's bad situation in Munich. Reportedly Madrid only need to pay €25 million. This option became the end point of Mane not having a good relationship with the team after a fight with Sane.
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June 14, 2023, 08:42:00 PM
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Jude Bellinghams little brother is called Jobe and je is 17 years old. He joins AFC Sunderland and came from  Birmingham City. It is not one of the top 10 clubs in the Premier League, but its a good place for him at his age to continue playing in one of the best leagues in the world. Jude was also at Birmingham, then to Germany and now at Real Madrid. Someday they maybe play together.
Of course it's something that is bound to happen, even at his age, Madrid has been tracking him for a long time, but we can't say for sure. With Bellingham contract at Madrid until 2029, it means that his younger brother still has time, especially since he is still 17 years old and is no stranger to Madrid recruits who are always eyeing players at a young age.

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But I think Belllingham needs time to adjust the style of the game from the existing squad team players, I am not a fan of Madrid but it seems that Madrid has been seen seriously to bring in many great players for Madrid to win many championships next season. Let's see that Bellingham Playing in Madrid, hopefully there is a new color of Madrid's game in the future.
This is good news, I think he will have no difficulty adapting to Real madrid's old players. I think it won't take long for him to give the best game. Other news, Real Madrid is also ready to take advantage of Mane's bad situation in Munich. Reportedly Madrid only need to pay €25 million. This option became the end point of Mane not having a good relationship with the team after a fight with Sane.
In my opinion, with the time you have and the competition that hasn't started, it is certainly the ideal time for Bellingham to continue to adapt. Don't get me wrong with the remaining time, I think it will not be difficult for Bellingham to adapt plus the training that will continue to be carried out with Madrid will make it easier to adapt to Ancelotti style of play.

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June 14, 2023, 08:44:01 PM
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Jude Bellinghams little brother is called Jobe and je is 17 years old. He joins AFC Sunderland and came from  Birmingham City. It is not one of the top 10 clubs in the Premier League, but its a good place for him at his age to continue playing in one of the best leagues in the world. Jude was also at Birmingham, then to Germany and now at Real Madrid. Someday they maybe play together.
Of course it's something that is bound to happen, even at his age, Madrid has been tracking him for a long time, but we can't say for sure. With Bellingham contract at Madrid until 2029, it means that his younger brother still has time, especially since he is still 17 years old and is no stranger to Madrid recruits who are always eyeing players at a young age.

It is going to be really interesting to see that happen. Jobe Bellingham is showing good potential. But he needs to be groomed a lot more. He needs to be nurtured properly. I do not follow him closely, but I believe he is showing good potential playing in midfield or forward position. Right now he is in a good place, and of course, he is also going to get a lot of help from his elder brother. He is only 17, so he has a long way to go and who knows maybe we will someday see what the brothers playing together or even maybe against each other!

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June 14, 2023, 09:41:59 PM
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Mbappe's game is understandable, but it seems that this time he himself is only participating in someone else's game. Most likely Real Madrid's intention to buy Kane was a bluff to get Mbappe to get active and it worked. With the Haaland treble, Mbappe has no other options but to move to a more serious club than PSG, otherwise he risks falling behind the Norwegian in a clash of giants of this generation.

Mbappe shall have learned a lot from what happened with the former of PSG player. Thiago silva, Silva was leaving from PSG and move to the chelsea and he got three trophies with chelsea include club world cup even UCL. Mbappe's career will always stuck in the same place if he will not able to leave from the comfort zone. He needs to leave from there. Kyle walker was also proving it how his leave from totenham was also bringing him to the win of treble winners. The only stupid players who keep staying in the club that runs in the same place.
I hope that mbappe will try to consider a move to the another club as soon as possible. I heard that if it's not only real madrid. Manchester united was trying to approaching him as soon as he leaves from the club.

I think that MU was also very interesting to sign mbappe as a new player in summer. I do under why MU has a very big ambition to sign him caused by MU didn't have good attackers.
Mbappe can give alternative solution for that. His contribution was a lot tot he PSG. It's possible for mbappe moving to the MU

I heard about United's interest in Mbappe, but I think Mbappe is smart enough not to make that choice. United are far from the first team in the Premier League, they don't even have a guarantee of second place (or even top 4 haha). At the same time, Mbappe's main competitor for the number 1 title in the generation, Haaland plays in a dominant team, and against this background, the likelihood that against this background Mbappe will be in a losing position is very high. I would really like to see a strong United and a face-to-face confrontation between Mbappe and Haaland, but this option seems unrealistic to me.

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June 14, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
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Well, in my personal iopini'pon I don't doubt it, they have to change the coach, the coach, the technical team completely, because they are not giving good results, and if they continue like this they will continue to disappoint, or at least they should change the technical director, here The problem is not the players, here the problem is that they don't know how to direct all the stars, it is impossible that all these Chelsea players are so bad, I can't see it like that, because in reality they are not like that, here is what is wrong It's the leadership, that's why they have to do something urgent, just as they invested a lot of money in many good players, they have to make the biggest investment, which is in a better coach.


But isn't that too much of an easy excuse by the players when they say that the technical director is the problem?

I get the idea when we talk about the coach, but the technical director would be responsible if the squad was bad it would be his responsibility in terms of the players' quality. They have a lost a few games when I thought that they played shockingly bad and there is only so much that a technical director can do.

Now when they consider Pochettino, I don't like him that much but that is only my subjective opinion. I think he didn't do very well with PSG either. Firing Tuchel to then hire Potter, then Lampard and now Pochettino. It's probably because he is available right now. But winning Ligue 1 with PSG is quite different from competing in the EPL.

