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June 06, 2022, 04:08:44 PM
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Still haven't seen the improvements that Erik ten Hag made. After Pogba officially joined Juventus, it was clear that Erik had to think about which player would be suitable. Manchester United always lags behind in improving the squad. It will be a very long struggle for Erik ten Hag at Manchester United. I am now doubting Erik for a few points.
What kind of enhancement are you referring to? ETH had no business with out-of-contract players leaving the club; there is nothing he could do to prevent that from happening, and he has no 100% control over who the club wants; he is not given the power to oversee transfers; his only job is to make suggestions on which players he would like to work with, but it is up to the club to decide what is best for the club's interests. He has yet to begin a single training session, but you're already tired of him? Grin

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June 06, 2022, 04:11:47 PM
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That's right, because this season will indeed be the last season it seems for this player and it is true that in this case also Ten Hag has started to try again to reorganize the team now.
There were already a few names he wanted and there were also a few names that just weren't on the current Ten Hag list.
For Pogba's performance at MU, it can't be called good because indeed I saw this player's game become normal when he was at MU
Still haven't seen the improvements that Erik ten Hag made. After Pogba officially joined Juventus, it was clear that Erik had to think about which player would be suitable. Manchester United always lags behind in improving the squad. It will be a very long struggle for Erik ten Hag at Manchester United. I am now doubting Erik for a few points.

I'm really curious to see what Erik Ten Hag will do with Manchester United the next year. I've observed that the Dutch managers does great things only on their league, but when they go in another country, they doesn't have

the same success as the one of their country.

Let's see what will happen  Grin Grin

 
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June 06, 2022, 04:16:32 PM
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Angel Di Maria who is currently a free agent in PSG will look for a big team that will accepts his pattern of playing and role. The Argentine is currently Happy to leave PSG who seems to be struggling at their present situation. Although Di Maria will always do what makes his family to be Happy and also himself happy. But there's a possible link to him moving to Juventus, but no talks have been hold with the both teams yet, either has Di Maria decided where he would be next season.



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According to the British Times, the official offer is around 25 million euros + 5 million in bonuses: If they win the Champions League. So it's just only a poker of the sum to be paid and mane will play in the coming season at FC Bayern. I think that is 99% save.

Liverpool reject £25m bid from Bayern Munich for Sadio Mané
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-reject-25m-bid-from-bayern-munich-for-sadio-mane-vt9j8v903

For Mane, this transfer fee is really low. No wonder the offer was rejected. If Bayern München really want to make this transfer, they have to sacrifice a bigger amount of money. If the number increases, this transfer can take place. Mane will do well in Germany. The most important thing is, of course, what they will do in the Champions League. They are already expected to be champions in the Bundesliga again. Big transfers are not made for local success.

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June 06, 2022, 04:28:47 PM
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According to the British Times, the official offer is around 25 million euros + 5 million in bonuses: If they win the Champions League. So it's just only a poker of the sum to be paid and mane will play in the coming season at FC Bayern. I think that is 99% save.

Liverpool reject £25m bid from Bayern Munich for Sadio Mané
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-reject-25m-bid-from-bayern-munich-for-sadio-mane-vt9j8v903

For Mane, this transfer fee is really low. No wonder the offer was rejected. If Bayern München really want to make this transfer, they have to sacrifice a bigger amount of money. If the number increases, this transfer can take place. Mane will do well in Germany. The most important thing is, of course, what they will do in the Champions League. They are already expected to be champions in the Bundesliga again. Big transfers are not made for local success.

In fact, is really strange to see an offer for Sadio Mane at only £25m. I guess that his value is at least 3x more than of this one, maybe Bayern if is really interested will re-launch with another offer more higher than this one.

