CryptoKingdom Uncensored

[rpietila]

The Constitution was said to be being rewritten, but was instead deleted along with many other posts.

You can not delete the Topic.

Whereas it is true that I deleted it, as part of waking uw up, it does not change the fact that I wanted it undeleted only a few days later.

The wish was presented to the global admins, who alone CAN do it.

I do not have permission to undelete stuff.

So, which one is in error? (The answer tells the essence of you of course)

You never should have deleted it in the first place--blaming BCT admin is another pathetic attempt to shift blame for your actions.

"If you do not pay back at least 10% of what you stole from me and Zechariah, you will surely die!"
- HH Grand Duke Paul of Soul to HEm David Cardinal Latapie, 2 months prior to the latter's death.

Man, you gotta wise up soon, please, and amend your thefts and sabotages.

[generalizethis]

The Constitution was said to be being rewritten, but was instead deleted along with many other posts.

You can not delete the Topic.

Whereas it is true that I deleted it, as part of waking uw up, it does not change the fact that I wanted it undeleted only a few days later.

The wish was presented to the global admins, who alone CAN do it.

I do not have permission to undelete stuff.

So, which one is in error? (The answer tells the essence of you of course)

You never should have deleted it in the first place--blaming BCT admin is another pathetic attempt to shift blame for your actions.

"If you do not pay back at least 10% of what you stole from me and Zechariah, you will surely die!"
- HH Grand Duke Paul of Soul to HEm David Cardinal Latapie, 2 months prior to the latter's death.

Man, you gotta wise up soon, please, and amend your thefts and sabotages.

You pussed out of  battle, friend--you're lucky I didn't take moar. I also fined you for having books from the future--which any literature fan would applaud given your aim of realism for the other arts.

[boomboom]

One small thought:

On technicality, CK as a company was liquidated the day all shares were bought out for a currency that we all accepted as payment, and one could take the stance that having 55% of all euros doesn't entitle one to ownership of the eu.

Furthermore, the consequent deletion of the Constitution posts from the thread could indicate that this was indeed the intent.

As such, we seemingly have been operating as an unratified confederation until and following this moment in time, with no official bylaws or Constitution.

CK is the database of numbers, and what they represent in the minds of the players. The software is open source, and I don't think there was ever a company. Any future decisions should be based on M holder democracy, so CK is like a DAO.

Before Risto got back, CK was the main ownership asset, and was not a currency. This, under the previous Constitution, was considered ownership of the game platform. it may be better to describe it as a DAO at any point in time, I don't know. But, markka was introduced to my understanding as a currency.

This currency was used to purchase all outstanding CK shares, which were then destroyed. The Constitution was said to be being rewritten, but was instead deleted along with many other posts. To my knowledge a new one was not ratified by anyone in regards to what markka even is, beyond a simple currency. As far as I understand, any previous Constitution was abolished the day CK was destroyed in total.

Moreover, I would expect a democratic union to require more than 51% agreement, but such a number was again never presented or ratified.

Yes, timeline was debt consoles and gold were combined into CK, then converted to M, so my assumption is voting rights went from gold to CK to M. It should be possible to write a new constituion, and I think 50% majority is enough to ratify. The alternative is modify the old one to take into account the obvious changes.

Main point is the authority in the game has gone from mostly risto, to M holders, and whoever they elect as office holders. That gives the game best chance to recover and grow IMHO.

[boomboom]

Any future decisions should be based on M holder democracy, so CK is like a DAO.

If the past decisions had been such achieved, CK would have a future...

This is true, but since you had more than 50% of M you would automatixally win any vote, and it was your b1 debt default and fractional reserve setup that caused the problem. In that situation you left people no alternative, either rise up and rebel against you, or watch the game get destroyed by lack of confidence in the asset values. After any coup the rebels can choose to hand power back to the people when the despot is overthrown.

[acdc]

I thought Gringotts was going to start with deposits only, and freeze withdrawals until things improved ...

