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June 06, 2022, 08:04:03 PM
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The one abandoned midfielder Donny Van de Beek who got signed during Ole era but was later ruled out of his plan and also the next temporal manager, Ralf Ragnick who took over didn't include him in his game plan. It was one hell of a season for the 25years Dutchman. But United new boss, Erik Ten Hag who happens to be Ajax former boss is looking forward to include Van de Beek in his plans and also in pursuit to sign Frank De Jong from Barcelona. It seems Erik Ten Hag will probably put United back on track.



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June 06, 2022, 08:06:28 PM
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Robert Lewandowski has once again and this time in a polish podcast spoken about his situation at bayern munich and as he admits he has already finished with this club inwardly
he said, among other things: 'After a road full of success and also what I gave of myself to this club, loyalty and respect is more important than business," he said. And he added with sadness: - I was not wanted to be heard after so many years. Something was extinguished inside me. And you can't make up for it, even if you are very professional. (...) I spent eight beautiful years at Bayern and I would like that to stay in my mind. Pride or hubris - no one wins on this.'

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June 06, 2022, 08:11:20 PM
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I have to say even "good" managers could end up eventually getting worse overtime. Like Ole wasn't really that terrible when he took over, Man United was doing terrible before he came along, and he took them to second place last year right? Just last year they were second team in the league, ranking even above Liverpool. That should show you that Ole wasn't really a terrible manager at all. However, this year he was so bad that he got sacked. So I believe that Erik could end up the same way, just because he may end up getting a few wins during the early season, or even have one good season, do not assume that he will be the next SAF.

My personal take on managers is, that there are only a few trainers in Europe that are really so good that they can really come to any club and make the whole club and it's players noticeable better and where you can also definitely see that they are able to change the way that those teams play football. For me the most well known of such great coaches are Jürgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola, Antonia Conte and Thomas Tuchel. For me most of the other coaches including the one that are currently working for big and well known clubs are not that good in terms of teaching a way of football to the players.
Of course a coach like Ancelotti at Real Madrid does not really need to be that kind of coach, because that team has a lot experience already. There it is enough if you keep the players happy and Ancelotti is probably the best in that regard.
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June 06, 2022, 08:14:44 PM
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Robert Lewandowski has once again and this time in a polish podcast spoken about his situation at bayern munich and as he admits he has already finished with this club inwardly
he said, among other things: 'After a road full of success and also what I gave of myself to this club, loyalty and respect is more important than business," he said. And he added with sadness: - I was not wanted to be heard after so many years. Something was extinguished inside me. And you can't make up for it, even if you are very professional. (...) I spent eight beautiful years at Bayern and I would like that to stay in my mind. Pride or hubris - no one wins on this.'

He has a good speechwriter. But who am I kidding - these touching stories are of no interest to anyone in the adult business that football is. If he loves Bayern so much, then why the hell did he start this whole scandal instead of fulfilling his contract normally and then discussing a new one if they offer it, or leave - after all, if the club thinks that you have ceased to meet its requirements, then why impose?

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June 06, 2022, 08:17:07 PM
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€25 million is an absolutely small amount for Sadio Mane. I really don't know how the player is not worth close to €50 million at least. He is going to have a big effect on whichever team he decides to go to and he is going to produce overall stats. I think he deserves way more than €25 million. Let's see if Bayern Munich continues their pursuit of this player.

I'm sure they will. When FC Bayern has chosen a player in the past, they have been consistent and almost always successful. It's tactics in a transfer to save money. It's typical German = organised and fixed. For me it's only a question of money. And I'm sure they want to know if Lewandowski has signed somewhere else, that would save a big yearly salary.

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June 06, 2022, 08:17:38 PM
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When Sadio Mane leaves Liverpool, they will find it hard to replace Mane. Liverpool have a wage bill they want to keep. Mane deserves an upgrade with his salary, Mane's salary is £100k and Salah is earning £200 that's not fair, Mane and Salah case is similar to Ronaldo and Benzema in Real Madrid. Madrid only found the value of Benzema when Ronaldo left the club. Liverpool owner should upgrade the salaries of his players. I know clubs are very reluctant to change their wage structure.

