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July 19, 2024, 10:19:29 AM
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I see a very mature decision made by Southgate to leave his role as coach of the England national team, looking at his statistics in dealing with England, there is nothing satisfactory with the brilliant players that England has, but Southgate is not able to give his best and this is a wise decision he made for the national team England is improving under the new head coach.
Currently there are many names that England is considering to bring a new name to its training bench and the closest is Potter and he is also of British nationality but considering that he is not a suitable name, in my personal opinion England has the opportunity to bring Guardiola to manage the England national team because he is has proven that he can handle teams with big names and I think Guardiola is the most suitable to fill the England coaching bench.
There is no other choice for Southgate, he has been coaching England for a long time but there is no better progress so he has to make that decision, I think this decision is good for both of them, good for Southgate's career and will also be good for the England national team for the future front.

Now there are several coaches being rumored and Guardiola is even the main target to be able to handle the English team, but I think it will be difficult because so far Pep Guardiola has never been a national team coach.
However, with the squad that England currently has, especially the many potential young players they have, I am optimistic enough about the attractiveness of becoming a top coach to want to accept this job.
If we talking about England this team was never lack of talented players and every generations this team always be produce plenty of young talented players but England have one big problem that they have had for decades that everytime playing at big tournaments such as world cup or Euro cup England was never able to performing well and it proven from their achievement because last time England gets the trophy from major competition on world cup 1966 but since that year England always be failed to gets the trophies

If the benchmark is a trophy obviously Southgate was failed because although he can bringing England to advances to the final matches of Euro Cup two times in a row but in fact until now England still no trophies under him but if we see from the statistics obviously England under Southgate is very impressive because when train this team Southgate can bringing England to gets runner up of Euro Cup 2 times and semifinal of world cup and England too can gets 3rd place of Nation League on 2019

I have discuss about this before because seems Guardiola is the strongest candidate to be the manager of England even England has willing to wait until Guardiola contract expired with Manchester City but besides Guardiola i found at least 4 candidates such as Eddie Howe, Maurico Pochettino, Graham Potter and the latest is Thomas Tuchel

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July 19, 2024, 10:39:39 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.
But in the current transfer market seeing big clubs buying young players is no longer a rare thing. Chelsea is even far ahead in bringing in young players among clubs in the Premier League. And Chelsea has been doing it since last season and the result is that Chelsea has indeed discovered an extraordinary talent like Palmer. And in this transfer market Chelsea also brought in more and much younger players. And I wouldn't be surprised if Man United and Man City did it too. But yeah, relying on young players in the back line doesn't look good. But if it works then Man United will have a player for the long term. Now all teams seem to be starting to prioritize team building for the long term. Maybe this was inspired by Barcelona and Real Madrid who were also successful last season in bringing out their young players. Like Arda Guler and Lamine Yamal. And in the coming season I think there will be more young players starting to have a stage in European football.

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July 19, 2024, 10:55:46 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.
A little unfamiliar with the two players but so at a high price maybe the two players have previous quality in the club first then Man United dared to pay dearly even though it was a young player that the club dared to spend to recruit Leny Yoro.
No wonder if there are skeptics why easy players are already expensive, maybe Erik Ten Hag already knows how the player I will not blame him if he plays well.
I want to see how Leny Yoro and Zirkzee perform with Man United and how Erik Ten Hag puts these players right at the club with his formation.

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July 19, 2024, 11:01:19 AM
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Ten Hag efforts will determine the direction of Manchester United next season, he must learn from his failure last season which made it difficult for Manchester United to compete in the EPL. Manchester United statistics last season were far from perfect, their defense line was very chaotic which made it very easy for the opposing team to break into their goal. Ten Hag also needs to bring in quality strikers so that the illnesses experienced by his team last season can be cured.

Manchester United's front line was very blunt, they had difficulty scoring goals even though they were facing a weak team. Ten Hag must choose the right players to fill any gaps in his squad, defense is a priority, he also needs to bring in a new striker to add sharpness to Manchester United's front line.

And look now, Ten Hag has brought in several players, recently Yoro was brought in at a fairly expensive price. So so far there have been no surprising player transfers from Ten Hag selection. Their finances are limited and adding a striker is not necessarily ideal when Erik Ten Hag selection of players is still below standard. I'm not sure about Manchester United fate next season, whether it will improve the situation or remain stagnant. This is no longer about adding players but about the quality of coaches.

