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[acdc]

Any news from @loaf on dev work?

Unfortunately no news from the Slack at least that I'd be aware of, there was a preliminary test version though.
My GitHub project is up and openly avaible though only slowly progressing, so I'll holler out if/when something notable happens on my end.

Thanks Syksy, hopefully we all survive the crypto winter and CK can live again during the next bull market, the idea is still solid.

[Syksy]

Any news from @loaf on dev work?

Unfortunately no news from the Slack at least that I'd be aware of, there was a preliminary test version though.
My GitHub project is up and openly avaible though only slowly progressing, so I'll holler out if/when something notable happens on my end.

Thanks Syksy, hopefully we all survive the crypto winter and CK can live again during the next bull market, the idea is still solid.

Indeed 2018's been a harsh year overall, and CK and its derivatives have also been more or less under hibernation. I think it's quite natural given the circumstances. But here's hoping for a solid 2019, happy holidays to all!

Cheers. I haven't given up on my engine despite my GitHub commit's having been focused on my research work focused projects and other hobby projects. There's a game jam on Jan 25-27, which I might be able to use as a playground for having this as the back-end, will see

[KLONE]

Indeed 2018's been a harsh year overall, and CK and its derivatives have also been more or less under hibernation. I think it's quite natural given the circumstances. But here's hoping for a solid 2019, happy holidays to all!

Cheers. I haven't given up on my engine despite my GitHub commit's having been focused on my research work focused projects and other (gaming) hobby projects. There's a game jam on Jan 25-27, which I might be able to use as a playground for having this as the back-end, will see

Of ALL my worthless bags, CK is the one I would most like to see make a comeback, such a good idea, still is!

@Syksy, thanks for keeping the candle burning

[RoopatraOriginal]

Back for a dose of nostalgia.
Is something still going on?

[Syksy]

Hiya,


I think I'm the only one currently planning anything new to be implemented. I'm not sure where the others have gone, or if there's a big revelation any time soon. Perhaps, there was definitely a prototype under development by Loaf & the gang with a preliminary web interface up. If the development is still active, I've been dropped out of the loop though, so I wouldn't know.



As for me, I implemented a basic grid-based world in Java that was saved in a SQL database that could've worked as a back-end for a game inspired by CK. Why I say "inspired by CK" is that I'd like to make a game with some similarities, but it's definitely not going to be "CK v2" per se this project is publicly on GitHub, but I'm thinking of retiring it as a dead end.

Since I developed my prototype, I realized that it's basically a very basic tile-based engine for a block world that doesn't really add much worth on top of all the other engines out there. In fact, it was probably much worse than some back-ends that I could've adopted straight out-of-the-box.

Since then I've been revamping my ideas of development; instead of going for such back-end for the game (based on e.g. SQL database or local copy of game state), I've been playing around with the ideas of developing a blockchain that could support such a game. Naturally a blockchain-emergent implementation comes with the pros and cons of a blockchain's inherent properties. The game would be fully functional based on a blockchain, which would make it unique. Storing data / (data) transactions on blockchain of course imposes severe limitations on what game functionality could be implemented, so I'm approaching it in small steps. I've been sketching out a "white paper" of my ideas, though I don't want to put a date on it. It's on Overleaf as a LaTeX document if anybody's curious, but it's really crude though.

Doing something similar to CK is a massive undertaking, and I'm doing it in my spare time on top of my post-doc / family life. I'd greatly appreciate if there would be volunteering enthusiastic individuals out there willing to contribute to such an open source crypto-related initiative, as this would increase the chances of success drastically. So feel free to poke me over a private message and/or IRC (Syksy @ freenode), and I can also give you my personal email.

Naturally I'd love to see others activate, even if they don't want to contribute to my particular approach on this. I'm already grateful to certain individuals, who have been kind enough to share their insight into such a project. I can't make promises as this project cannot take main priority in my life, but it's definitely something that I think is very interesting and worth pursuing in my spare time.



Nice to see old familiar faces around feel free to chat me up on IRC, though I might respond with a delay. I also have a Discord channel up for my various projects. I am anyway pursuing my hobbies as a game dev (just implemented an "Oregon Trail in Space" in Global Game Jam '19 a week ago, was refreshing to get to implement a whole albeit small game).

[bv68bot]

Wow, nice to see some CK old timers again, nice

[CrazyLoaf]

 

The kingdom is dead. Long live the kingdom.

Unfortunately, nothing to report on the relaunch effort

The source code and database have been preserved.

If anyone wants to do anything with the kingdom, get in touch.

CK Slack is still available here:
https://tinyurl.com/ckslack

[Whtwabbit]

Thanks for the update

What has happened to the XMR still in the game?

[CrazyLoaf]

Thanks for the update

What has happened to the XMR still in the game?

I have no access to the XMR and was never provided access. The depository and XMR wallet were controlled by saddambitcoin who I think turned it over to iluvbitcoins.

The https://deposit.cryptokingdomgold.com/ site has been down since at least June 2018.

See more information around this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1905349.msg39544409#msg39544409

[GreenBits]

This may be a radical idea, but how about turning this into a MUD? The roleplaying aspect fits with the of the original platform; MUD codebases are pretty much free and we could add content to an existing engine rather that build from scratch.

Transactions would have to happen manually, but thats not so bad. And the hosting requirements should be pretty low, given the textual rather than graphical nature of the engine.

Thoughts?

