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June 19, 2022, 12:30:16 PM
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Poll Question:   Will Ten Hag be the guy to bring the glory days back to United?

This seems highly unlikely. There is a vast vast gulf between the top teams (Man City, Liverpool) and Man United. First Man U have to improve to get up to the level of Arsenal/Spurs, then improve further to get up to the level of Chelsea, then improve again to get to the level of Man City and Liverpool.

Maybe the new manager can improve the Man United team, so they win more games and score more goals... but this is a very different proposition to getting them back to the top where they can realistically challenge for top honours.






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June 19, 2022, 12:38:00 PM
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The news from the Bundesliga, I have seen several German media reports that Sadio Mane has agree to join Bayern Munchen, whether true or not I am still waiting for press conferences from both parties.
Bayern Munich and Liverpool have reached an agreement on which to leave, according to Fabrizio his contract fee is €32m and an additional €6m in bonuses and Mane will arrive in Germany to undergo physical tests.
So this news is true, but Mane hasn't been introduced to Bayer Muncih yet. Let's just wait for the press conference, it will definitely be done after undergoing tests.
Mane will be making his debut in the Bundesliga for the start of the season.
Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1538085861430001669

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June 19, 2022, 01:50:17 PM
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The news from the Bundesliga, I have seen several German media reports that Sadio Mane has agree to join Bayern Munchen, whether true or not I am still waiting for press conferences from both parties.
Bayern Munich and Liverpool have reached an agreement on which to leave, according to Fabrizio his contract fee is €32m and an additional €6m in bonuses and Mane will arrive in Germany to undergo physical tests.
So this news is true, but Mane hasn't been introduced to Bayer Muncih yet. Let's just wait for the press conference, it will definitely be done after undergoing tests.
Mane will be making his debut in the Bundesliga for the start of the season.
Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1538085861430001669

I am also hearing that they have agreed to a 41 million transfer fee for Sadio Mane. I think this has been a good transfer for Bayern Munich. Even though it does feel like the money is a little more than everyone expected but I believe it is a good transfer.

Even though he is 30 years old I believe he is capable of playing top-tier football now. If Bayern Munich actually manages to keep Robert Lewandowski I think it is going to be really good news for Bayern Munich. With Robert Lewandowski in the middle and Mane on the left wing, it is going to be a really promising attacking line for Bayern Munich.

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June 19, 2022, 01:55:47 PM
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Cool move for Sardio Mane I wish him good luck in he's New club.He was under paid for the credible job he did for Liverpool side , I think he deserves better than what he was paid ,doesn't make sense to me how he was treated in Liverpool that lead to his departure. During their matches ,Most times he does the job while others takes the credit.

well i don't know what really motivated him to leave liverpool, but if that's what you're saying i can only say that he might even get a lot of money in bayern, he might even win a lot in bundesliga, but he will miss the competitiveness that he had in the premier league and will not see the same thing in the bundesliga and of course he will be able to score many goals in the bundesliga, but the question will be: will he be able to score many goals because he has improved a lot or because he will be playing against very weak opponents and how will he be in a very strong team so everything will be easy for him? I wish him good luck too

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June 19, 2022, 03:01:11 PM
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I would like to share some assumptions about Ten Hag next season as the new manager of Manchester United. In my opinion, Ten Hag is a good coach and has brought a lot of success to Ajax. He has proven his capacity and ability in the Dutch Eredevisie League and has won the best coach title in 2 seasons there as well as several other titles.

Regarding his new assignment for Manchester United, of course, I highly doubt he will be able to bring Manchester United to the peak of its glory, where currently there are many problems that must be resolved properly and gradually. His contract which is expected to run until 2025 will probably give him a chance to change some especially regarding the performance of the team and the players but regarding the pool question then I think it's definitely not. I really doubt it because the Eredevisie is a much lower ranked league than the Premier League.


The Eredivisie are indeed under the Premier League so it took a season or two for Erik ten Hag at Manchester United to rebuild the winning spirit to the Manchester United players.
Erik ten Hag's first season will definitely be a bit of a struggle, but the club and Manchester United supporters will have to be patient.