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July 19, 2024, 11:12:19 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.

Nowadays the clubs pay very crazy sums and I really wonder to what extent this can be justified economically? In the end, the bubble will explode here like back then with the Immo bubble, this time just the player bubble.

Zirkzee played at FC Bayern Munich, from there I know him but 42 million he is never worth to me.

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July 19, 2024, 11:21:26 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.
I also think that this young defender Leny Yoro is overpriced or overhyped. His transfer fee of £52 Million made him the third expensive teenage signing in the English premier. The first and second position is occupied by Romeo Lavia and Antony Martial respectively. Much is not known to me about his performance in Lille but the interest of some top clubs to grab him shows that he has the quality of a good defender. Real Madrid was making moves to sign the Frenchman's signature but he has preference for Manchester United. These days younger players are showing great potential and I wouldn't be surprised if these young signees become important players in United.

Zirkzee is an excellent signing, I would say a great signing, I saw his performances live on the pitch with my own eyes and to say that he is strong is an understatement considering his young age and his move to a big league he can really make a great championship while for the I won't comment on the other two because I've seen very little in the championships where they played but they certainly won't be bad
The young player is a perfect striker and a good team player. He is strong, has good ball control, and is also tall. He was instrumental to Bologna's qualification to the UEFA Champions League qualification last season with eleven goals and five assists Although he was not used in the just concluded European Nations Cup, he would be a good asset to Manchester United.

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July 19, 2024, 12:16:22 PM
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Manchester United continue to try to add depth to their current squad, last season Manchester United were the worst team in their defense so it is not surprising that Manchester United brought in Leny Yoro at the moment, but what is quite surprising to me is Manchester United courage in buying Leny Yoro even double the original price, competition with Madrid makes it possible for Manchester United to pay more to Lille but to Players his age Obviously if Manchester United are too crazy to spend up to €63 million, Manchester seem to have never learned to buy players so far and they still continue to spend a lot of money to buy players without any prior consideration, previously we saw how Manchester United spent a lot of money to buy Antony, Maguire, Paul Pogba and Van de Beek but their all failed in manchester united,  So that Leny Yoro, who is bought expensively, will also be very burdened with great expectations from Manchester United and will most likely make it difficult for him to develop later.
I'm also a little curious if Yoro purchase was a hasty purchase. Because of course, after this expensive purchase, United fans' expectations of his performance are very high and make no mistake, if Yoro performs poorly in his first season, he will receive harsh criticism like the purchases of Mason Mount and Sofyan Amrabat. In my opinion, as the club with the biggest supporters, Man United will always be required to be able to show their best performance, both as a team as a whole and individually. These high expectations do not only apply to Yoro, but also apply to Joshua Zirkzee and several Man United players whose contracts have been extended.

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July 19, 2024, 12:21:10 PM
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There are many coaches in the world who can work in England and they are not working in any team. Maye Klopp could start working there but he said he is tired and he need some rest which means he is out. Tuchel has not had a good performance recently and some other coaches like Pochettino and Potter can have more chances to start working in England as the next coach.
I think Pochettino can be the best option they can have because he had a good performance at Chelsea.
Southgate failed to bring England to be the champion for the second time and it was very painful because they reached the final with a lot of struggle. From what I saw England did not have a dangerous striker and Harry Kane did not show the class as one of the deadly strikers. After the competition ended, Southgate resigned as coach and I don't know the exact reason but what I saw was because he always failed to give his best for England.

Of the three names you mentioned, I am more interested in Jurgen Klopp than Tuchel or Pochettino. But for Jurgen Klopp, it might take time to convince himself after leaving Liverpool. Preparation after preparation must be done so that England can prepare some new strengths for the future.
The performance of Southgate disappointed me. All of us could see. Our team is full of champions; men like Kane and Foden ought to be igniting the planet. But they were underused, bound by Southgate's subdued methods. Really, keeping Foden on when he is obviously not generating? Winners do not act in this way. You have to call the difficult decisions. Perhaps Palmer, perhaps Watkins might have turned things around against Spain. Southgate lacked the bravery to experiment. There were not the outcomes. England ought better. Regarding Klopp, he is obviously a proven winner. Rebuilding a team in your vision does not happen quickly though. Though its a risk, England could have to make this one.