The final decision should be made by the depo manager, iluvbitcoins, but I am inclined to leave things up to the market now. I had thought that some form of money back guarantee would be needed to attract deposits, but hopefully the S-PT depositor incentives will do that, and if current confidence levels in the Game are such that new money coming in gets a bargain 'M' exchange rate from existing players exiting, so be it. Manipulating the market isn't good, so we might as well rip the band aide off quickly and establish the exchange rate and marketcap from the get-go. Some blood in the streets makes good buying opportunities for those willing to take a chance on the Game recovering. Gringotts wont start market making until we establish at least a ball-park exchange rate for M.

good idea to let the market decide, I'll be buying a few M

Best time to buy anything is at the bottom, most of my best crypto profits came from picking good coins at a bad time

[rpietila]

I do not have permission to undelete stuff.

blaming BCT admin is another pathetic attempt to shift blame for your actions.

No, the blame is on you, brownnose. See how quickly moderators act (deletion from this thread, despite the tired podiumtalk about non-moderation) when u ask. Then that sad nongrowth, smooth, chastises ME for taking out the shit of my own players by self-moderation.

MODS: PLEASE RETURN RULES (all deleted posts (Apr-2017)) TO THE THREAD: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616976.msg16248889#msg16248889.

If nothing happens, it just serves as an additional lesson for those that still have hope. Seeing the perpetrators commit themselves to act of self-destruction would scarcely displease me more than seeing them alive.

[generalizethis]

I do not have permission to undelete stuff.

blaming BCT admin is another pathetic attempt to shift blame for your actions.

No, the blame is on you, brownnose. See how quickly moderators act (deletion from this thread, despite the tired podiumtalk about non-moderation) when u ask. Then that sad nongrowth, smooth, chastises ME for taking out the shit of my own players by self-moderation.

MODS: PLEASE RETURN RULES (all deleted posts (Apr-2017)) TO THE THREAD: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616976.msg16248889#msg16248889.

If nothing happens, it just serves as an additional lesson for those that still have hope. Seeing the perpetrators commit themselves to act of self-destruction would scarcely displease me more than seeing them alive.

Solution:  "Cryptokingdom Uncensored Uncensored" otherwise known as Risto's Spam Corner

[rpietila]

U sad for Rules to come back?? Don't worry, who was it again who said Constitution has no effect. . 

You get what u wanted, now prepare to get what I want, lizard.

[UtopianNow]

You CK guys are putin' on a great show, seriously thinking of signing up, can I still make money in CK? Crypto combat sports, with Pythonesque humour and madness,

'Wait, Is this the 5 min argument, or the full half hour?'

'WHAT ... I thought this was abuse!'

Do you do John Cleese's funny walks too?


Seriously, keep this up guys, most crypto coins are dull as doge shit these days

[generalizethis]

U sad for Rules to come back?? Don't worry, who was it again who said Constitution has no effect. .  

You get what u wanted, now prepare to get what I want, lizard.

What are you blabbering about? The rules were on a thread you created...or was that one of your other personalities?

[generalizethis]

Okay, care to list who these scammers are who are now running the original game? Also, exactly why they are the scammers in this scenario? As I understand it, the majority (if not all) of those people invested money into a game where one rpietila caused the game to become a fractional reserve by injecting money a worthless token into it - money a token that was backed by absolutely nothing whatsoever and therefore just diluted everything. As a result, those people are now out of pocket to the tune of hundreds of Bitcoins. If I recall correctly, did he not inject something like €100M into the game?

I only see one scammer here.

He didn't inject money, he injected a worthless token he made up that didn't even have a blockchain and was backed by nothing and tried to shill it in the XMR threads. If you go back you will find me calling him out on it then and there, I'm assuming those in the game didn't call him out on it as they wanted to get what they could back before the house of cards came down. So basically he injected a worthless IOU.

Appreciate the correction All I know about this game is what has been posted on the forum here in the scam section, I had not heard about it prior to that.

I used the wrong word when I said injecting "money", it should have been token as the word money would imply there was something backing it up, which we all know there isn't.