The gap between mene and Mohammed allowance is so big and it is not fair, mene is a playing a good role in Liverpool just the way Salah I'd playing a good.  If mene leaves Liverpool,  Liverpool will really miss him .
It's a general belief that Liverpool fans prefer Salah to Sadio Mane, they worship Salah as their golden boy and gives Mane the normal treatment. Both players are system players and will likely fail elsewhere when the system isn't suitable.  Tbh I don't think Salah is that much of a big deal than Mane. In fact, when they have faced each other, Mane ratings in those games are higher.
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June 06, 2022, 08:23:59 PM
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Even though it seemed almost certain that Di Maria would play for Juventus from next season, there are now some complications. The biggest problem seems to be in the contract length. Juventus wants him to sign a 2-year contract, but Angel only wants a 1-year deal because his wish is to end his playing career in Argentina. Barcelona has now stepped in and although I haven't read anything yet about the type of contract they are ready to offer him, he might prefer going back to Spain than going to Juve.   

Of course he may want to return to Spain, but I think Juventus will accept a 1-year contract for Di Maria. Even if it's only for one year, Di Maria will add strength to Juventus. Juve, which plans to get the maximum efficiency from Di Maria, has already started to make plans for the championship next year. If we think like Di Maria, she is right. It is the most natural right for him to want to finish football in his own country.

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June 06, 2022, 08:25:31 PM
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It seems like Barcelona have started to be interested in a probable Salah transfer too. There are some rumours about them like they said to Salah that he can join them next summer. I wonder what Salah will think about this. Barcelona would be one of the best alternatives for him I think. Their style is quite good for him to adapt. We haven't seen him in the La Liga yet maybe but I'm confident that he can adapt there too. Barcelona will need to fix their finance until then to be able to meet his demands easier if he decides to join them.
At first I was skeptical that Salah was no match for a club other than Liverpool, but if Barcelona were really interested in a player as great as Salah that would be good news. Given that Barcelona has now risen and can be more stable. It was not only Salah who was rumored to be withdrawn by Barcelona, there was still Lewandowski who had also been the target of Barcelona. If these two players meet in one club it will not be too difficult for Barcelona next season to appear more perfect. Collaborating with Aubameyang is an ideal formation. But the problem is whether Barcelona's finances are now really in a fully supportive condition?

It is an important question to ask, yeah. Barcelona's financial condition hasn't been well for a long time. They have made some sponsorship deals like one of them was with Spotify (If I'm not wrong). However, their current finance might still be unreliable. They might need to sell some players who are worth good amount of money. Frenkie de Jong has been monitored by Manchester United for some time and they seem determined to bring him to the Premier League. This deal can help the team finances a lot but let's see if they will sell him.

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June 06, 2022, 08:25:57 PM
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Christian Eriksen to Manchester United will certainly be a good move, Erik Ten Hag needs to bring him in and start him too. Bruno Fernandes will have a competition if the deal eventually goes through. He needs to fight for his place and raise his game as it seems like he has become too comfortable and lackluster in Manchester United.
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June 06, 2022, 08:32:20 PM
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Christian Eriksen to Manchester United will certainly be a good move, Erik Ten Hag needs to bring him in and start him too. Bruno Fernandes will have a competition if the deal eventually goes through. He needs to fight for his place and raise his game as it seems like he has become too comfortable and lackluster in Manchester United.

Bruno Fernandes was playing very well until last year, but now he is far from his old performance. I thought they would make a good match with Ronaldo. They still get along well, but this was not the perfect performance I expected with Ronaldo. I hope there is no problem between them and they continue very well. It is very pleasing to see Ronaldo in the world cup with his national team.

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I have heard that Bayern Munich already made an offer for Sadio Mane which equals to a sum around 25 million pounds. But Liverpool turned it down. It is a funny offer to me honestly because his current market value is 80 million euros but the offer is even below the half of his value. I'm aware of a fact that Sadio Mane is 30 years old now but he is still a very productive player.