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July 19, 2024, 12:22:23 PM
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It seems Manchester City doesn't need John Stones anymore and they want to give this player to the Saudis. Since Al Ittihad asked Manchester City about their player, it seems they didn't need Stones and they want to sell Stones to earn some more money.
Manchester City wants to get 40 million euros for Stones which is a high amount of money but since Al Ittihad needs this player, they are ready to pay this money and hire Stones.
Stones joined Manchester City back in 2016.
 

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July 19, 2024, 12:43:57 PM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.

Leny Yoro I'd say was initially interested with the move to Real Madrid, for you to get such a player to Manchester United and not Real Madrid, you cannot go for the same figures presented by Real Madrid. In the nearest future, you'll look back and say that, he is really worth the buy, even at 18, I can vouch for him being better than Harry Maguire. Football has evolved and these are the modern day defenders that thrives. I'm not trying to defend the valuation placed on him, but he's a generational talent ansnis worth the buy.

Joshua Zirkzee has experience, you must have seen him one way or the other playing for Bayern Munich, but long time now. He isnot a bad player, not the type coming into Manchester United with so much expectations and hype. He'll keep a cool head and do a fantastic job. Having both Ruud Van Nistelrooy and Erik Ten Hag ( Both Dutch ) backing him would ne peng.

So many setbacks Erik Ten Hag faced last season because he didn't have a consistent backline who was fitand hundred percent. Great season ahead for the Dutchman.


Yes. Unlike previous transfer periods, MU operates very actively and quickly in the 2024 summer market. Zirkzee has long been considered a modern striker who can reach the level of Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Meanwhile, Yoro is currently considered "Saliba 2.0".
The fact that MU spent more than 60 million euros to buy an 18-year-old player made many people worried. When Yoro came to MU, compared to Ligue 1, the Premier League was much harsher. It would not be an exaggeration to say that this 18-year-old defender has a huge challenge ahead. Overall, Yoro is a gamble worth trying for MU, in the context that this team has just gone through a forgettable 2023/24 season in terms of defense.
As for Zirkzee, At the age of 23, Zirkzee's level is only at the potential level. The most outstanding feature of Zirkzee is his impressive physical appearance. He is 1.93 m tall and always plays with abundant physical strength and a very high spirit of dedication. Zirkzee to MU can replace Anthony Martial. The opportunity for Zirkzee to compete for a starting position is wide open, as Rasmus Hojlund has not yet confirmed his position as coach Ten Hag's numben-o striker. It can be said that MU is tending to learn from Real Madrid's methods. That is recruiting excellent young talents to build a team for the future, instead of spending too much money on established stars.

Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.

I watched Savio from Girona, he is a great lad. Pep Guardiola really made the right call for him to be signed, in the next few months you'd be a fan. With his creativity, I do think he's worth the buy too.


The Brazilian spent an excellent 2023/24 season on loan at Girona, scoring 11 goals and contributing 10 assists. He contributed greatly to helping this team win the right to participate in the Champions League for the first time in history. I think Man City is paying a fairly cheap fee for a potential player like Savio.

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July 19, 2024, 01:21:54 PM
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And look now, Ten Hag has brought in several players, recently Yoro was brought in at a fairly expensive price. So so far there have been no surprising player transfers from Ten Hag selection. Their finances are limited and adding a striker is not necessarily ideal when Erik Ten Hag selection of players is still below standard. I'm not sure about Manchester United fate next season, whether it will improve the situation or remain stagnant. This is no longer about adding players but about the quality of coaches.
I think Manchester United was too brave in transferring Leny Yoro.  £52 million is quite a high figure. And what surprised me was that if I'm not mistaken, Real Madrid only offered Leny Yoro about half of the offer paid by Manchester United. Manchester United seems to be serious about improving their back line which was very bad last season. But yeah, this is a pretty fantastic offer. Hopefully it matches the quality of the player. And now Manchester United are still looking for other defenders to bring in. And one of the names they are currently targeting is Matthijs de Ligt, who is a central defender for Bayern Munich. And it would be very interesting if Manchester United also succeeded in bringing in this player. At least I now really agree with Ten Hag regarding the players he is targeting in the transfer market. Especially for the defender position.