It has a use case in game (like any other game), the problem came when he tried to force an arbitrary euro peg--so don't try to characterize the players he fucked over as accomplices--as long as he was backing the deposhares with real euro and bitcoin, there was never a problem--he was literally telling us, "You'll be sorry if you don't trade your B1, E1 and M3 for M," and he did manage to back that claim up a few times by injecting fake b1 and e1 into the game and making those who cashed out look like they got out at a bad rate. I've always thought there should be an exchange asset, but when luigi created one, risto changed the ck asset to m (something I supported at the time without knowing that he would inflate the supply, so I thought it would be a simple 1ck=1m). He is very likely intentionally sabotaging the game, "why" is anyone's guess--though smooth can validate that in slack conversations he was threatening me with that action, because I wouldn't be bribed or bullied into playing the bad guy (this is around the time he started classifying me as dark in posts).

^^This is partly why we need an exchange asset. Many will never see game assets as valuable unless they are backed by a blockchain. And given the damage a terrible gm can have, do you really want your value hinged on their whims? Especially when a gm, who is acting as a player, may have an ax to grind and reduce your value based on their mood--there needs to be a way to lock in your hard work and be master of your own fate. Risto is continually showing us why we should have better protections.

[generalizethis]

I do not have permission to undelete stuff.

blaming BCT admin is another pathetic attempt to shift blame for your actions.

No, the blame is on you, brownnose. See how quickly moderators act (deletion from this thread, despite the tired podiumtalk about non-moderation) when u ask. Then that sad nongrowth, smooth, chastises ME for taking out the shit of my own players by self-moderation.

MODS: PLEASE RETURN RULES (all deleted posts (Apr-2017)) TO THE THREAD: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616976.msg16248889#msg16248889.

If nothing happens, it just serves as an additional lesson for those that still have hope. Seeing the perpetrators commit themselves to act of self-destruction would scarcely displease me more than seeing them alive.

Here--maybe you should look, on the thread you created, before launching into an accusation.

CK Founding Document A.D. 1647 - Rules V.2.0 (working copy)

. Preamble

(edit the earlier "TOS" document)

I General Meeting

The General Meeting of CK holders is called, if:
- the Board so wishes, or
- the owners of 10% of the outstanding CK so demand from the Board for any reason. If the Board does not promptly respond with practical arrangements, it may be held nevertheless.

The General Meeting with its agenda must be announced 7 realdays in advance.

The General Meeting may:
- Change the Documents with a simple majority;
- Change the Founding Document with a 75% majority;
- Decide the number of Board members, which has to be 3-9;
- Appoint the Board members, so that each faction of votes gets to appoint members in proportion;
- Determine the compensation of Board members.

II Board

The Board determines the strategy and oversees the progress of CK project.

The Board may:
- Appoint a Chairman from among the members;
- Appoint a CEO and decide her compensation;
- Determine the CEO powers and responsibilities;
- Appoint a GM and decide her compensation;
- Determine the GM powers and responsibilities.

III Project Team

The Project Team is the organisation consisting of full and part time professionals, designs, develops and hosts the game, and overall provides the means for hosting the gameworld.

Project Team is lead by the CEO, who appoints other people and decides their compensation. CEO is responsible for conducting the operations in an effective and efficient manner.

IV Admin Team

The Admin Team is the link between Project Team and the gameworld. Admin Team conducts the operations that ensure the functioning gameworld, they are "gods" of the world, and decide how the events in the world are solved.

Admin Team is lead by GM, who appoints the other admins and decides their compensation. GM is the supreme judge of the state of the gameworld and ingame disputes.

For brevity, Admin Team is abbreviated by "GM" from now on.

V Gameworld

The gameworld is the virtual existence of land, things and ideas in the game.

VI Kingdom

The gameworld is in a geographical sense divided to Powers, of which Crypto Kingdom is one, and possesses an area bounded by other Powers. Mostly all gameplay happens inside Crypto Kingdom. GM plays the other Powers.