I do not doubt the capacity of the former Ajax Amsterdam coach during his tenure as the main coach of Manchester United because he will be assisted by an assistant who has memorized the Premier League system and character, namely Steve McClaren.
Erik ten Hag's first season as Man Utd manager wouldn't make difference in comparison with the poor performance of his predecessors, however if the management and board of the club gives him more time to rebuild the team definitely he is going to make some progress and impact on the club in the long run, with exit of players like Edinson Cavani, Jesse Lingard, Juan Mata, Nemanja Matic and Paul Pogba at the end of last season, this gives room for fresh talented players who will form the core of Erik ten Hag new Man Utd squad gradually restore their last glory which is a gradual process.
I am very reminded of Pep Guardiola's statement in 2020 that the dominance of Manchester City and Liverpool will end. At that time, Pep Guardiola considered that there were signs of revival in big Premier League clubs such as Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United. But until now the signs were not seen at Manchester United.

Next season, under the tutelage of Erik ten Hag, I think the signs of Manchester United's revival will be tested again. So far the Red Devils have not done any recruiting at all. Meanwhile, Liverpool and Manchester City have moved quickly and managed to get the players they are after.
Although no players have been recruited yet, there must be another strategy that Erik ten Hag has to face the competition next season, it could be a young player that will be promoted by him.

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June 19, 2022, 03:20:36 PM
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well i don't know what really motivated him to leave liverpool, but if that's what you're saying i can only say that he might even get a lot of money in bayern, he might even win a lot in bundesliga, but he will miss the competitiveness that he had in the premier league and will not see the same thing in the bundesliga and of course he will be able to score many goals in the bundesliga, but the question will be: will he be able to score many goals because he has improved a lot or because he will be playing against very weak opponents and how will he be in a very strong team so everything will be easy for him? I wish him good luck too
I am still confusing about what happen with Sadio Mane leaving Liverpool and become new player for Bayern Munich next season with 40 million euro as transfer values spent by Bayern Munich?. Last season Sadio Mane as regular player and most ever play for Liverpool not only on Primer League but also on UEFA Champion League. Trough last season not any problem between  Mane and Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp and make me asking about what the reason detail about Sadio mane leaving Liverpool. Will he get higher salary with Bayern Munich than get from Liverpool last season or he has another reason why leaving Liverpool.

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June 19, 2022, 03:24:33 PM
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Cool move for Sardio Mane I wish him good luck in he's New club.He was under paid for the credible job he did for Liverpool side , I think he deserves better than what he was paid ,doesn't make sense to me how he was treated in Liverpool that lead to his departure. During their matches ,Most times he does the job while others takes the credit.

well i don't know what really motivated him to leave liverpool, but if that's what you're saying i can only say that he might even get a lot of money in bayern, he might even win a lot in bundesliga, but he will miss the competitiveness that he had in the premier league and will not see the same thing in the bundesliga and of course he will be able to score many goals in the bundesliga, but the question will be: will he be able to score many goals because he has improved a lot or because he will be playing against very weak opponents and how will he be in a very strong team so everything will be easy for him? I wish him good luck too
Sadio Mane will earn smart wage from Bayern Munich. Smart salary but less competitiveness which isn't actually worry until he finds it satisfaction. His wage in Liverpool was low compared to rest squad however it's great wages in Munich. Hope he beats Liverpool on the way to champions league. Mane deserves the best, and Senegalese people are celebrating right now.
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June 19, 2022, 03:29:54 PM
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Cool move for Sardio Mane I wish him good luck in he's New club.He was under paid for the credible job he did for Liverpool side , I think he deserves better than what he was paid ,doesn't make sense to me how he was treated in Liverpool that lead to his departure. During their matches ,Most times he does the job while others takes the credit.

well i don't know what really motivated him to leave liverpool, but if that's what you're saying i can only say that he might even get a lot of money in bayern, he might even win a lot in bundesliga, but he will miss the competitiveness that he had in the premier league and will not see the same thing in the bundesliga and of course he will be able to score many goals in the bundesliga, but the question will be: will he be able to score many goals because he has improved a lot or because he will be playing against very weak opponents and how will he be in a very strong team so everything will be easy for him? I wish him good luck too
To me I have think of many things that made mene to take decision to leave Liverpool for Bayern Munich.  Liverpool was a great team for mene but he was paid below the role he play for the team, mene was a key player for Liverpool with a good talent but he was not noticed because Liverpool already has Mohammed Salah. Mene will be more appreciated in Bayern Munich.
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June 19, 2022, 03:35:47 PM
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Erik ten Hag's first season as Man Utd manager wouldn't make difference in comparison with the poor performance of his predecessors, however if the management and board of the club gives him more time to rebuild the team definitely he is going to make some progress and impact on the club in the long run, with exit of players like Edinson Cavani, Jesse Lingard, Juan Mata, Nemanja Matic and Paul Pogba at the end of last season, this gives room for fresh talented players who will form the core of Erik ten Hag new Man Utd squad gradually restore their last glory which is a gradual process.
Man United's current condition is really messy, so it won't be easy for Ten Hag to fix everything, at least he really should be given plenty of time (maybe it takes 2 seasons). In addition, there must also be support from the boards because what is certain is that Man United will need a lot of money to replace the many players who have left Man United and for that, Ten Hag must not waste it, which he should sign players who can really be useful to the team (not signing high-priced players who end up being a joke, like Solksjaer did when he got Maguire).

