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Maybe we have previously heard about rumors that Barcelona are interested in bringing Aubameyang back to Camp Nou this summer. But it's not just Aubameyang who is being targeted by Barcelona, but there are two other players from Chelsea who are now starting to be eyed by Barcelona, namely Kante and also César Azpilicueta. Actually, from the age of these two players, they are not young anymore, but it seems that Barcelona is more interested in experience and also a fairly cheap transfer fee. Do you think Barcelona will be able to bring in 1 or 2 players from Chelsea this summer?
I just can't understand how Barcelona is going to hire these two players if they have an unstable financial situation and they cannot afford the salary they have to pay for some players like Gavi. I mean the first priority for the team should be keeping the players they have, on the other hand, if they want to hire Messi they will have an even harder financial situation. With the current conditions, I am actually quite doubtful about the future of Gavi, who is indeed like being tossed around at this time, especially it can be said that his current contract is almost exhausted because their conditions in the previous contract extension were considered canceled and indeed Gavi's current contract is only until June. As for the purchase of more players, this is clearly becoming a bit troublesome I think because of course with that in their current condition which needs fresh funds around 200 million to balance their books there must obviously be some players released. Even though there are already a few on the list such as Busquet and Alba who don't want to extend their contracts but obviously there must be a few more players sacrificed. But currently there are already some big names that they will bring in without thinking about the current financial condition.
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April 25, 2023, 08:11:37 PM |
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I guess that having current players sold and new players hired are different finances somehow. I have absolutely zero idea how that works, but if you sell a player for like 80 million, but then hire players for 10-10 each for 20 million, that is somehow better than having 20 million paid to a single guy? After all you are making a bank on the transfer, so you should be just negative 20 million if you keep gavi, but you would be profiting 60 million if you sell him for 80 and get 2 other players for 10 each. That math checks out but to be fair that is not going to really change anything financially all that much since it will most likely not be a front up payment. But in the end, if this works for them, then it works for them, older players but at the end of the day its not going to cause too much improvement long term, Gavi could have been good long term, so this is saving short term for a worse long term yet again.
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April 25, 2023, 08:14:49 PM |
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I just can't understand how Barcelona is going to hire these two players if they have an unstable financial situation and they cannot afford the salary they have to pay for some players like Gavi. [/quote] I bet some players might be willing to take some pay cut if they can play for Barcelona and also considering that both of those two are currently having hard time to start as regular lineup then I dont think this is an impossible move to happen on the other hand, if they want to hire Messi they will have an even harder financial situation.
Do you honestly think Messi will go back to Barcelona to play for them and reduce his pay cut by tons of it if he can continue to play in PSG? Thats not happening especiall when Messi has nothing more to prove to the world after he won the world cup
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April 25, 2023, 08:15:29 PM |
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With the current conditions, I am actually quite doubtful about the future of Gavi, who is indeed like being tossed around at this time, especially it can be said that his current contract is almost exhausted because their conditions in the previous contract extension were considered canceled and indeed Gavi's current contract is only until June.
As for the purchase of more players, this is clearly becoming a bit troublesome I think because of course with that in their current condition which needs fresh funds around 200 million to balance their books there must obviously be some players released. Even though there are already a few on the list such as Busquet and Alba who don't want to extend their contracts but obviously there must be a few more players sacrificed. But currently there are already some big names that they will bring in without thinking about the current financial condition.
They will probably try to make a new contract when the current contract is finished but as you said, it is a little difficult with the conditions they need big funds. Not to mention that currently there is some news about Messi which is sure to more or less disrupt their financial condition if this really happens in the end. The best thing is indeed to add a few players but on the other hand we also have to be aware of their current condition which still doesn't allow for that.
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April 25, 2023, 08:24:47 PM Last edit: April 30, 2023, 12:58:44 PM by Igebotz |
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Whatever happened to Aubameyang, I think he needs a club that will appreciate his services, and this shouldn't be any top tier club as their demands will be so high for him to meet them ,maybe a club like Leicester if they survive the cut will be the perfect fit anything else will just draw him closer to retirement.
