Evolution is a hoax

[Astargath]

When are you jokers going to remember that this topic is about evolution. Even if there were nothing that showed evolution to be impossible, evolution would still be so extremely far from being proven, that it should be dropped simply because it is a big waste of time - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg47076294#msg47076294.

However, since it is touted as factual...

Evolution is a hoax.

That'a nice way to not admit being wrong about c&e and randomness. Shows you are intellectual dishonest.

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[BADecker]

When are you jokers going to remember that this topic is about evolution. Even if there were nothing that showed evolution to be impossible, evolution would still be so extremely far from being proven, that it should be dropped simply because it is a big waste of time - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg47076294#msg47076294.

However, since it is touted as factual...

Evolution is a hoax.

That'a nice way to not admit being wrong about c&e and randomness. Shows you are intellectual dishonest.

If you had any proof for evolution that could contradict what I said at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg47076294#msg47076294, wouldn't you use it? Wouldn't you get right in there and show how I am wrong, step by step?  But you can't. So all you do is beat around the bush. Since you don't have any evolution example that is factual evolution...

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

When are you jokers going to remember that this topic is about evolution. Even if there were nothing that showed evolution to be impossible, evolution would still be so extremely far from being proven, that it should be dropped simply because it is a big waste of time - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg47076294#msg47076294.

However, since it is touted as factual...

Evolution is a hoax.

That'a nice way to not admit being wrong about c&e and randomness. Shows you are intellectual dishonest.

If you had any proof for evolution that could contradict what I said at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg47076294#msg47076294, wouldn't you use it? Wouldn't you get right in there and show how I am wrong, step by step?  But you can't. So all you do is beat around the bush. Since you don't have any evolution example that is factual evolution...

Evolution is a hoax.

Well, I already debunked your ''random doesn't exist theory'' which is half of what you wrote there but you are unable to admit it so why should I continue further if you are never going to admit when you are wrong?

[joebrook]

To the pro evolution people on this forum, I would like to ask a question and that’s why hasn’t there been an remarkable form of evolution in the last 1000 years.

[af_newbie]

To the pro evolution people on this forum, I would like to ask a question and that’s why hasn’t there been an remarkable form of evolution in the last 1000 years.

The 1000 years window is very small on the evolutionary scale to see any significant morphological changes.  There were some evolutionary changes in humans in the last 2,000-10,000 years:

https://www.fastcompany.com/3064907/over-the-last-2000-years-humans-have-evolved-in-some-surprising-ways

http://mentalfloss.com/article/30795/5-signs-humans-are-still-evolving

Evolution is happening right now in all species, not just humans.

[BADecker]

To the pro evolution people on this forum, I would like to ask a question and that’s why hasn’t there been an remarkable form of evolution in the last 1000 years.

The 1000 years window is very small on the evolutionary scale to see any significant morphological changes.  There were some evolutionary changes in humans in the last 2,000-10,000 years:

https://www.fastcompany.com/3064907/over-the-last-2000-years-humans-have-evolved-in-some-surprising-ways

http://mentalfloss.com/article/30795/5-signs-humans-are-still-evolving

Evolution is happening right now in all species, not just humans.

This is precisely why evolution is such a good religion. 1000 years is nothing in evolution. So, nobody can test DNA over the last 10,000 years to see if there really was any evolution. Modern science has been around (sort of) for the last 300 years. Absolutely no way to prove for evolution is such a short time as that.

But that's what evolutionists like. It gives them a job, always looking for proof where and in ways they can never find it. It allows them to change theory (doctrine) to suit their whims. And most of all, it lets them feel good about themselves... when people praise them for their great thinking and hard work.

Well, the evolution religion is dying, right now. More and more people are recognizing it for the scam that it is. Many schools don't require more than a single credit for it any longer, and the only reason they require that, is so that they look good in the eyes of schools that require more.

Evolution is a complete hoax... except where it is a religion.

[Astargath]

To the pro evolution people on this forum, I would like to ask a question and that’s why hasn’t there been an remarkable form of evolution in the last 1000 years.

The 1000 years window is very small on the evolutionary scale to see any significant morphological changes.  There were some evolutionary changes in humans in the last 2,000-10,000 years:

https://www.fastcompany.com/3064907/over-the-last-2000-years-humans-have-evolved-in-some-surprising-ways

http://mentalfloss.com/article/30795/5-signs-humans-are-still-evolving

Evolution is happening right now in all species, not just humans.

This is precisely why evolution is such a good religion. 1000 years is nothing in evolution. So, nobody can test DNA over the last 10,000 years to see if there really was any evolution. Modern science has been around (sort of) for the last 300 years. Absolutely no way to prove for evolution is such a short time as that.

But that's what evolutionists like. It gives them a job, always looking for proof where and in ways they can never find it. It allows them to change theory (doctrine) to suit their whims. And most of all, it lets them feel good about themselves... when people praise them for their great thinking and hard work.