"Crypto Kingdom" or "CK" may refer to either the whole construction of this game, or the part of the gameworld claimed or possessed by the King, or to the ingame item CK - Crypto Kingdom, which is the vote and dividend bearing stock of the whole construction.

VII King

King is the highest level and position in CK. Normally there is only one King at a time. The King administers the whole kingdom and has the ingame account #1: Crown, in addition to likely many others.



VIII Senate

The Senate is a collegium of prominent






X Levels

There are several levels a house may attain. The levels may be gained in different ways. The right to Titles is separate from levels, so it is possible to have a higher level than any of the titles, but also other way round. It is also possible to be demoted in level, which usually happens with reorganisations.

20 King
19 Archduke
18 Grand Duke
17 Duke
16 Prince
15 Marquess
14 Earl
13 Viscount
12 Baron
11 Baronet
10 Knight
9 Grand Wizard
8 Doctor
7 Wizard
6 Master
5 Expert
4 Novice
3 Beginner
2 Stranger
1 Visitor

The levels from 1...7 are system-administered and level-up will happen based on playing.
Levels 8...9 are commoner bonus levels that must be applied, and a ratified by Senate.
Levels 10...13 are minor nobles, and are appointed by peers on their own right.
Levels 14...19 are appointed by the King, but can also be claimed by owning enough CK for enough time.
Level 20 may only be gained by becoming the King and holding the position enough for GM to recognise it.

Level-up in commoner levels is free of charge.

The exact rules governing the level-ups in noble levels, and the mandatory stamp tax charged by the game, are as follows:

20 King. The successor of a deceased king is in the same house. King may also abdicate in favor of another house. However, kingdom can be challenged by military might or deception, in which case GM events ultimately rule who is the King. Only GM also grants the King level, which stays with the ex-kings (their houses become permanently Royal). Tax 50 mil.

19 Archduke. The King may only create Archdukes after his 10 years in power. Alternatively, 300,000,000 CK-days are needed for self-promotion. Also, a new recognised king is promoted Archduke first and gains King level only after GM-imposed trial period. The number of Archducal houses may not exceed the number of extant Royal houses. If abdicating in favor of an Archduke, no new Archduke may be created in connection. Tax 50 mil.

18 Grand Duke. The King may create Grand Dukes only from Dukes that have been on the level for 10 years, and so that the number of extant Grand Ducal houses is maximum 1/4 that of the total number of Ducal and Grand Ducal (L17-L18) combined. Alternatively, 100,000,000 CK-days are needed for self-promotion. Tax 25 mil.

17 Duke. The King may create Dukes so that the number of Ducal houses (L17) is maximum 1/4 of the number of extant counties. Alternatively, 30,000,000 CK-days are needed for self-promotion. Tax 10 mil.

16 Prince. The King may create Princes so that the number of Princely houses (L16) is maximum 1/2 of the number of extant counties. Alternatively, 10,000,000 CK-days are needed for self-promotion. Tax 10 mil.

15 Marquess. The King may create Marquesses so that the number is at max the same as the number of extant counties. Alternatively, 3,000,000 CK-days are needed for self-promotion. Tax 5 mil.

14 Earl. The King may create Earls so that the number is maximum 2x the number of extant counties. The holder of a county must be created Earl. Alternatively, 1,000,000 CK-days are needed for self-promotion. Tax 3 mil.

13 Viscount. Landed Peers may appoint Viscounts, but only so that one Viscomital house is extant per county (it is possible to appoint a new one only after the previous one has been created peer by the King. Tax 2 mil.

12 Baron. All Landed Peers may grant Baronages up to the limit determined by their county stats, plus King at will. Alternatively, 300,000 CK-days are needed for self-promotion. All Baronets are also promoted to Barons after maximum 10 years. Tax 2 mil.

11 Baronet. Becoming a Baronet requires purchasing a BT-item directly from the King, and becomes subject of the King. No system tax.

10 Knight. All peers may create Knights at will, and these become subjects of the peer. Tax 1 mil.

The tax is subject to changes in GSL (General Salary Level, closely tied to XMR price in fiat currency). In leap-promotions, all stamp taxes accumulate.