I still have faith in Aubu; he was performing admirably under Tuchel before his dismissal caused the entire team to fall apart. Letting Aubu go would be another terrible decision given that the team currently lacks a natural striker. Aubu is a good finisher with pace; what he needs is a coach who has plans for him and who can make the midfield work. I just hope that whoever the new manager is includes Aubu in their plans for the coming season. He can still play top football for two years, Xavi wants him back, but the decision will be made by the new manager. The only good successor if they decide to let him go would be Osimehn, but I doubt he would leave Napoli for a team without a UEFA competition next season. Chelsea wants to hire Pochettino and you think it's a good idea?
I don't know what the owners are doing right now, but he seems to be the only viable option at the moment. He is not a serial winner, but he does know how to manage a young team and play good attacking football. At PSG, he struggled to handle the team's bigger players, but no coach has ever succeeded there. He is not my choice, but he is more capable and English league-tested than all the other options right now.
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Messi is an amazing player and he proved it in Argentina and Barcelona but recently he cannot have a good performance in PSG and that's all because of not having to focus and not having a good atmosphere in the team, I think Messi will have a much better performance after the returns to Barcelona where the fans love him and he will have the respect he couldn't have in PSG.
I have to admit that I also doubted his abilities at this stage of his career but he has proved me wrong in the just concluded world cup where he led his team to a successful outing with the right players and the right mentality something that PSG are lacking, the right mentality, I don’t think it’s not fair to put all the blame on Messi for the poor performances of the team. I don't even know why they are putting the blame on Messi like he is the only player on the pitch just the same way Ronaldo was carrying the cross for Manchester United's failure do well in the early parts of the season. I think Messi is doing well at PSG even if he is not at his best but his contributions show that he is crucial to the team's successes.
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April 25, 2023, 08:50:12 PM |
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Messi is an amazing player and he proved it in Argentina and Barcelona but recently he cannot have a good performance in PSG and that's all because of not having to focus and not having a good atmosphere in the team, I think Messi will have a much better performance after the returns to Barcelona where the fans love him and he will have the respect he couldn't have in PSG.
Am in doubt if Messi will return to BARCELONA. PSG fans may not like him that much which will somehow affects his performances in PSG, not felling loved by PSG fans can make him leave the club. And his performances will never be the same as when he was in Barca. He was so much loved and his performances were excellent. But PSG fans are suppose to understand that he ia not getting younger anymore, the strength he had while in Barcelona has reduced to some point so they should just accept it the way it is. His presence alone is a huge positive different in the team
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April 25, 2023, 09:01:13 PM |
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 Source: TransfermarktMaybe we have previously heard about rumors that Barcelona are interested in bringing Aubameyang back to Camp Nou this summer. But it's not just Aubameyang who is being targeted by Barcelona, but there are two other players from Chelsea who are now starting to be eyed by Barcelona, namely Kante and also César Azpilicueta. Actually, from the age of these two players, they are not young anymore, but it seems that Barcelona is more interested in experience and also a fairly cheap transfer fee. Do you think Barcelona will be able to bring in 1 or 2 players from Chelsea this summer? I just can't understand how Barcelona is going to hire these two players if they have an unstable financial situation and they cannot afford the salary they have to pay for some players like Gavi. I mean the first priority for the team should be keeping the players they have, on the other hand, if they want to hire Messi they will have an even harder financial situation. It's possible that the rumors of Ngolo Kante moving to Barcelona are purely speculative, driven by the desire of Barcelona fans. Kante has not yet presented a new contract to Chelsea. However, if Barcelona were to acquire Kante, it would be one of the biggest transfer in the upcoming window because Kante has spent a long time in England and may be ready to explore the possibility of winning titles in other leagues, such as Spain, especially since Chelsea has struggled to secure trophies in recent seasons. Regarding Messi's potential return to Barcelona, I think the team may be using emotional manipulation on the public. Messi left the team for financial reasons, Barcelona should not try to bring him back to the same problems he faced before, unless they are willing to clearly outline and agree upon contractual terms. This will prevent them from later blaming Messi for not caring about the club, because historically, he has already done his part for Barcelona.
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April 25, 2023, 09:40:33 PM |
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~~~ Do you honestly think Messi will go back to Barcelona to play for them and reduce his pay cut by tons of it if he can continue to play in PSG? Thats not happening especiall when Messi has nothing more to prove to the world after he won the world cup
Yes, I think Messi will return to Barcelona because for a player like Messi with the personality he got, that's important to play in a team where he can get the respect he can't get in PSG, sometimes there are many other things more important than the salary he can get, also I think he can get retired like a legend for this team instead of playing in Asian or American teams.