Well, the evolution religion is dying, right now. More and more people are recognizing it for the scam that it is. Many schools don't require more than a single credit for it any longer, and the only reason they require that, is so that they look good in the eyes of schools that require more.

Evolution is a complete hoax... except where it is a religion.

''Well, the evolution religion is dying, right now. More and more people are recognizing it for the scam that it is''

A 2009 poll by Pew Research Center found that "Nearly all scientists (97%) say humans and other living things have evolved over time

[BADecker]

To the pro evolution people on this forum, I would like to ask a question and that’s why hasn’t there been an remarkable form of evolution in the last 1000 years.

The 1000 years window is very small on the evolutionary scale to see any significant morphological changes.  There were some evolutionary changes in humans in the last 2,000-10,000 years:

https://www.fastcompany.com/3064907/over-the-last-2000-years-humans-have-evolved-in-some-surprising-ways

http://mentalfloss.com/article/30795/5-signs-humans-are-still-evolving

Evolution is happening right now in all species, not just humans.

This is precisely why evolution is such a good religion. 1000 years is nothing in evolution. So, nobody can test DNA over the last 10,000 years to see if there really was any evolution. Modern science has been around (sort of) for the last 300 years. Absolutely no way to prove for evolution is such a short time as that.

But that's what evolutionists like. It gives them a job, always looking for proof where and in ways they can never find it. It allows them to change theory (doctrine) to suit their whims. And most of all, it lets them feel good about themselves... when people praise them for their great thinking and hard work.

Well, the evolution religion is dying, right now. More and more people are recognizing it for the scam that it is. Many schools don't require more than a single credit for it any longer, and the only reason they require that, is so that they look good in the eyes of schools that require more.

Evolution is a complete hoax... except where it is a religion.

''Well, the evolution religion is dying, right now. More and more people are recognizing it for the scam that it is''

A 2009 poll by Pew Research Center found that "Nearly all scientists (97%) say humans and other living things have evolved over time

You still trust the polls? Or are you making them up? LOL. Does it matter? I mean, even if scientists are turning away from the formal religions, towards the evolution religion and other science religions, they are still people... religious beings.

The fact that evolution has never been proven -

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So, how can we tell that evolution is factual? We can't duplicate all the forces involved, because we don't know them. But if we knew them, we still wouldn't even know how to measure all of them. But if we could measure all of them in the present, what does that have to do with the DNA measurements we would need from countless creatures over the thousands of years that evolution supposedly took place in the past? But even if we were able to take these DNA measurements from the distant past, we would still have to find a chain of DNA changes over thousands of years, that would provide a truly beneficial change in some creature by turning it into a better creature. If we don't find this stuff, we don't know that evolution happened. But even if we know that evolving does happen, we would need this stuff to show that evolution was a substantial reason for some of the creatures that we have. And if we found out that it was, we would still have to determine that there wasn't some form of creation or something else... just to say that evolution was how it all happened.

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- simply shows how much scientists are like all people - religious - even though they don't realize it.


Evolution is a hoax.

[tvbcof]

Evolution is 'how it works' and is about as close to a 'fact' as it gets in science.

The arguments I've heard from the religionist side of things are laughably childish and absurd.  The tend to demonstrate a very shaky grasp of almost any of the fundamental elements of scientific pursuit.

That said, 'the theory of evolution' has been used by countless scumbags to justify some of the most disgusting actions that humans have ever undertaken.  Many of these have been performed by so-called 'atheists' who are more likely to agree with the basic tenets of the theory than your average bible-thumping Christian, but it is more common that people who want to justify their actions under their brand of spirituality find in the theory of evolution an excuse to 'do evil' and a way to justify it.  I don't consider such people to be 'atheists'.  Far from it.

I think that it is pissing into the wind for Christians to deny something such as the theory of evolution in hopes that by the theory being wrong, the shitty things people use it for will vanish.  At best they would find some other justification.  It might be worth noting that religious people who have a compulsion to do shitty things find their own justifications for it.  Some religious people have it easier than others...especially those who have a talmud and a zohar.

[BADecker]

Adaptation, like-begets-like, and simple change, fit nature far better than does evolution.

DuckDuckGo search on "evolution is impossible" to see why.

Cause and effect in everything, acting with exact precision, shows that everything is programmed.

The thing that is necessary for proof of evolution:

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So, how can we tell that evolution is factual? We can't duplicate all the forces involved, because we don't know them. But if we knew them, we still wouldn't even know how to measure all of them. But if we could measure all of them in the present, what does that have to do with the DNA measurements we would need from countless creatures over the thousands of years that evolution supposedly took place in the past? But even if we were able to take these DNA measurements from the distant past, we would still have to find a chain of DNA changes over thousands of years, that would provide a truly beneficial change in some creature by turning it into a better creature. If we don't find this stuff, we don't know that evolution happened. But even if we know that evolving does happen, we would need this stuff to show that evolution was a substantial reason for some of the creatures that we have. And if we found out that it was, we would still have to determine that there wasn't some form of creation or something else... just to say that evolution was how it all happened.

