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November 22, 2017, 08:32:39 AM
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Hi guys, I have 4 Sapphire rx 560 cards and but also a problem with one of them: when the Claymore SW starts it indicates that 1 of them has only
14 compute units
whereas the other 3 have
16 compute units

I was wondering if this is a configuration problem or a problem related to the card hardware...

Any help?

Thank you in advance

I want to turn back to this, i'm shocked!

Just want to warn you guys about this saphire card 11267-18-20G

It's very funny it's rx 560 release date is aug 2016, has less shaders , les tmu, and 1500 Mhz memory actually it's worse than 460








Now what do you think, should i just flash it over with normal saphire 560, i'm woried about ram speed too much since it's only 1500 now....

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for testing use original bios and you could copy the lower straps to 1500 and see how it performs, lock gpuspeed max at 1100 @ 0,9v and check for memory erros and hashrate
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November 22, 2017, 08:38:49 AM
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Interesting card indeed, looks like some mix between 560, 560D and 460

It´s an official Card, you can buy it here:
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/4GB-Sapphire-Radeon-RX-560-Pulse-4GD5-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Lite-Retail-_1211387.html

It´s a Baffin XL Chip, also used in RX 560D ... they call it RX 560 Lite Retail now.
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November 22, 2017, 09:49:52 AM
Last edit: November 22, 2017, 10:12:52 AM by Branko
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Interesting card indeed, looks like some mix between 560, 560D and 460

It´s an official Card, you can buy it here:
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/4GB-Sapphire-Radeon-RX-560-Pulse-4GD5-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Lite-Retail-_1211387.html

It´s a Baffin XL Chip, also used in RX 560D ... they call it RX 560 Lite Retail now.


Very misleading, they also sell RX580 nitro+ special edition, lite retail, but its actually BETTER than normal card,
having 2100MHz memory instead 2000MHz

https://www.protis.hr/products/details/graficka-kartica-amd-sapphire-radeon-rx-580-nitro-se-lite-8gb-gddr5/121490
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November 22, 2017, 10:05:46 AM
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Very misleading, they also sell RX580 nitro+ special edition, lite retail, but its actually BETTER than normal card,
having 2100MHz memory insetad 2000MHz

https://www.protis.hr/products/details/graficka-kartica-amd-sapphire-radeon-rx-580-nitro-se-lite-8gb-gddr5/121490
It looks like a very good card, but why they call it lite? Be carefull !  Roll Eyes
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November 22, 2017, 10:21:21 AM
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Very misleading, they also sell RX580 nitro+ special edition, lite retail, but its actually BETTER than normal card,
having 2100MHz memory insetad 2000MHz

https://www.protis.hr/products/details/graficka-kartica-amd-sapphire-radeon-rx-580-nitro-se-lite-8gb-gddr5/121490
It looks like a very good card, but why they call it lite? Be carefull !  Roll Eyes

"lite retails" is without games and adapters/cables, only cd and handbuch
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November 22, 2017, 10:47:14 AM
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for testing use original bios and you could copy the lower straps to 1500 and see how it performs, lock gpuspeed max at 1100 @ 0,9v and check for memory erros and hashrate

Actually i put stock saphire pulse 560  bios which i found on internet and so far works ok.

1300 clocks ,1750 mem  all shaders.

Works without errors even if i push it up to 1800.

Still haven't got tools to put heatsink down to check memory chips. So i'm little bit afraid to put 1500 timing to 1625 and up.

12 Mh, before was 9 -10. so atm i'm happy.  But if chips are 1750 will mode it more  Wink
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November 22, 2017, 08:52:46 PM
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Ok i check the memmory it's the micron D9TRZ --> MT51J256M32HF-60S:A so yeah it's a 1500 Mhz chips on this card.

I'm still happy with it it goes up to 1800 with changed timings.

So beware of Saphire 560 pulse  11267-18-20GDo not buy it!!!  Wink
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November 28, 2017, 06:29:19 PM
Last edit: November 28, 2017, 06:40:38 PM by grafviktor
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Ok i check the memmory it's the micron D9TRZ --> MT51J256M32HF-60S:A so yeah it's a 1500 Mhz chips on this card.