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July 19, 2024, 01:26:04 PM
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Zirkzee is an excellent signing, I would say a great signing, I saw his performances live on the pitch with my own eyes and to say that he is strong is an understatement considering his young age and his move to a big league he can really make a great championship while for the I won't comment on the other two because I've seen very little in the championships where they played but they certainly won't be bad
Bringing the 23 year old striker from Bologna to Manchester United could certainly be a good step for Manchester United next season. Because there are many Manchester United fans who hope that this step will be quite appropriate and can make a quite impressive contribution to the Manchester United team even though the Premier League is a very competitive league so the adaptation of new players entering there will clearly not be easy enough. However, fans hope that the steps taken by the team are not wrong and can produce good results next season.

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I have discuss about this before because seems Guardiola is the strongest candidate to be the manager of England even England has willing to wait until Guardiola contract expired with Manchester City but besides Guardiola i found at least 4 candidates such as Eddie Howe, Maurico Pochettino, Graham Potter and the latest is Thomas Tuchel
Now, I think although Pep is still one of the candidates but I don't think he will be the one to replace Southgate.

Looking at the statistics and history of England who always make local coaches as coaches I think it is clear that for the England national team they will still replace local coaches to become candidates and indirectly it is also difficult for Tuchel and Klopp.

It's just that if this condition continues I think this will also not be very good for England especially with the situation that is happening now we can see that English coaches who have high qualifications are very difficult to find which makes their performance still standard even with a very extraordinary squad in it.

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And now it is official, Morata is back in Italy.
It will be not in his usual city, Turin.

He just signed a long deal with AC Milan and at his age he cannot probably find anything better if he wanted to stay in Europe.
For sure he could find something in Saudi Arabia but he wanted to stay here.

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It seems Manchester City doesn't need John Stones anymore and they want to give this player to the Saudis. Since Al Ittihad asked Manchester City about their player, it seems they didn't need Stones and they want to sell Stones to earn some more money.
Manchester City wants to get 40 million euros for Stones which is a high amount of money but since Al Ittihad needs this player, they are ready to pay this money and hire Stones.
Stones joined Manchester City back in 2016.
Stones has a contract with City until 2026, so he could still play for a few more seasons at City. I have not seen any news that he is going to leave the City and go to Saudi Arabia. He is only 30 years old, which is not much for a defender, and in order to let him go, you need to look for a replacement, and there is not much time left before the start of the new season to rotate the squad. Perhaps these are just rumors, because I haven't seen any mention of a Stones transfer anywhere.

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Manchester City have announced their first big signing of the season, they signed the 20 year old with a release clause of £21 million with a potential further £12.6 million to bring in Savinho from French club Troyes. Even so I don't think it's too expensive for the player which will be an investment for Man City in the future because he has good potential. He was loaned to the Girona club last season and attracted Man City's attention because of his good performance.

It seems like he is very happy to move to Man City because he will be playing with a top Premier League club and under the tutelage of Pep Guardiola, but I am quite curious about Man City's player formation next season because this club already has good strikers and midfielders.
I wonder whether Man City will use this player as their main player next season?  Undecided

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It seems Manchester City doesn't need John Stones anymore and they want to give this player to the Saudis. Since Al Ittihad asked Manchester City about their player, it seems they didn't need Stones and they want to sell Stones to earn some more money.
Manchester City wants to get 40 million euros for Stones which is a high amount of money but since Al Ittihad needs this player, they are ready to pay this money and hire Stones.
Did Man City ever stated that they no longer need John Stones? I never saw any statement from Man City about the possibility of John Stones leaving the club. Even if Al Ittihad is interested to sign John Stones, it doesn't mean Man City no longer needs John Stones. John Stones also never stated anything about his interest to join Saudi league. I think he prefers to stay in EPL, he still has a contract with Man City until 2026.

By the way, I don't think 40 million euros is an expensive price. The market value of John Stones is around 38 million euros, it makes sense if Man City wants 40 million euros. I know John Stones is not a young player anymore, he is 30 years old. But John Stones still could play with his best performance with Man City.