XII Judges

Senate appoints judges.




XIII Documents, Rules, Laws, Proclamations, Bylaws, Decisions, Orders, Rulings

Documents govern the systemic function of the game. Only the General Meeting may amend Documents.

Rules are practical mechanisms and boundaries along which the gameworld operates. Rules are decided by the GM, but they may not be in disagreement with Documents. There is no appeal however, except by calling a General Meeting.

Laws are passed in the Senate. Laws may only affect the happening inside the gameworld. The difference between a Rule and a Law is that a Rule may stipulate that an unpinned farm yields 1,000*VEG. A Law may say that 10% of that must be given to the Town for the upkeep of roads. Rules are enforced by the system, but laws are not. So the VEG will be created if the rule says so, but the law must be obeyed voluntarily. If not, there are means of punishment though.

Proclamations are the King's tool of reigning. They are similar to laws, but often appeal to the voluntary spirit of the audience.

Bylaws apply to members of a certain group, so that membership in the group is voluntary, for example a guild may have bylaws.

Decisions refer to agreement in a body.

Orders (in this context, there are also Chivalric Orders with the same name) may be given by anyone who has authority. An order applies to a specific case, and is therefore supplementary to a law or proclamation, which deals with general principles. A lawful order requires the recipient to be a feudal subject of the giver. A successful order includes mechanism to punish the recipient for refusal to comply.

Rulings are decisions reached when there is a dispute. Depending on the situation, GM, Admins, Senate, King, Judges or Peers (alone, together, or in combination) may give rulings. The highest authority is GM, but she may refuse appeal, or institute a fee. Rulings, especially from higher authorities, form a case law.

XIV Dispute resolution

Disputes may be civil or criminal, and involve the system, or just the ingame entities.

Systemic criminal dispute (eg. character farming) is handled by the GM and may result in termination of account and damages reaching the value of it.

Systemic civil dispute (usually a claim that the world has acted against its own rules resulting in a loss to the player, or corruption of data) will also be handled by the GM.

Ingame criminal dispute (breaking the law) is handled by the judges.

Ingame civil dispute may be handled by anyone whom the parties agree to arbitrate. If not, by judges.



XX Senate

Senate inherits the former Town non-financial assets, in account #4: Town, and also the public responsibilities of the Town.

All peers may sit in Senate.



XXI Self-existing entities

Self-existing entity refers to an ingame non-systemic account that is not permanently owned by anybody (or this ownership is concealed), although the controller has wide powers of accumulating or disposing of assets, checked by the community only. Such accounts are:
#1 Crown (by the King)
#4 Town (by the Senate)
#49 Church (by whoever is in power)
Accounts that refer to a geographic entity, such as Counties (by whoever possesses them)

XXII Systemic accounts

The Project Team and GM operate the systemic accounts that host the game funds. The game does not have external funds, all its assets are in the game.

XXIII Player accounts

Player accounts may be in the form of House (a clan, in the beginning consisting of a single character), or a Foreign-Owned-Corporation (FOC), which enables presence in the game without a character and responsibilities to play.


XXIV CKIP marketing incentive plan

XXV CKFUT playing incentive plan

Under CKFUT, new players in the game receive delayed CK items, "CK futures". The futures are converted to free-trading CK upon expiration, at no cost. The conversion requires that the player has played the game actively during the maturity period (this will be defined with precision), and that she has enough CK on her own to match the new CK to be converted. In practice, since the maturities differ, it is enough that the player purchases some CK to redeem the first batch, and then holds.

[Scrotum]

CK Founding Document A.D. 1647 - Rules V.2.0 (working copy)

. Preamble

(edit the earlier "TOS" document)

I General Meeting

The General Meeting of CK holders is called, if:
- the Board so wishes, or
- the owners of 10% of the outstanding CK so demand from the Board for any reason. If the Board does not promptly respond with practical arrangements, it may be held nevertheless.