I'm still happy with it it goes up to 1800 with changed timings.

So beware of Saphire 560 pulse  11267-18-20GDo not buy it!!!  Wink

Actually i put stock saphire pulse 560  bios which i found on internet and so far works ok.

1300 clocks ,1750 mem  all shaders.

Works without errors even if i push it up to 1800.

Hi everyone!
Unfortunately I read this topic too late and managed to get 2 such cards. I used this value - 777000000000000022AA1C0073626C41B0551016BA0D260B0060060004061420EA8940AA0300000 01914292EB22E3B16 for 1500 timing, but it gave me just +15h\s on monero(it was 290, it is now 305) which is awful, in my humble opinion. Could you please point me to exact BIOS version you used to overlock this card ? In stock BIOS the highest timing is 1500. Thank you in advance!
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November 28, 2017, 06:54:10 PM
Last edit: November 28, 2017, 07:34:20 PM by infPICO
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Ok i check the memmory it's the micron D9TRZ --> MT51J256M32HF-60S:A so yeah it's a 1500 Mhz chips on this card.

I'm still happy with it it goes up to 1800 with changed timings.

So beware of Saphire 560 pulse  11267-18-20G,  Do not buy it!!!  Wink

Just bought this card today lol !!! First i was happy about micron memory, then i realized max strap 1500, 14 compute units and shaders from rx460!!! What a tricky mess. This is realy some hybrid.

Anyway ETH is 12,1 MHS and XMR is 405 h/s.
using straps from 1425 and claymore:

-mclock 2060
-mvddc 1000

-cclock 1080
-cvddc 925

will test it further. But for monero it is quite high output.

btw: i dont get why this card needs 6pin connector?
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November 28, 2017, 07:35:33 PM
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Hmmmmn. Interesting and enlightening stuffs here.
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November 28, 2017, 07:44:36 PM
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Anyway ETH is 12,1 MHS and XMR is 405 h/s.
using straps from 1425 and claymore:

-mclock 2060
-mvddc 1000

-cclock 1080
-cvddc 925
I apologize for the noob question, but I just want to clarify for myself - Have you just copied the timing value from 1425 to 1500? Also, is that possible to put the clock settings right into firmware ? The thing is I don't use claymore... Thank you.
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November 28, 2017, 10:25:41 PM
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Anyway ETH is 12,1 MHS and XMR is 405 h/s.
using straps from 1425 and claymore:

-mclock 2060
-mvddc 1000

-cclock 1080
-cvddc 925
I apologize for the noob question, but I just want to clarify for myself - Have you just copied the timing value from 1425 to 1500? Also, is that possible to put the clock settings right into firmware ? The thing is I don't use claymore... Thank you.
Yes, just copy value. And rise max memory clock to be able to go above 2000.
Well maybe you should start using Claymore, because i am getting 408 hs in claymore and 345 hs in xmr-stk-amd with same settings. Otherwise you can tune clocks in lot of softwares like msi afterburner, atitool etc...it is much easier to control your clocks from OS, because you need to tune card and adjust by small steps to find what you card can handle. You dont want to flash every card for each 10mhz change.

I find memory clock 2040 (not much for micron tbh) as stable with hashrate of 408 hs XMR and 12.1 mhs ETH...

To sumarize this card I think cooling is nice, temps are low and fan is not noicy. They do quite nice hashrate in CryptoNight (they do more then 50% of usual RX580 output for less then 50% price and at very low power consump.), but below avarage (for micron) in Ethash.
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November 30, 2017, 07:14:09 AM
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Yes, just copy value. And rise max memory clock to be able to go above 2000.
Well maybe you should start using Claymore, because i am getting 408 hs in claymore and 345 hs in xmr-stk-amd with same settings. Otherwise you can tune clocks in lot of softwares like msi afterburner, atitool etc...it is much easier to control your clocks from OS, because you need to tune card and adjust by small steps to find what you card can handle. You dont want to flash every card for each 10mhz change.