Bayern Munich is trying to lowball on Mane because Mane has shown that he is interested on moving away this season. Aside from that Mane's contract expires next year so its either Liverpool sell him right now or let him go for free next year because Liverpool might not even renew his contract due to the increment of wages that he asked for ( also not to mention that their main star Salah asked for the same terms as well so they are kinda in pinch right now )

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Robert Lewandowski has once again and this time in a polish podcast spoken about his situation at bayern munich and as he admits he has already finished with this club inwardly
he said, among other things: 'After a road full of success and also what I gave of myself to this club, loyalty and respect is more important than business," he said. And he added with sadness: - I was not wanted to be heard after so many years. Something was extinguished inside me. And you can't make up for it, even if you are very professional. (...) I spent eight beautiful years at Bayern and I would like that to stay in my mind. Pride or hubris - no one wins on this.'

This whole situation in Bayern is quite strange. Lewandowski will probably end his career in 2-3 years, so he could safely stay in Bayern until retirement. He still has the current contract and instead of being happy that they want him so much, he starts to invent strange stories. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a media game to somehow update his contract. Unless he's already secured some huge contract with another team.

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June 06, 2022, 08:45:22 PM
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Robert Lewandowski has once again and this time in a polish podcast spoken about his situation at bayern munich and as he admits he has already finished with this club inwardly
he said, among other things: 'After a road full of success and also what I gave of myself to this club, loyalty and respect is more important than business," he said. And he added with sadness: - I was not wanted to be heard after so many years. Something was extinguished inside me. And you can't make up for it, even if you are very professional. (...) I spent eight beautiful years at Bayern and I would like that to stay in my mind. Pride or hubris - no one wins on this.'

It is a really interesting situation if you ask me. Because some sources are claiming that he is going to stay and some of them are saying the completely opposite of this. Truthfully, I believe that he will leave the team this summer. It is obvious that he is still having money related issues with his team and I think it is time for him to start a new adventure. It has been a great joy for me to watch him in the Bundesliga for so many years. But I think that it would be really good to watch him in another big league too.

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June 06, 2022, 09:20:14 PM
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The one abandoned midfielder Donny Van de Beek who got signed during Ole era but was later ruled out of his plan and also the next temporal manager, Ralf Ragnick who took over didn't include him in his game plan. It was one hell of a season for the 25years Dutchman. But United new boss, Erik Ten Hag who happens to be Ajax former boss is looking forward to include Van de Beek in his plans and also in pursuit to sign Frank De Jong from Barcelona. It seems Erik Ten Hag will probably put United back on track.
in this case it was indeed the wrong decision when he released Van De Beek to Everton and now that Ten Hag is there then it is certain that he will return.
He's a pretty good player in my opinion but indeed the opportunities that Ole and Rangnick have given him are very few which makes him feel frustrated at United.
But their current new boss seems to want this player to be in the main squad

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June 06, 2022, 09:29:34 PM
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Of course he may want to return to Spain, but I think Juventus will accept a 1-year contract for Di Maria. Even if it's only for one year, Di Maria will add strength to Juventus. Juve, which plans to get the maximum efficiency from Di Maria, has already started to make plans for the championship next year. If we think like Di Maria, she is right. It is the most natural right for him to want to finish football in his own country.
Di Maria is not young anymore (34 years old) but he is still an extraordinary player. Juventus really want to improve massively (players) so they can get trophies next season

1 more year is a good time for di Maria to play in Europe and retire from football in his country

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June 06, 2022, 09:39:00 PM
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In fact, is really strange to see an offer for Sadio Mane at only £25m. I guess that his value is at least 3x more than of this one, maybe Bayern if is really interested will re-launch with another offer more higher than this one.

My question is, how Mane will play the next year in Bayern Munich?  Huh
That's right. This price is clearly not in accordance with the quality of Mane in my opinion and it is clearly very cheap and it is very reasonable for Liverpool to refuse because it would be outrageous to agree to this price.
Mane's future will still be possible at Bayern provided Bayern make a more reasonable deal here as 25 million Euros for a Mane would be like an insult

But it's an even bigger insult to pay Mane 100k wages and Salah 200k because Mane clearly plays the same if not better. I think he's better off moving to another team, but the 25 million price tag... Yes, it's very low, but who knows, maybe it would be better for him? If I were Mane, I'd look towards other teams.