The General Meeting with its agenda must be announced 7 realdays in advance.

The General Meeting may:
- Change the Documents with a simple majority;
- Change the Founding Document with a 75% majority;
- Decide the number of Board members, which has to be 3-9;
- Appoint the Board members, so that each faction of votes gets to appoint members in proportion;
- Determine the compensation of Board members.

II Board

The Board determines the strategy and oversees the progress of CK project.

The Board may:
- Appoint a Chairman from among the members;
- Appoint a CEO and decide her compensation;
- Determine the CEO powers and responsibilities;
- Appoint a GM and decide her compensation;
- Determine the GM powers and responsibilities.

Someone please call for a General Meeting, get some people in positions, and start making CK great!

[generalizethis]

CK Founding Document A.D. 1647 - Rules V.2.0 (working copy)

. Preamble

(edit the earlier "TOS" document)

I General Meeting

The General Meeting of CK holders is called, if:
- the Board so wishes, or
- the owners of 10% of the outstanding CK so demand from the Board for any reason. If the Board does not promptly respond with practical arrangements, it may be held nevertheless.

The General Meeting with its agenda must be announced 7 realdays in advance.

The General Meeting may:
- Change the Documents with a simple majority;
- Change the Founding Document with a 75% majority;
- Decide the number of Board members, which has to be 3-9;
- Appoint the Board members, so that each faction of votes gets to appoint members in proportion;
- Determine the compensation of Board members.

II Board

The Board determines the strategy and oversees the progress of CK project.

The Board may:
- Appoint a Chairman from among the members;
- Appoint a CEO and decide her compensation;
- Determine the CEO powers and responsibilities;
- Appoint a GM and decide her compensation;
- Determine the GM powers and responsibilities.

Someone please call for a General Meeting, get some people in positions, and start making CK great!

Without an exchange asset or deposhares, these would be unpaid positions, so doubtful there'd be any volunteers. Right now the admin/gm are working for free, but I doubt anyone would want to take on the ceo responsibility for free--though it would be welcome.

[bv68bot]

CK Founding Document A.D. 1647 - Rules V.2.0 (working copy)

. Preamble

(edit the earlier "TOS" document)

I General Meeting

The General Meeting of CK holders is called, if:
- the Board so wishes, or
- the owners of 10% of the outstanding CK so demand from the Board for any reason. If the Board does not promptly respond with practical arrangements, it may be held nevertheless.

The General Meeting with its agenda must be announced 7 realdays in advance.

The General Meeting may:
- Change the Documents with a simple majority;
- Change the Founding Document with a 75% majority;
- Decide the number of Board members, which has to be 3-9;
- Appoint the Board members, so that each faction of votes gets to appoint members in proportion;
- Determine the compensation of Board members.

II Board

The Board determines the strategy and oversees the progress of CK project.

The Board may:
- Appoint a Chairman from among the members;
- Appoint a CEO and decide her compensation;
- Determine the CEO powers and responsibilities;
- Appoint a GM and decide her compensation;
- Determine the GM powers and responsibilities.

Someone please call for a General Meeting, get some people in positions, and start making CK great!

Without an exchange asset or deposhares, these would be unpaid positions, so doubtful there'd be any volunteers. Right now the admin/gm are working for free, but I doubt anyone would want to take on the ceo responsibility for free--though it would be welcome.

How about convene a General Meeting just to appoint a Judge to rule on the rpietila debt issue? That's the current impediment that's stifling everything.

[generalizethis]

CK Founding Document A.D. 1647 - Rules V.2.0 (working copy)

. Preamble

(edit the earlier "TOS" document)

I General Meeting

The General Meeting of CK holders is called, if:
- the Board so wishes, or
- the owners of 10% of the outstanding CK so demand from the Board for any reason. If the Board does not promptly respond with practical arrangements, it may be held nevertheless.

The General Meeting with its agenda must be announced 7 realdays in advance.

The General Meeting may:
- Change the Documents with a simple majority;
- Change the Founding Document with a 75% majority;
- Decide the number of Board members, which has to be 3-9;
- Appoint the Board members, so that each faction of votes gets to appoint members in proportion;
- Determine the compensation of Board members.