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April 25, 2023, 09:50:00 PM |
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~~~ Do you honestly think Messi will go back to Barcelona to play for them and reduce his pay cut by tons of it if he can continue to play in PSG? Thats not happening especiall when Messi has nothing more to prove to the world after he won the world cup
Yes, I think Messi will return to Barcelona because for a player like Messi with the personality he got, that's important to play in a team where he can get the respect he can't get in PSG, sometimes there are many other things more important than the salary he can get, also I think he can get retired like a legend for this team instead of playing in Asian or American teams. I don't feel that in this case PSG doesn't respect Messi because regardless of any condition he is indeed one of the players who is made like a golden boy there too. His performance is also still quite decent, it's just that there are still many people who expect too much about better conditions even though it is certain that with this age condition it is a bit difficult to do and the current top assists are actually proof that Messi's performance is very good there. On the other hand, for Barcelona, they need to make some moves by releasing lots of players to bring in Messi. It doesn't really matter, it's just that it's a shame if they want Messi, whose time will soon be over at the expense of several young players whose time is just about to grow.
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Yes, I think Messi will return to Barcelona because for a player like Messi with the personality he got, that's important to play in a team where he can get the respect he can't get in PSG, sometimes there are many other things more important than the salary he can get, also I think he can get retired like a legend for this team instead of playing in Asian or American teams.
It may be true but Barcelona already has many good players, Barcelona shouldn't rely on Messi again. Barcelona is better to focus on young players. Young players will have a longer future, so it can guarantee for club future. While Messi is already 35 years old, he won't have a long time to play as a professional player. Also, Barcelona still has a financial problem, they may not be in an ideal condition to pay Messi's salary. Another consideration is no guarantee that Messi will play as expected when he returns to Barcelona. He may fail as C. Ronaldo for his return to Man United, I hope Messi better won't do the same thing.
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April 25, 2023, 10:09:56 PM |
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It's possible that the rumors of Ngolo Kante moving to Barcelona are purely speculative, driven by the desire of Barcelona fans. Kante has not yet presented a new contract to Chelsea. However, if Barcelona were to acquire Kante, it would be one of the biggest transfer in the upcoming window because Kante has spent a long time in England and may be ready to explore the possibility of winning titles in other leagues, such as Spain, especially since Chelsea has struggled to secure trophies in recent seasons.
This allows him to become a replacement for Busquets as he is likely to be away from Barcelona for a long time and Kante could be a good option for that position. But their problem may still be in inadequate financial conditions. the presence of Kante will indeed be a good injection for them in this case but there must be a risk that they have to accept from their current financial condition.
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April 25, 2023, 10:13:10 PM |
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I don't feel that in this case PSG doesn't respect Messi because regardless of any condition he is indeed one of the players who is made like a golden boy there too. His performance is also still quite decent, it's just that there are still many people who expect too much about better conditions even though it is certain that with this age condition it is a bit difficult to do and the current top assists are actually proof that Messi's performance is very good there.
On the other hand, for Barcelona, they need to make some moves by releasing lots of players to bring in Messi. It doesn't really matter, it's just that it's a shame if they want Messi, whose time will soon be over at the expense of several young players whose time is just about to grow.
PSG surely have a big respect to Messi. They were on the line right away to sign Messi after seeing him as free agent. Maybe he needed some time to adapt to a completely new team and strategies but PSG officials didn't see it as a problem at all. We have all witnessed how big effort Messi has made so far after starting to adapt to the style of his new team. His contribution level in this season has also been very big honestly. Xavi says that he would like to have a reunion with Messi if possible but I don't know if this transfer would really happen this summer. Above all else their financial situation will be really important before going for him. Because maybe they can have difficulties again to meet his demands after spending a lot of money on new transfers and salaries. I think it is better to invest into young and talented players for Barcelona.
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April 25, 2023, 10:33:34 PM |
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I just can't understand how Barcelona is going to hire these two players if they have an unstable financial situation and they cannot afford the salary they have to pay for some players like Gavi. I mean the first priority for the team should be keeping the players they have, on the other hand, if they want to hire Messi they will have an even harder financial situation.