I find memory clock 2040 (not much for micron tbh) as stable with hashrate of 408 hs XMR and 12.1 mhs ETH...
Thanks for your help infPICO! The problem is my miners are built on linux and these flags -mvddc and -cvddc  are unavailable for linux platform.

By the way, if I set memory clock on my card above 2000 my machine just dying with black screen right after miner starting to work. It seems that I have different memory revision if I just copy timing value from 1425 to 1500 my hashrate becomes slower. Maximum I was able to get from this card is 400h\s in Windows, using Claymore with your flags and the timing from my previous post. Thanks!
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November 30, 2017, 12:54:48 PM
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This might be out of topic, but had to ask how about RX 480? Please elaborate if it would be better if I can use RX 480??

I am very new
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December 02, 2017, 10:25:43 AM
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Yes, just copy value. And rise max memory clock to be able to go above 2000.
Well maybe you should start using Claymore, because i am getting 408 hs in claymore and 345 hs in xmr-stk-amd with same settings. Otherwise you can tune clocks in lot of softwares like msi afterburner, atitool etc...it is much easier to control your clocks from OS, because you need to tune card and adjust by small steps to find what you card can handle. You dont want to flash every card for each 10mhz change.

I find memory clock 2040 (not much for micron tbh) as stable with hashrate of 408 hs XMR and 12.1 mhs ETH...
Thanks for your help infPICO! The problem is my miners are built on linux and these flags -mvddc and -cvddc  are unavailable for linux platform.

By the way, if I set memory clock on my card above 2000 my machine just dying with black screen right after miner starting to work. It seems that I have different memory revision if I just copy timing value from 1425 to 1500 my hashrate becomes slower. Maximum I was able to get from this card is 400h\s in Windows, using Claymore with your flags and the timing from my previous post. Thanks!

You are welcomed. Make sure you have changed in bios max memory freq from 2000 to 2200-2300. This will allow you to set it over 2000. I think 400 in monero is OK.
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December 05, 2017, 11:35:40 AM
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bought 6 of those sapphire RX 560D with micron memory
flashing them to normal RX560 with 1024 shaders was no problem!

currently running that rig with 12MH at ~50Watts each card.

1625straps to upper
950mV mem
tpd set to 52Watt
gpu 1200mhz
ram 2050mhz

edit: just recognized that this card pulls about 15 Watts more with 560D bios and 896 shaders, funny^^
win-win situation if you flash it to normal 560
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December 05, 2017, 01:43:17 PM
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i think 118€ for 12MH @50W isnt the worst deal, as long as those 1070/80 or 580s are that expensive.
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December 06, 2017, 01:15:52 AM
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FWIW, I bought 6x XFX Single Fan 560s last summer and they've paid themselves off - and continue to churn along. I only bought them because nothing cost effective was available, but they've been solid cards.
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December 11, 2017, 05:34:59 PM
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hi guys
After days of trying dissrent BIOS for my rx560 with hynx memory  Angry i finally got it to 13.8Mh/s
That is the best i can do, I have 2 of these and they bouth work the same.
My cards are  2x sapphire rx560 (hynix) dual mining ETH and LBC @ 13.8Mh/s and 15Mh/s.
core @ 1150 memory @ 2000mhz

if someone wants my bios you can download it for free
https://mega.nz/#!9WY2HCgJ!EHKGlKWGIgd1Z5aXY77B3UTI6QVHMgROXqnjLfmbHtU



And if anyone wants to donate Ether 0x2F775Ba0CA50DFEcC18379d5E41d26f49D11E195
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December 22, 2017, 11:39:01 AM
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whats the best you can do to a xfx 560 micron single fan?

About 14.8 if card doesn't have additional power connector, 15.5 if it has it.
Everything above 15.5 is just question of cooling memory...gigabyte has advantage that
metal part of cooler covers memory chips too...I don't know about any other card like that, but
if it exists, it should be able to reach 16MH/s too


Which settings should give me that speed on XFX 560 Single Fan with

Memory timings?Clocks?

Thanks.
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