My question is, how Mane will play the next year in Bayern Munich?  Huh

 
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June 06, 2022, 04:43:57 PM
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Even if Sadio Mane and Salah leaves Liverpool, they will do well.

a few hours ago I saw news that bayern was offering 27 million per mane, but liverpool wants 41 million dollars, this opens up hope for the man not to leave liverpool, honestly I don't see any advantage in him leaving liverpool, the guy is a player with a guaranteed place in liverpool because he wants to leave a good team where he has a guaranteed place to go to a team like bayer where they don't even have to work hard to win the bundesliga? about salah i believe he will stay in liverpool. the question here is how the liverpool coach will deal if mane really leaves liverpool, luiz diaz is a great player, diogo jota too, but they will need to have a player who also has the same characteristics as him. looking at our main opponent, City, I would say that next season we are lost, City will be 2X stronger than this season in terms of attack

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What kind of enhancement are you referring to? ETH had no business with out-of-contract players leaving the club; there is nothing he could do to prevent that from happening, and he has no 100% control over who the club wants; he is not given the power to oversee transfers; his only job is to make suggestions on which players he would like to work with, but it is up to the club to decide what is best for the club's interests. He has yet to begin a single training session, but you're already tired of him? Grin

Lol Grin that's why I said that I "still haven't seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Because if Erik Ten Hag had started coaching Manchester United players, the sentence would automatically be "I have seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Is this logical enough to play on words? Don't get stuck !!  Grin

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In fact, is really strange to see an offer for Sadio Mane at only £25m. I guess that his value is at least 3x more than of this one, maybe Bayern if is really interested will re-launch with another offer more higher than this one.

My question is, how Mane will play the next year in Bayern Munich?  Huh
That's right. This price is clearly not in accordance with the quality of Mane in my opinion and it is clearly very cheap and it is very reasonable for Liverpool to refuse because it would be outrageous to agree to this price.
Mane's future will still be possible at Bayern provided Bayern make a more reasonable deal here as 25 million Euros for a Mane would be like an insult

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Even if Sadio Mane and Salah leaves Liverpool, they will do well.

a few hours ago I saw news that bayern was offering 27 million per mane, but liverpool wants 41 million dollars, this opens up hope for the man not to leave liverpool, honestly I don't see any advantage in him leaving liverpool, the guy is a player with a guaranteed place in liverpool because he wants to leave a good team where he has a guaranteed place to go to a team like bayer where they don't even have to work hard to win the bundesliga? about salah i believe he will stay in liverpool. the question here is how the liverpool coach will deal if mane really leaves liverpool, luiz diaz is a great player, diogo jota too, but they will need to have a player who also has the same characteristics as him. looking at our main opponent, City, I would say that next season we are lost, City will be 2X stronger than this season in terms of attack
I don't know why Liverpool are underestimating the impact of Sadio Mane, he is undisputed in that squad, they should show him more love by increasing his salary,he is not asking of too much, if he is to go to Manchester United or Chelsea they will pay him more than what he want Liverpool to pay him, I know they will be thinking that Luis Diaz can replace all they need is get a new striker but I think Sadio Mane should be giving more respect.

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What kind of enhancement are you referring to? ETH had no business with out-of-contract players leaving the club; there is nothing he could do to prevent that from happening, and he has no 100% control over who the club wants; he is not given the power to oversee transfers; his only job is to make suggestions on which players he would like to work with, but it is up to the club to decide what is best for the club's interests. He has yet to begin a single training session, but you're already tired of him? Grin

Lol Grin that's why I said that I "still haven't seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Because if Erik Ten Hag had started coaching Manchester United players, the sentence would automatically be "I have seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Is this logical enough to play on words? Don't get stuck !!  Grin

Well, improvement is not going to be so fast. Manchester United will have to wait for it because they have not played well at all this season and a lot of players are going to leave Manchester United.

So, the coach will have to work with absolutely a new team basically. Erik ten hag is also trying to make some change in the Manchester United team and the way Manchester United have played the last season was absolutely bad. They have no chemistry with each other and the intention was more like not losing instead of winning. I hope EtH will be able to change that.

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Lol Grin that's why I said that I "still haven't seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Because if Erik Ten Hag had started coaching Manchester United players, the sentence would automatically be "I have seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Is this logical enough to play on words? Don't get stuck !!  Grin
You've gotten lost in your sentence. What were the expectations for someone in his first few days at the office whose players are on international duty? You didn't make any point.