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June 06, 2022, 09:43:05 PM
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Christian Eriksen to Manchester United will certainly be a good move, Erik Ten Hag needs to bring him in and start him too. Bruno Fernandes will have a competition if the deal eventually goes through. He needs to fight for his place and raise his game as it seems like he has become too comfortable and lackluster in Manchester United.
But his position is the same as Bruno Fernandes, I don't think they will play together. If you mean Eriksen will trigger Bruno Fernandes to play better because of competition for a regular spot in lineups, it is not needed. There is no problem with Bruno Fernandes, he played quite well in the last season. I even think Bruno Fernandes may consider leaving Man United if Eriksen comes. So, what for to sign Eriksen? There is no advantage to adding more players with the same position as Bruno Fernandes.

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June 06, 2022, 10:00:18 PM
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Christian Eriksen to Manchester United will certainly be a good move, Erik Ten Hag needs to bring him in and start him too. Bruno Fernandes will have a competition if the deal eventually goes through. He needs to fight for his place and raise his game as it seems like he has become too comfortable and lackluster in Manchester United.
But his position is the same as Bruno Fernandes, I don't think they will play together. If you mean Eriksen will trigger Bruno Fernandes to play better because of competition for a regular spot in lineups, it is not needed. There is no problem with Bruno Fernandes, he played quite well in the last season. I even think Bruno Fernandes may consider leaving Man United if Eriksen comes. So, what for to sign Eriksen? There is no advantage to adding more players with the same position as Bruno Fernandes.

You are right. Bruno Fernandes is a very talented player. He also played well enough last season. It is foolish and a waste of money to buy Eriksen for the same position now. But my guess is that Manchester United wants to get Eriksen in the team as a substitute for Pogba. However, I don't think there will be any improvement in their performance until Manchester United change their coaches. Their squad was very strong in the previous season, but they did not play well against the weaker teams. Their problem is in match strategy, not the players.

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June 06, 2022, 10:19:13 PM
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Even though it seemed almost certain that Di Maria would play for Juventus from next season, there are now some complications. The biggest problem seems to be in the contract length. Juventus wants him to sign a 2-year contract, but Angel only wants a 1-year deal because his wish is to end his playing career in Argentina. Barcelona has now stepped in and although I haven't read anything yet about the type of contract they are ready to offer him, he might prefer going back to Spain than going to Juve.   

Of course he may want to return to Spain, but I think Juventus will accept a 1-year contract for Di Maria. Even if it's only for one year, Di Maria will add strength to Juventus. Juve, which plans to get the maximum efficiency from Di Maria, has already started to make plans for the championship next year. If we think like Di Maria, she is right. It is the most natural right for him to want to finish football in his own country.
Well actually juventus or any other italian teams are a perfect place for experienced players like di maria.
He could get more than 1 year contract offer especially if he had great influence.
Im pretty sure that di maria will fit very well into srie a playing style.

We'll see. This 34 years old still has a potential to redeemed.

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June 06, 2022, 10:58:12 PM
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I have heard that Bayern Munich already made an offer for Sadio Mane which equals to a sum around 25 million pounds. But Liverpool turned it down. It is a funny offer to me honestly because his current market value is 80 million euros but the offer is even below the half of his value. I'm aware of a fact that Sadio Mane is 30 years old now but he is still a very productive player.
Bayern Munich is trying to lowball on Mane because Mane has shown that he is interested on moving away this season. Aside from that Mane's contract expires next year so its either Liverpool sell him right now or let him go for free next year because Liverpool might not even renew his contract due to the increment of wages that he asked for ( also not to mention that their main star Salah asked for the same terms as well so they are kinda in pinch right now )
Still, I am quite surprised that a club like Liverpool, which claimed the title of the winner of the Champions League and was one step away from it, cannot pay decent wages to its leaders like Mane and Salah. Still, as far as I understand, Bayern would also not want to raise Lewandowski's salary, so as not to make a huge difference in wages compared to other players. That is, as far as I understand, Mane will not receive the same money as Lewandowski, but the club still does not seek to extend his contract and raise wages. In any case, I also think that 20 million is too small a price for a player like Mane and therefore I agree with Liverpool on this.
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