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June 19, 2022, 04:07:41 PM
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Erik ten Hag's first season as Man Utd manager wouldn't make difference in comparison with the poor performance of his predecessors, however if the management and board of the club gives him more time to rebuild the team definitely he is going to make some progress and impact on the club in the long run, with exit of players like Edinson Cavani, Jesse Lingard, Juan Mata, Nemanja Matic and Paul Pogba at the end of last season, this gives room for fresh talented players who will form the core of Erik ten Hag new Man Utd squad gradually restore their last glory which is a gradual process.
Man United's current condition is really messy, so it won't be easy for Ten Hag to fix everything, at least he really should be given plenty of time (maybe it takes 2 seasons). In addition, there must also be support from the boards because what is certain is that Man United will need a lot of money to replace the many players who have left Man United and for that, Ten Hag must not waste it, which he should sign players who can really be useful to the team (not signing high-priced players who end up being a joke, like Solksjaer did when he got Maguire).
I agree with this^^ . Given the current state and the manager they are hiring they should try atleast giving some time to manager to make the squad strong again. It's a tough task but they have to make some impactful signings in order to build up the squad. ten Haag took some time to build the squad at Ajax and he will definitely take more time to build squad at United but he will at point make a better squad than what it is now. I like the areas where they are targetting players in transfer market but let's see how well those signings go off.
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June 19, 2022, 04:14:28 PM
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Cool move for Sardio Mane I wish him good luck in he's New club.He was under paid for the credible job he did for Liverpool side , I think he deserves better than what he was paid ,doesn't make sense to me how he was treated in Liverpool that lead to his departure. During their matches ,Most times he does the job while others takes the credit.

I think Sadio Mane has achieved everything there is to achieve with Liverpool, and about his pay I'm very sure how would have gotten a better pay upgrade should he decide to renew his contract, but he seemed to be more interested in embarking on a new challenge, and the club that has been his home for many years decide to honor his decision. Even as an outsider, I hate to see him live, and I'm not sure it can get any better than it was with Liverpool.

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June 19, 2022, 04:26:40 PM
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Cool move for Sardio Mane I wish him good luck in he's New club.He was under paid for the credible job he did for Liverpool side , I think he deserves better than what he was paid ,doesn't make sense to me how he was treated in Liverpool that lead to his departure. During their matches ,Most times he does the job while others takes the credit.

I think Sadio Mane has achieved everything there is to achieve with Liverpool, and about his pay I'm very sure how would have gotten a better pay upgrade should he decide to renew his contract, but he seemed to be more interested in embarking on a new challenge, and the club that has been his home for many years decide to honor his decision. Even as an outsider, I hate to see him live, and I'm not sure it can get any better than it was with Liverpool.
Yes he is looking for new challenges and getting out of his comfort zone so that it can improve his experience by trying out a new League. Although his new team is a team with high dominance in the Bundesliga. I'm wondering whether this will reduce Mane's quality to be competitive or not, because it looks like in his new team he will get things easily.

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If Arsenal pull off the majority of the transfer rumours then it could be a really exciting season at the top again.Liverpool & Spurs have strengthened, City have brought Haaland in & Chelsea haven’t done anything as yet because of the take over.I agree, I think 3-5 is realistic. If they perform very well they might win the Europa league and that will be automatic qualification for the champions league

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Cool move for Sardio Mane I wish him good luck in he's New club.He was under paid for the credible job he did for Liverpool side , I think he deserves better than what he was paid ,doesn't make sense to me how he was treated in Liverpool that lead to his departure. During their matches ,Most times he does the job while others takes the credit.

I think Sadio Mane has achieved everything there is to achieve with Liverpool, and about his pay I'm very sure how would have gotten a better pay upgrade should he decide to renew his contract, but he seemed to be more interested in embarking on a new challenge, and the club that has been his home for many years decide to honor his decision. Even as an outsider, I hate to see him live, and I'm not sure it can get any better than it was with Liverpool.
Yes he is looking for new challenges and getting out of his comfort zone so that it can improve his experience by trying out a new League. Although his new team is a team with high dominance in the Bundesliga. I'm wondering whether this will reduce Mane's quality to be competitive or not, because it looks like in his new team he will get things easily.