[Syksy]

This may be a radical idea, but how about turning this into a MUD? The roleplaying aspect fits with the of the original platform; MUD codebases are pretty much free and we could add content to an existing engine rather that build from scratch.

Transactions would have to happen manually, but thats not so bad. And the hosting requirements should be pretty low, given the textual rather than graphical nature of the engine.

Thoughts?

It's a great idea in my opinion, and I actually started out testing and exploring MUD-like approaches. I used to play BatMUD and ZombieMUD back in 90s, so I am very familiar with the concept, and I know there are ready engines for MUDs.

However the interface with MUDs and a blockchain was something that became something of a roadblock in my preliminary research. MUDs are ideally real-time, while blockchain implementation has lag in respect to what the tokens may represent and what information is contained within blocks. Further, it's really tricky to couple a ready MUD engine coupled with forking a ready crypto protocol. I couldn't find a "perfect match", and doubt there is.

But I definitely have not forgotten about the MUD idea. I'd probably build my own MUD engine though, as they're relatively simple. However, there are a lot of practical design questions that challenge the traditional MUD concept. Then again, nothing ever works out-of-the-box in such novel combinations

Cheers,
Syksy

[bv68bot]

Good to see this thread still active, I'd love to see a reboot of this concept one day, even something super basic just to let people play again in some form, just to reassemble some of the former CK originals for further brainstorming! Such a great idea, well ahead of its time!

[proride]

Good to see this thread still active, I'd love to see a reboot of this concept one day, even something super basic just to let people play again in some form, just to reassemble some of the former CK originals for further brainstorming! Such a great idea, well ahead of its time!

still active..

[Febo]

Thanks for the update

What has happened to the XMR still in the game?

I have no access to the XMR and was never provided access. The depository and XMR wallet were controlled by saddambitcoin who I think turned it over to iluvbitcoins.

The https://deposit.cryptokingdomgold.com/ site has been down since at least June 2018.

See more information around this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1905349.msg39544409#msg39544409

So you still had not divide to player or better owners the XMR they invested. But someone still hold them?

[CrazyLoaf]

HIGH!



THE DRAGON

Has awakened from his slumber...

https://forum.levels.fi/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45&p=268#p268

Follow the link to read the words of

HIGH TVA Dragon, King of Crypto Kingdom, Professor of Economics, AOK-GM, etc(x5)

(AKA RISTO)

Join the

Kingdom of the Dragon

Somewhere in your posts on the new forum, please put this text:

LOAF SENT ME

Ideally, in this thread: https://forum.levels.fi/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22&p=1413#p1413

[vaporware asset wizard]

HIGH!



THE DRAGON

Has awakened from his slumber...

https://forum.levels.fi/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45&p=268#p268

Follow the link to read the words of

HIGH TVA Dragon, King of Crypto Kingdom, Professor of Economics, AOK-GM, etc(x5)

(AKA RISTO)

Join the

Kingdom of the Dragon

And tell em' LOAF sent ya!

Will old CK items and M have value in the new Game?

https://cryptokingdom.me/  is down, is there a new website?

[bv68bot]

THE DRAGON

Has awakened from his slumber...

I must admit I did not expect this (but am pleased), is this a new game or a continuation of the original CK? I hope it is the latter ...

[iluvbitcoins]

Apparently the balances are going to be transferred.
Which doesn't mean much to me as a person who sold his CKG and M to buy B1 and E1.

[CrazyLoaf]

I must admit I did not expect this (but am pleased), is this a new game or a continuation of the original CK? I hope it is the latter ...

Apparently the balances are going to be transferred.
Which doesn't mean much to me as a person who sold his CKG and M to buy B1 and E1.

This is Risto's new project, so I have nothing to do with its birth. I was invited to the forum out of the blue.

In regards to CK items/balances being moved over to the new game, I have suggested this on the new game forum in multiple areas. I have also pushed for a game design that integrates crypto fundamentals from the start. A summary of my suggestions (many of which I expressed on here before) follows.

First, even if a new "land" is created in this new game, I think CK could function as a "safe city" of sorts.

Buildings/land could be replicated via proxy tokens (per Syksy's earlier suggestions).

Gold (CKG) could become a rare item. I am not sure if it could still be "gold" as I am not sure what is planned for the game, but maybe it could be another rare material.

"M" could possibly represent a sort of "city ownership" (like the old CK asset did).

Other items could be proxied on a case-by-case basis or possibly put in a "catch all" category like "relic points" or "artifact points."    

I have no idea on B1 and E1 (or M2 or the litany of other items/assets that existed). I tried to access the "Google Doc" that I think Smooth created to see what the claim amounts were, but it is now blocked.

I think the best course of action for people who want to make their thoughts and opinions known is to create an account on the new game forum:

https://forum.levels.fi/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45&p=268#p268

There are other thread areas that are available to those with a registered account. For example, some activity with coin bids has already occurred.

As there is supposed to eventually be a referral system for the game, I would really appreciate if anyone who goes and makes an account as a result of my messages puts this somewhere in their posts or, ideally, in this thread: https://forum.levels.fi/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22&p=1413#p1413

LOAF SENT ME

If you already made an account as a result of me, please make a post on the new forum with this text somewhere so that I can possibly receive credit

[smooth]

I have no idea on B1 and E1 (or M2 or the litany of other items/assets that existed). I tried to access the "Google Doc" that I think Smooth created to see what the claim amounts were, but it is now blocked.

I wasn't the one who created it and i don't recall who did.