So, the coach will have to work with absolutely a new team basically. Erik ten hag is also trying to make some change in the Manchester United team and the way Manchester United have played the last season was absolutely bad. They have no chemistry with each other and the intention was more like not losing instead of winning. I hope EtH will be able to change that.
He inherited a poor team with many positions to fill, so I wouldn't expect any Manchester United fans to have high hopes for him this season. Not every manager exploits in their first two years in charge. Klopp spent nearly three years digging Liverpool out of the mud.

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Lol Grin that's why I said that I "still haven't seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Because if Erik Ten Hag had started coaching Manchester United players, the sentence would automatically be "I have seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Is this logical enough to play on words? Don't get stuck !!  Grin
You've gotten lost in your sentence. What were the expectations for someone in his first few days at the office whose players are on international duty? You didn't make any point.

So, the coach will have to work with absolutely a new team basically. Erik ten hag is also trying to make some change in the Manchester United team and the way Manchester United have played the last season was absolutely bad. They have no chemistry with each other and the intention was more like not losing instead of winning. I hope EtH will be able to change that.
He inherited a poor team with many positions to fill, so I wouldn't expect any Manchester United fans to have high hopes for him this season. Not every manager exploits in their first two years in charge. Klopp spent nearly three years digging Liverpool out of the mud.

Sure sir. I guess that this first year will be an year of experiment for Ten Hag. I don't believe that he can do more than Rangnick. I hope that the club will give to him the possibility to build a project in way to demonstrate

his ability. I don't think that he will do something of good, as I said Ten Hag, like the other dutch manager, are good only in their country. But I can be wrong and we could have a big surprise  Grin

 
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I have to say even "good" managers could end up eventually getting worse overtime. Like Ole wasn't really that terrible when he took over, Man United was doing terrible before he came along, and he took them to second place last year right? Just last year they were second team in the league, ranking even above Liverpool. That should show you that Ole wasn't really a terrible manager at all. However, this year he was so bad that he got sacked. So I believe that Erik could end up the same way, just because he may end up getting a few wins during the early season, or even have one good season, do not assume that he will be the next SAF.

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First of all, this is outdated data, right? After all, Mbappe is definitely not in 7th place right now. Also, this is official data, but everyone knows that some clubs (such as City and PSG) are engaged in fraud and pay players extra money through front companies "for consulting services" and "advertising contracts". If we take into account this shadow side of the market, then the situation with wage inflation will be even more clearly visible.

As far as I've heard Mbappe's wages are the most now. However, I have not seen any official news regarding this yet. However, the interesting thing is that none of the 7 players mentioned in the list, except Mbappe, any player on this list did play well in last season. Since the clubs are paying them high wages, the club naturally expects a lot from them. But the players have completely failed to meet expectations.

Officially, his salary is 57 million a year after taxes. Plus bonuses that in three years bring this earnings to 300 million, though I can’t understand with or without salary - but in any case, this is a cosmic amount.
As for the performance of the players, this is a good observation, but I would say that only Bale, Hazard and Grinzman clearly failed, the rest more or less worked their salaries. Someone is better, someone is worse, but at a decent level.

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June 06, 2022, 06:36:01 PM
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Even though it seemed almost certain that Di Maria would play for Juventus from next season, there are now some complications. The biggest problem seems to be in the contract length. Juventus wants him to sign a 2-year contract, but Angel only wants a 1-year deal because his wish is to end his playing career in Argentina. Barcelona has now stepped in and although I haven't read anything yet about the type of contract they are ready to offer him, he might prefer going back to Spain than going to Juve.   

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According to the British Times, the official offer is around 25 million euros + 5 million in bonuses: If they win the Champions League. So it's just only a poker of the sum to be paid and mane will play in the coming season at FC Bayern. I think that is 99% save.

Liverpool reject £25m bid from Bayern Munich for Sadio Mané
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-reject-25m-bid-from-bayern-munich-for-sadio-mane-vt9j8v903

For Mane, this transfer fee is really low. No wonder the offer was rejected. If Bayern München really want to make this transfer, they have to sacrifice a bigger amount of money. If the number increases, this transfer can take place. Mane will do well in Germany. The most important thing is, of course, what they will do in the Champions League. They are already expected to be champions in the Bundesliga again. Big transfers are not made for local success.