With Lewandowski likely to leave Bayern, he will enjoy the spotlight in Bundesliga this season or in next season. I don't think it will affect Mane's performance and instead he will have good career there given the difficulty in Bundesliga. Mane has got the pace, strength and much better play style and I think he will have no problem adjusting at Bayern.
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June 19, 2022, 05:02:45 PM
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Cool move for Sardio Mane I wish him good luck in he's New club.He was under paid for the credible job he did for Liverpool side , I think he deserves better than what he was paid ,doesn't make sense to me how he was treated in Liverpool that lead to his departure. During their matches ,Most times he does the job while others takes the credit.
I think Sadio Mane has achieved everything there is to achieve with Liverpool, and about his pay I'm very sure how would have gotten a better pay upgrade should he decide to renew his contract, but he seemed to be more interested in embarking on a new challenge, and the club that has been his home for many years decide to honor his decision. Even as an outsider, I hate to see him live, and I'm not sure it can get any better than it was with Liverpool.

I heard rumors that Liverpool was not interested in raising Sadio Mane's wages. And so Sadio Mane decided to leave Liverpool. Since he is a professional athlete. So I respect his decision. Although he has been with Liverpool for a long time, he still needs new challenges. Mane is now 30 years old, and it's good time to leave Liverpool. And if he had decided to leave Liverpool a few years later, he would not have been able to join a strong squad like Bayern Munich.

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There are allegations that Fiorentina and Fenerbahçe are interested in Andrea Belotti. The transfer fee of such a valuable player will definitely be high. It's not known whether Fenerbahçe will fall under this cost. Jorge Jesus approved this transfer. After all, who can say no to Belotti? He becomes the star of average teams. Reaches a sufficient number of goals during the year. Ending his contract with Torino at the end of the season strengthens his hand, but still Torino will want to earn a serious income.

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There are allegations that Fiorentina and Fenerbahçe are interested in Andrea Belotti. The transfer fee of such a valuable player will definitely be high. It's not known whether Fenerbahçe will fall under this cost. Jorge Jesus approved this transfer. After all, who can say no to Belotti? He becomes the star of average teams. Reaches a sufficient number of goals during the year. Ending his contract with Torino at the end of the season strengthens his hand, but still Torino will want to earn a serious income.

I believe that Andrea Bellotti is still one of the greatest strikers now. He is just wasting his years continuing to play for Torino. Maybe he is happy to do so now but I don't think so. A really good finisher like him should try his luck with bigger teams. Fenerbahce fans must be excited about these rumours already but I don't expect him to choose Fenerbahce over Fiorentina at the end. He is already too accustomed to playing in the Serie A so his first choice might be a decent Italian team. Fiorentina fit this definition.

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If Arsenal pull off the majority of the transfer rumours then it could be a really exciting season at the top again.Liverpool & Spurs have strengthened, City have brought Haaland in & Chelsea haven’t done anything as yet because of the take over.I agree, I think 3-5 is realistic. If they perform very well they might win the Europa league and that will be automatic qualification for the champions league
It will be enough to finish in the top 4 next season for them to think about the champions league. Instead of winning the European league, it would be more realistic for them to want to finish in the top 4 in the league and prepare a squad accordingly. It would be great if they also win the European league. I hope next year will be a good year for Arsenal.

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June 19, 2022, 05:20:56 PM
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Romelu Lukaku finally came to an agreement at the end that Chelsea have agreed Romelu Lukaku on loan to Inter Milan for 10 million euros plus the addition, so Inter Milan will get Romelu Lukaku back and I hope he can shine again there even on loan.
In this way Chelsea will certainly look for a replacement for Romelu Lukaku who left for Inter.
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There are allegations that Fiorentina and Fenerbahçe are interested in Andrea Belotti. The transfer fee of such a valuable player will definitely be high. It's not known whether Fenerbahçe will fall under this cost. Jorge Jesus approved this transfer. After all, who can say no to Belotti? He becomes the star of average teams. Reaches a sufficient number of goals during the year. Ending his contract with Torino at the end of the season strengthens his hand, but still Torino will want to earn a serious income.

Andrea Belloti killed he's career when he failed to move out.
He had a big career some years back, scoring goals giving assist, would have blossom but he choosed to stay back in Italy.
I don't rate him anymore, he should have explored and moved else where.

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