And now it is official, Morata is back in Italy.
It will be not in his usual city, Turin.
He just signed a long deal with AC Milan and at his age he cannot probably find anything better if he wanted to stay in Europe.
For sure he could find something in Saudi Arabia but he wanted to stay here.
He will wear the number 7 Jersey.
It is a perfect place for Morata, and it is great to see him wearing the number 7.
He has a good experience when he played with Juventus. I assume he will fit with AC Milan play style, and AC Milan must guarantee him to be the main striker there. I can't wait to see his performance with AC Milan. I hope he can be in the list of top scorer of Serie A in this season.

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Ten Hag efforts will determine the direction of Manchester United next season, he must learn from his failure last season which made it difficult for Manchester United to compete in the EPL. Manchester United statistics last season were far from perfect, their defense line was very chaotic which made it very easy for the opposing team to break into their goal. Ten Hag also needs to bring in quality strikers so that the illnesses experienced by his team last season can be cured.

Manchester United's front line was very blunt, they had difficulty scoring goals even though they were facing a weak team. Ten Hag must choose the right players to fill any gaps in his squad, defense is a priority, he also needs to bring in a new striker to add sharpness to Manchester United's front line.

And look now, Ten Hag has brought in several players, recently Yoro was brought in at a fairly expensive price. So so far there have been no surprising player transfers from Ten Hag selection. Their finances are limited and adding a striker is not necessarily ideal when Erik Ten Hag selection of players is still below standard. I'm not sure about Manchester United fate next season, whether it will improve the situation or remain stagnant. This is no longer about adding players but about the quality of coaches.
Actually, I still can't say much even though in the last few reports he was also targeted by Madrid but preferred to be at Manchester United for the future he dreamed of later.
The decision has been made and actually Yoro's presence could have been a good decision especially when we know that if we look at his previous performance at Lille as long as he is well guided he can have the potential to be even greater than before because he is quite alert and strong enough as a defender at a very young age.

It depends on Ten Hag now whether he can make Yoro better or just make his career immediately fade just like what happened to Amrabat and Mount last season because after all, potential young players like Yoro if directed properly then I am quite sure he will have an extraordinary performance.

As for filling the defense rather than strikers, I quite agree with this because making strikers sharp by continuing to bring in many players will be useless when their defense is chaotic and in the last few seasons Manchester United have actually still had problems with defense so that with Yoro this could be a breath of fresh air for Mancehster United.

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July 19, 2024, 03:36:24 PM
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Nowadays the clubs pay very crazy sums and I really wonder to what extent this can be justified economically? In the end, the bubble will explode here like back then with the Immo bubble, this time just the player bubble.

But it is undeniable that in recent seasons the actual transfer of players is sometimes difficult to digest because it is indeed for the transfer of players is like a condition that is sometimes a means to burn money.

In the last few seasons even the price of 100 million for a player is a commonplace price and seems to be commonplace whereas in the past, especially when Ronaldo's hype came to Madrid, the price of 80 million was already a record that was difficult for other players to follow but for now it seems that with some conditions and developments in football and the economy that is getting weaker, now 100 million seems normal and many clubs, especially for big clubs without hesitation pay that price.  With the condition of players in a much larger market value, 40 to 50 million seems very standard for the size of a player because regardless of how he performs and whether or not he deserves such a value, it still cannot be changed because the scheme has become a common thing for now.

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July 19, 2024, 03:47:13 PM
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Manchester City have announced their first big signing of the season, they signed the 20 year old with a release clause of £21 million with a potential further £12.6 million to bring in Savinho from French club Troyes. Even so I don't think it's too expensive for the player which will be an investment for Man City in the future because he has good potential. He was loaned to the Girona club last season and attracted Man City's attention because of his good performance.

It seems like he is very happy to move to Man City because he will be playing with a top Premier League club and under the tutelage of Pep Guardiola, but I am quite curious about Man City's player formation next season because this club already has good strikers and midfielders.
I wonder whether Man City will use this player as their main player next season?  Undecided


It stands to reason that Man City would be interested and sign Savinho because the young player played quite impressively last season with Girona and managed to score 9 goals and 10 assists in La Liga. 25 million Euros is an appropriate transfer because it is not only a contribution that Savinho can make but also a potential investment for Man City. Savinho is still very young and will have a great opportunity to grow even better.

I don't think Guardiola will sign players just to put them on the bench but, still to get his place he had to fight for it, which means he has to compete with Doku and Grealish.

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