€25 million is an absolutely small amount for Sadio Mane. I really don't know how the player is not worth close to €50 million at least. He is going to have a big effect on whichever team he decides to go to and he is going to produce overall stats. I think he deserves way more than €25 million. Let's see if Bayern Munich continues their pursuit of this player.

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There are some interesting rumours about Gabriel Jesus now. It is said that Arsenal are prepared to pay £190,000 per week to him to bring him this summer. It means that he will earn £100,000 more weekly. It would be a very favorable deal for Gabriel Jesus I assume. After Erling Haaland's coming here, Gabriel Jesus won't be able to have much chance in the end. It would be the best for him to leave and join a team that he can play in the starting eleven regularly. Arsenal are one of the best choices for him because of that.
It is very much obvious that Jesus has to leave Manchester City at this time. There is no doubt that he is a good player, but I am not sure he is better than any of the men at the front (Forden, Sterling, Grealish, Haaland and Mahrez). His best bet would be to leave and if Arsenal has offered him upto £190k per week, it is a good business.
But Mt concern is that can we know how much that the likes of Saka earns. Arsenal should be careful before they cause financial and wages crisis in their team, they are not Psg.
Gabriel Jesus really suits arsenal, because there he will have a good playing time, he already has premier League experience  and Arteta already knows him well from there time together at Manchester City but I will still say that arsenal still need another striker to add with Gabriel Jesus if they have a strong ambitious to win the league then players like Lautaro Martinez or Darwin Nunes should be on there lists but I don't think the arsenal board will not support Arteta with another striker.
Arsenal may likely end up not signing Gabriel Jesus and I won't be even surprised about it. I really don’t think Gabriel Jesus is the player Arsenal should sign if they are retaining Eddie Nketiah. In real sense, there's really no wisdom in having two physically similar strikers in the same team. Arsenal don not like spending money on players, their decision making in transfer window over the years has not been the best.

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June 06, 2022, 07:25:08 PM
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Even though it seemed almost certain that Di Maria would play for Juventus from next season, there are now some complications. The biggest problem seems to be in the contract length. Juventus wants him to sign a 2-year contract, but Angel only wants a 1-year deal because his wish is to end his playing career in Argentina. Barcelona has now stepped in and although I haven't read anything yet about the type of contract they are ready to offer him, he might prefer going back to Spain than going to Juve.   
Angel Di Maria is a top class striker regardless of his age. PSG refusal to renew his contract is heartbreaking because he has given his best to the team and deserves that preference of contract renewal. But because of the quality strikers at the clubs disposal they find it very easy to drop a prolific winger. The contract length shouldn't be a problem. It would be quit safer for Juventus to sign a one year contract because Angel is 34 and his performance for the next two years is unpredictable. They should sign a one year contract with a clause of one year renewal. If Juventus have a good campaign next season, Angel Di Maria would be lured or enticed to sign a new contract. He can still end his career in Argentina even at the age of 36.

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June 06, 2022, 07:28:57 PM
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In fact, is really strange to see an offer for Sadio Mane at only £25m. I guess that his value is at least 3x more than of this one, maybe Bayern if is really interested will re-launch with another offer more higher than this one.

My question is, how Mane will play the next year in Bayern Munich?  Huh
That's right. This price is clearly not in accordance with the quality of Mane in my opinion and it is clearly very cheap and it is very reasonable for Liverpool to refuse because it would be outrageous to agree to this price.
Mane's future will still be possible at Bayern provided Bayern make a more reasonable deal here as 25 million Euros for a Mane would be like an insult

It is true that the price is not fair for a talisman such as Mane, but with a year left on his contract and Liverpool unwilling to increase his wage cap. it is a fair deal. Its either Liverpool cash in 25m or lose him for free in just 9 months. The same can be reported for salah, but it remains to be seen which clubside has offers for Salah
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I have heard that Bayern Munich already made an offer for Sadio Mane which equals to a sum around 25 million pounds. But Liverpool turned it down. It is a funny offer to me honestly because his current market value is 80 million euros but the offer is even below the half of his value. I'm aware of a fact that Sadio Mane is 30 years old now but he is still a very productive player. He is among one of the best players now so I believe he deserves a proper deal. He wants to leave Liverpool anyway though so I wonder if he will be unhappy about Liverpool's action.
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