I think barcelona main option in the next window of the transfer season will let go of some of their players to balance their expenses in paying players wages. Like Franck Kessie and there are several more names that will be released by Barcelona in the upcoming transfer window. I think barcelona is 100% focused on bringing Messi back to Camp Nou and of course this is the main target that Xavi has prioritized. So, about Kante and Azpilicueta, it is still just a rumor that is not certain to become a reality, but there are many rumours that are developing out there, where the two of them are very much associated with Barcelona. kante and Azpilicueta I think they will be second priority for barcelona in the next transfer window. Indeed, both of them have quite good quality, especially Kante, who can play strongly in building attacks which is very Xavi will really need.
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April 25, 2023, 10:52:14 PM |
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It's possible that the rumors of Ngolo Kante moving to Barcelona are purely speculative, driven by the desire of Barcelona fans. Kante has not yet presented a new contract to Chelsea. However, if Barcelona were to acquire Kante, it would be one of the biggest transfer in the upcoming window because Kante has spent a long time in England and may be ready to explore the possibility of winning titles in other leagues, such as Spain, especially since Chelsea has struggled to secure trophies in recent seasons.
Regarding Messi's potential return to Barcelona, I think the team may be using emotional manipulation on the public. Messi left the team for financial reasons, Barcelona should not try to bring him back to the same problems he faced before, unless they are willing to clearly outline and agree upon contractual terms. This will prevent them from later blaming Messi for not caring about the club, because historically, he has already done his part for Barcelona.
I assume any new contract with Barcelona will be lower in value comparing to the previous season. Even if they get Messi back, his salary will be way lower than his previous one with the club and lower than the one that he actually receives from PSG. If only money matters for him then PSG is the solution. For Chelsea's players, I think getting them for a low price might be interesting to diversify the team. Barcelona will be forced to reduce the wages of its players or find another way for sponsoring..
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April 25, 2023, 11:26:03 PM |
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I just can't understand how Barcelona is going to hire these two players if they have an unstable financial situation and they cannot afford the salary they have to pay for some players like Gavi. I mean the first priority for the team should be keeping the players they have, on the other hand, if they want to hire Messi they will have an even harder financial situation.
Agreed, it seemed for me that if barcelona has been linked to the so many players but this team doesn't even have good financial to buy a single player. Barcelona needs even to sell some players before it will able to sign back messi to join in the club again. I don't even know how accurate this rumor is. Barcelona is always creating so many sensations but it has zero effort at the end of the transfer season. I will not even believe any rumor related to the barcelona until it has good financial condition. ] It has debt that has not been paid. There may be so many players that will be sold by barcelona tot he another team. This is also the main problem that has been facing by the team. Barcelona has no ability to buy the new player anymore. it has no money left.
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I assume any new contract with Barcelona will be lower in value comparing to the previous season. Even if they get Messi back, his salary will be way lower than his previous one with the club and lower than the one that he actually receives from PSG. If only money matters for him then PSG is the solution. For Chelsea's players, I think getting them for a low price might be interesting to diversify the team. Barcelona will be forced to reduce the wages of its players or find another way for sponsoring..
It has been confirmed by so many sources about messi agreed to cut off his salary for barcelona. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomsanderson/2023/03/28/lionel-messi-ready-to-take-pay-cut-for-fc-barcelona-returnreports/?sh=9188da672505Kante may not also agree with the offer from barcelona. Barcelona can offer him very low salary. Staying in chelsea even longer gonna be the best decision that can be taken by kante at this moment. Barcelona was also targeting some players like aubameyang. Aubameyang has been showing how disrespect him towards the club that owned by todd boehly. Chelsea is also interesting to loaned him to the los angeles FC. Chelsea didn't have interest to give back him to the barcelona. His behavior has been making chelsea to fed up with him. It will be better for chelsea to sell him to the other club.
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April 26, 2023, 03:08:53 AM |
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I assume any new contract with Barcelona will be lower in value comparing to the previous season. Even if they get Messi back, his salary will be way lower than his previous one with the club and lower than the one that he actually receives from PSG. If only money matters for him then PSG is the solution. For Chelsea's players, I think getting them for a low price might be interesting to diversify the team. Barcelona will be forced to reduce the wages of its players or find another way for sponsoring..