II Board

The Board determines the strategy and oversees the progress of CK project.

The Board may:
- Appoint a Chairman from among the members;
- Appoint a CEO and decide her compensation;
- Determine the CEO powers and responsibilities;
- Appoint a GM and decide her compensation;
- Determine the GM powers and responsibilities.

Someone please call for a General Meeting, get some people in positions, and start making CK great!

Without an exchange asset or deposhares, these would be unpaid positions, so doubtful there'd be any volunteers. Right now the admin/gm are working for free, but I doubt anyone would want to take on the ceo responsibility for free--though it would be welcome.

How about convene a General Meeting just to appoint a Judge to rule on the rpietila debt issue? That's the current impediment that's stifling everything.

His accounts will be used to pay back his debt if M is valued enough to do so, and he hasn't already done so of his own accord--that was decided a while back.

[rpietila]

Why bother about General Meeting ??

when the fact is that I never surrendered the absolute 51% majority in the game to anyone, yet people post here in bright daylight, only pausing to button their darknesshole with both thumbs, before tasting how sweet it is...

What is important by the book, is that since the rebellious ouster, nothing you do really matters, it's not my game.

There is no money, no value, even every single M3 I still had at the time of ouster, is effortlessly stolen.

Are you stupid or what to even talk to the thief, crichton?? How exactly you will ever get anything out in a game of his?? Are you kidding me that in my time, you only want cash out, and suddenly when he steals everything the lightpeople had brought (incl my EUR 7,000,000 total losses), you still believe you have someone to scam here??

As in, hard to believe anyone is after any entertainment value in the future, so yeah you got this one but I have something in mind, as I just said.

[smooth]

There is no money, no value, even every single M3

Pay up for the B1s you owe (and maybe E1s, although I never paid much attention to such things) and I'm sure your M3s will be returned as well.

You can't commit blatant fraud against the game and the players in the form of abusing your admin access to create unbacked B1s and then refusing to pay for them,  and expect everyone to respect your "absolute 51%".

As long as you are a deadbeat, you will get no respect at all, 51% or otherwise.

[generalizethis]

Why bother about General Meeting ??

when the fact is that I never surrendered the absolute 51% majority in the game to anyone, yet people post here in bright daylight, only pausing to button their darknesshole with both thumbs, before tasting how sweet it is...

What is important by the book, is that since the rebellious ouster, nothing you do really matters, it's not my game.

There is no money, no value, even every single M3 I still had at the time of ouster, is effortlessly stolen.

Are you stupid or what to even talk to the thief, crichton?? How exactly you will ever get anything out in a game of his?? Are you kidding me that in my time, you only want cash out, and suddenly when he steals everything the lightpeople had brought (incl my EUR 7,000,000 total losses), you still believe you have someone to scam here??

As in, hard to believe anyone is after any entertainment value in the future, so yeah you got this one but I have something in mind, as I just said.

Because of your ineptitude (I thought it was actually an intended event until you started complaining a couple of days after the fiasco), you gave Crown control of more than 10% of the m supply, so I called a board meeting 7 days in advance (which you never objected to) and then we voted that SirJacket, Moneromooo and myself would be the board and Mooo would be the temporary GM. I did this by the rules you created and you never even complained until months later. You've been given every chance to negotiate with your creditors and have not, so why should anyone care what you think--pay it or stfu--my guess is you can't/won't do either.

[bv68bot]

How about convene a General Meeting just to appoint a Judge to rule on the rpietila debt issue? That's the current impediment that's stifling everything.

His accounts will be used to pay back his debt if M is valued enough to do so, and he hasn't already done so of his own accord--that was decided a while back.

I didn't realise a meeting had already decided this, good to hear.  rpietila will no doubt scream blue murder when it finally happens, but as he's been given plenty of warning about what would happen if he didn't pay his debts, and he still hasn't made any offers to his creditors, then what else can be done