Yes, it is that each person has an opinion according to how they see the team's performance, but if they have a very strong and talented squad of players, it is not justified that they are losing and losing, there is no other way to do it, which What he implies is that he is the technical director, and maybe the coaching staff in general, including the coaches and physical trainers, but the one who bears the responsibility for everything is the technical director, now if all the players agree to make the coach look bad is something else, sometimes it happens , it's normal for most players to have Differences with their coach , but I don't think this is the case.


Indeed but there is a certain limit to everything. At times it felt like the Chelsea players refused to do the work that they have actually been signed for. And even if we assume that there were problems with the staff or the technical director, don't all these players who cost hundreds of millions of dollars and who earn 1000X of what their average fan earns, don't they owe some performance to their fans and everyone who pays for the ticket fees and buys their merchandise? They can't just say that they don't like someone and stop playing. Chelsea was really so bad that I thought I couldn't trust what I see anymore. If a team performs so bad they should get their salaries cut drastically because otherwise they don't care anyway. They perform bad but the 20 million are coming their ways no matter what happens in their job.

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June 14, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
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Some news for Juventus.

They are trying to

Sell Mckennie to Galatasaray
Buying Zaniolo from Galatasaray with a release clause

Cuadrado will probably leave as a free agent.
They are trying to keep Rabiot without leaving him as free agent.

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June 14, 2023, 10:05:51 PM
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Mason Mount is a quality player and let's not also forget that he's english, English players are always valued at a high price especially in the premier league so he (Mason Mount) can't be excluded he has to be valued high. He isn't a bad player and if any club wants him then they should pay. Manchester united put in a bid of £40 million for Mason Mount but it was immediately rejected by Chelsea and I was glad the board did that with the fastness they did. Mason Mount didn't play badly last season, he was out due to injuries and contract negotiations.

If Manchester united or any club wants Mason service, they should pay. I'm disappoint to hear that Kai Havertz Real Madrid rumours has collapse, Arsenal coming for him makes no sense to me but if they have the bags and are ready to spend then Todd Boehly shoudn't hesitate to sell Kai Havertz, I think we have gotten the best we can from him. He has won us the champions league and other trophy so it's time to say goodbye.

I'm sick of saying it, Mason Mount is completely over hyped by the media, yes he might be a quality player but not yet to the standard they think. He didn't put up a good performance for Chelsea last season, he was also dropped by Graham Potter.
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but he isn't worth more than 50M. The €40 Million bid from Manchester United is not insulting but I think they should up the bid for th second time just to make the move swiftly done. I'm only backing the Mason Mount move because Erik Ten Hag wants him.

Kai to Real Madrid didn't work because of the price from Chelsea. One without bias will consider it a wayward move. Real Madrid don't make mistakes whenever it comes to getting players. Some of this players linked with a move from Chelsea have ego, it's a good time for them to say yours truly.

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June 14, 2023, 10:27:27 PM
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Arsenal are reported to be interested in Kai Havertz who has two years left on his contract at Chelsea [1]. Recently Real Madrid also were reported to be interested in Havertz but seems to have backed off after Chelsea tag on Havertz of 75-80m Euro around. 75m Euro was also reported to Arsenal and Arsenal also seems to uninterested in paying that much. But from Chelsea point of view, it is understandable given the price they paid to get Havertz from Leverkusen.

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[1] https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1669002478086414336

I am not so satisfied with this news especially for the huge amount Chelsea are asking for his signature. Kai Havertz is a good player but his Premier league spell has not surpassed an average performance in the last two seasons, I doubt he is worth £75-80m which I also doubt we will be willing to pay. 50m is a considerable price for Kai Havertz in my opinion.
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June 14, 2023, 10:42:55 PM
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 A very good thing for Real Madrid and I didn't expect less since they have got the penchant for signing young and expensive players. The Santiago Bernabeu is one club that likes giving young players the platform to showcase their skill and prowess and a lot of eyes will be on him.
 Jude's move to Real will do a lot to bolster his career especially as the likes of Luka Modric and Toni Kroos' significance are slowly going down, with dedication, he can be on his way to becoming one of the best players in the world.

Real Madrid fans are overwhelmed with excitement about Jude Bellingham's transfer to Real Madrid this summer. I also cannot wait to see Jude Bellingham in Real Madrid next season, I believe he will improve the team and I love that Real Madrid and Ancelloti are building the team around young players not just for the present but for the future.

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June 14, 2023, 11:04:52 PM
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Vinicius and Rodrygo are two players who can be relied on in Real Madrid's attack line next season, but they also have to have backup players because neither of them can guarantee good performance throughout the season. Real Madrid need quite a lot of strikers next season, at least I think they need 2-3 strikers.

If Ancelotti doesn't have a good striker in stock next season then I think it will be difficult for us to dominate La Liga instead of Barcelona. Barcelona have several strikers, even if one is injured or plays badly they have good replacements. We have to have that too, so it will help Real Madrid compete in La Liga next season.
Ancelotti has a bigger job in this transfer window this season. I think one of the things that has to be done is to bring in a lot of players to fill the gaps where they have been left behind by their players who have gone to other clubs in the transfer window. The midfield will probably be very tough after bellingham comes in and diaz can also help the midfield be strong. For the position of the attacker, it is possible as you said where ancelotti needs several players to be able to support their strengths in the next season.

I see that there are several quality stickers that are targeted by Ancelotti, such as Mbappe and Harry Kane, even Osimhen is also associated with Real Madrid. I think one of them will most likely be brought in by ancelotti in this season's transfer window.

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