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Since evolution has not been factually proven to exist, and since there is a lot that has shown that evolution is impossible, proves that...

Evolution is a hoax.

[BADecker]

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[coins4commies]

To the pro evolution people on this forum, I would like to ask a question and that’s why hasn’t there been an remarkable form of evolution in the last 1000 years.

There have.  Antibiotic resistance is a form of evolution by natural selection.  New "superbugs" are forming at an alarming rate due to the increase in use of antibiotics.  Our old antibiotics don't work against the evolved bacteria.  

[grbox2002]

To the pro evolution people on this forum, I would like to ask a question and that’s why hasn’t there been an remarkable form of evolution in the last 1000 years.

There have.  Antibiotic resistance is a form of evolution by natural selection.  New "superbugs" are forming at an alarming rate due to the increase in use of antibiotics.  Our old antibiotics don't work against the evolved bacteria.  

In before "micro vs macro" evolution comment gets made. It is amazing you see the same arguments on both sides come up on this issue on every forum.
bitcointalk, yahoo groups, news:talk.origins, etc etc. I wish these arguments would evolve... 

[exemplaar]

"Natural selection" is not evolution, but merely adaptation. And it still remain bacteria, no formations of a monkey man, lol.

[Astargath]

"Natural selection" is not evolution, but merely adaptation. And it still remain bacteria, no formations of a monkey man, lol.

Adapting to something is one thing, however if that adaption is passed through generations, then it is evolution, pretty simple to understand.

[sirazimuth]

I think that the story that we are descended from monkeys is a lie that was invented by people who want to hide the truth from us. People can only come from people.

Yeah? And what story would that be?
Evolution doesn’t say we “descended from monkeys”...
The T of E says monkeys and humans (along with all other organisms) evolved from a common ancestor.
Get educated.

[BADecker]

I think that the story that we are descended from monkeys is a lie that was invented by people who want to hide the truth from us. People can only come from people.

Yeah? And what story would that be?
Evolution doesn’t say we “descended from monkeys”...
The T of E says monkeys and humans (along with all other organisms) evolved from a common ancestor.
Get educated.

Science fiction writers basically use the evolution science fiction because it sounds neat. People seem to like the idea. But there isn't any proof for evolution theory evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

[gegewojinnian18]

Yes, this is a scam of human beings. The current system is not suitable for everyone to become a smart person, otherwise the world will not be able to distribute wealth. Human beings are really terrible animals. How could it be that monkeys evolved? I never believed Darwin. Evolution theory.

[BADecker]

Yes, this is a scam of human beings. The current system is not suitable for everyone to become a smart person, otherwise the world will not be able to distribute wealth. Human beings are really terrible animals. How could it be that monkeys evolved? I never believed Darwin. Evolution theory.

Right! If you haven't seen these points, yet, look here

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So, how can we tell that evolution is factual? We can't duplicate all the forces involved, because we don't know them. But if we knew them, we still wouldn't even know how to measure all of them. But if we could measure all of them in the present, what does that have to do with the DNA measurements we would need from countless creatures over the thousands of years that evolution supposedly took place in the past? But even if we were able to take these DNA measurements from the distant past, we would still have to find a chain of DNA changes over thousands of years, that would provide a truly beneficial change in some creature by turning it into a better creature. If we don't find this stuff, we don't know that evolution happened. But even if we know that evolving does happen, we would need this stuff to show that evolution was a substantial reason for some of the creatures that we have. And if we found out that it was, we would still have to determine that there wasn't some form of creation or something else... just to say that evolution was how it all happened.

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[BADecker]

Again we see that mitochondrial DNA shows that people came from one man/woman combination 100,000 to 200,000 years ago. Animals show the same.


Did a mysterious extinction event precede Adam and Eve?

In one of the most provocative and misunderstood studies of the year, scientists in the U.S. and Switzerland have made an astonishing discovery: All humans alive today are the offspring of a common father and mother – an Adam and Eve – who walked the planet 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, which by evolutionary standards is like yesterday. Moreover, the same is true of nine out of every 10 animal species, meaning that nearly all of Earth’s creatures living today sprang into being recently from some seminal, Big Bang-like event.

Mark Stoeckle at Rockefeller University and David Thaler at the University of Basel reached this striking conclusion after analyzing the DNA “bar codes” of five million animals from 100,000 different species. The bar codes are snippets of DNA that reside outside the nuclei of living cells – so-called mitochondrial DNA, which mothers pass down from generation to generation.

With each reproduction, errors creep into the bar code, as they do when you repeatedly photocopy a document. By measuring the accumulated errors – the blurriness or “diversity” among the bar codes – scientists are able to infer the passage of time.

That’s how Stoeckle and Thaler concluded that ninety percent of all animal species alive today come from parents that all began giving birth at roughly the same time, less than a quarter-million years ago. “This conclusion is very surprising,” Thaler avers, “and I fought against it as hard as I could.”