It has been confirmed by so many sources about messi agreed to cut off his salary for barcelona. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomsanderson/2023/03/28/lionel-messi-ready-to-take-pay-cut-for-fc-barcelona-returnreports/?sh=9188da672505Kante may not also agree with the offer from barcelona. Barcelona can offer him very low salary. Staying in chelsea even longer gonna be the best decision that can be taken by kante at this moment. Barcelona was also targeting some players like aubameyang. Aubameyang has been showing how disrespect him towards the club that owned by todd boehly. Chelsea is also interesting to loaned him to the los angeles FC. Chelsea didn't have interest to give back him to the barcelona. His behavior has been making chelsea to fed up with him. It will be better for chelsea to sell him to the other club. If I am not mistaken the article you linked here is almost 1 month old. I think we know that first of all a lot can change within 1 month and second, if this was already a done deal in any way, it would have been leaked to the public already. I think nothing is safe for now and it is part of the game to drop some info here and there in order to also put pressure on competitors who want to join the negotiations and bids for a player. I still have doubts whether Messi will go back to Barcelona because he would have to drastically cut down his salary. If it didn't work out to pay Messi two years ago, why would it work out now? What has changed in Barcelona since then? Did they cut costs that much? Does Messi think the team is currently strong enough to win the Champions League or would he want Barca to sign more players and are they even able to? I think there are still a lot of open questions that need to be answered first. But yes I agree that there is a chance we are going to see Messi in the Barcelona jersey again.
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April 26, 2023, 04:16:21 AM |
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Messi is an amazing player and he proved it in Argentina and Barcelona but recently he cannot have a good performance in PSG and that's all because of not having to focus and not having a good atmosphere in the team, I think Messi will have a much better performance after the returns to Barcelona where the fans love him and he will have the respect he couldn't have in PSG.
Am in doubt if Messi will return to BARCELONA. PSG fans may not like him that much which will somehow affects his performances in PSG, not felling loved by PSG fans can make him leave the club. And his performances will never be the same as when he was in Barca. He was so much loved and his performances were excellent. But PSG fans are suppose to understand that he ia not getting younger anymore, the strength he had while in Barcelona has reduced to some point so they should just accept it the way it is. His presence alone is a huge positive different in the team The unpleasant treatment that Messi received from PSG fans made him want to immediately go to another club, Messi continues to be linked with Barcelona if his contract at PSG expires at the end of this season, this speculation continues to stick out even though Barcelona financial condition looks unstable. Barcelona is getting ready to make a big move to fulfill its ambition to bring Messi back to Camp Nou. It is reported that Barcelona is ready to sell around five of its players in order to maintain financial conditions that can realize Messi's arrival. Fans demands are too high for Messi, they should ask the club to bring in a classy coach to guide the star players in the PSG squad. Although the PSG squad is filled with all world star players, it does not guarantee that they will be able to win the UCL trophy if the coach is not able to strategize well, that is what PSG is currently experiencing.
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I assume any new contract with Barcelona will be lower in value comparing to the previous season. Even if they get Messi back, his salary will be way lower than his previous one with the club and lower than the one that he actually receives from PSG. If only money matters for him then PSG is the solution. For Chelsea's players, I think getting them for a low price might be interesting to diversify the team. Barcelona will be forced to reduce the wages of its players or find another way for sponsoring..
Barcelona had no money to pay messi with his previous salary. I think that so many sources have been reporting how much will be received by messi. Messi may have the same wages as lewandowski which is having the higest wages in the club right now. barcelona even needs to sell a lot of players first before it will be able to recruit messi. I don't even care anymore about any rumor that linked barcelona tot he another player other than messi caused by the fact that if barcelona has no financial support to make another transaction other than messi. barcelona needs to get 88millions first before it will be able to sign a new contract for messi that will be leaving from PSG soon. It's the time for barcelona to sell shares again until it will be reaching below 51%. That proves that ownership for barcelona was not for public. It's better for the management to consider selling more shares. There have been many investors who are interesting to acquire barcelona. It will better if barcelona to be owned by billioniare rather than public.
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