[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented

[TryNinja]

i've no idea if ddos from another competitor but honestly nothing possible,because too much bitcoin mixing service now

At this point it's safe to say that there aren't any actual competitors for ChipMixer -- all other mixers have not yet proven to be fully trustworthy, which results in them having a hard time attracting more people to use their service. I am glad that ChipMixer is building itself up nicely, otherwise I would basically be forced to expose my funds to great risks when making use of a mixing service that is relatively new in the game, and that's obviously not something to look forward to.

Chipmixer's website is mostly based on java script (NOT SAFE?!) and unlike the company in my signature (they put 10 BTC in escrow) they don't have any guarantee. their  private keys could be hacked and leaked. So I think you got it completely wrong lad.

That's one of the more biased nonsense and bullshit I have ever seen in this forum up today.

So, you are saying that a mixer shouldn't use any Javascript because it's not secure? How about me reminder you that the mixer promoted by you was ALSO using javascript and Cloudfare (Man-in-the-middle service) until 3 days ago when a user found out?

whenever you see this: https://imgur.com/a/hpjWI within a mixer service, stay away as they are using javascript and it can potentially lead into a serious security breach. stay safe!

This is the level of incompetence I haven't seen in a while!

Let me get this straight: using JavaScript is somehow a serious security risk?

You bash other services based on this assumption, yet you use it on your own site:

<script src="https://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.10.2.min.js"></script>
<script src="js/bootstrap.min.js"></script>
<script src="js/custom.js"></script>

Or how about them plagiarizing a bunch of texts from the old BitMixer?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2165755.msg22014405#msg22014405

Or how about you bragging that your mixer has 10 BTC in escrow - (P.s: they want to mix tons of Bitcoins daily, including big users that mix over 20 BTC) - while ChipMixer paid more than 16 BTC just for their Signature Campaign, plus tons of Bitcoins just for the forum advertise space?

Or their post where they say that they will only escrow more funds when they gain more trust? (ROFL)

Meanwhile, the admin of your "favorite" mixer posting this kind of stuff:

we enjoy little trolls wearing our competitors signature, you may search in google, everybody copying everybody's FAQ. we wish you all the best.
[...]
It would be better if the other company/competitor will focus on providing better service and not running out of bitcoins.  just a thought.

Why so much hypocrisy? You are paid to advertise and not to go spread nonsense in the competition's thread looks like you weren't even accepted on the BitMixCoin campaign lol. I have seen you done the same with PrivCoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2164614.msg22207398#msg22207398

ROFL.


P.s: You actually don't need Javascript enabled while using ChipMixer. What a flawless argument...

[btcton]

... every experienced programmer/user knows that with java script the programmer/administrator could steal your cookies (from any website) and forcing users to perform actions that they did not intend (IP LEAKING?! and much more) very unsafe for a mixing service.

I'm assuming you actually mean... "very unsafe for USERS of a mixing service"

But my question would be, why would the programmer/administrator need to steal cookies from users? The users are voluntarily giving them BTC... Who cares about some IP addresses and cookies when you can just wait until you get given a bunch of BTC and walk away... why hack your own JS?

I see that the other site utilises PHP... a quick perusal of google using words like "php" and "vulnerability" cough up an awful lot of pages regarding security flaws in PHP... just like there are many ones about JS... At the end of the day, you are putting faith in any 3rd Party service that they have used appropriate methods to secure their systems, regardless of the systems in use. Using the "safest" system in the world isn't any good if you leave the door unlocked

Also, while it is a great show that they've put 10 BTC in escrow... aside from the word of the mixer admins and the escrowing party, is there any real way for them to actually prove that they are actually independent of each other and they're not best friends (or the same persons)?

#foodForThought

Why would EXCHANGE exit scam? why would DARKNET market exit scam? javascript is  simply a very smart way of stealing money, user is trying to mix his bitcoins and got infected by miner or malicious Trojan that expose his computer to hackers to steal a bigger amount. Who's using unsafe website with javascript is a totally idiot.

such a mess. just sent some coins, a quite large amount actually to your mixer, and 5 sec later the website was down

504 Gateway Time-out

fuck, what to do now??

If clearnet site is unstable, please check Tor one. If you cannot, wait till we get online. You have 48h. You can also send us an e-mail to extend your session.

they put 10 BTC in escrow

If you have 5 BTC daily volume then it is good amount of escrow.
If you have 100 BTC daily volume then it is false security.

I guess you will never know how much bitcoins they actually mix and what's their  daily volume. they put something in escrow, something u haven't done. disable javascript for your customers sake

For the record, this guy has no idea what he's talking about and is most likely just trolling. Instead of trying to argue with me, he ad hominemed his way through the discussion. I also talked to the manager of the campaign that he was allegedly participating in-- it turns out he was never even accepted into it. I have no idea why he is doing this, but I feel the need to mention this because all of his accusations against ChipMixer are complete spam and completely unfounded. He simply has no idea of what he is talking about and is probably desperate about bumping up his post count and joining a signature campaign, as he can't seem to get into one.

In other words, just ignore him.

[HCP]

He also tried to buy a Legendary account... and apparently got scammed:
http://archive.is/iMr3C
http://archive.is/Fqhew

He'll be lucky if he doesn't get tagged by the DT's that are against account sales... that would totally ruin his chances of getting into a sigcampaign

#karma

[blac]

please god someone tell me there is a way to get my session back after I destroyed it. or anything I can do....


I sent over 8 coins, mixed them. Pulled off the import to electrum info imported but completely forgot to broadcast the transaction. I copied over the session token to check my betting provs tomorrow... then deleted the session, is there anything I can do... omg

Is there anyway to see things I've recently copied in windows somewhere besides the most recent?

The bold part is unclear to me: did you import the private keys into Electrum? If so, you should still have them saved within your Electrum wallet.
Deleting the session is meant to remove all traces of your private keys from ChipMixer's server. That can't be recovered on their side, otherwise it wouldn't be very secure.

I'm no expert on Windows, but the more you use your current computer, the less likely it becomes to recover anything.

wtf, over 8 coins, and you destroyed before really shown on your electrum balance?
idk, what do you mean "broadcast the transaction" but you need to import your private keys, so then you didn't pressed the import button???

please god someone tell me there is a way to get my session back after I destroyed it. or anything I can do....


I sent over 8 coins, mixed them. Pulled off the import to electrum info imported but completely forgot to broadcast the transaction. I copied over the session token to check my betting provs tomorrow... then deleted the session, is there anything I can do... omg

Is there anyway to see things I've recently copied in windows somewhere besides the most recent?

The bold part is unclear to me: did you import the private keys into Electrum? If so, you should still have them saved within your Electrum wallet.
Deleting the session is meant to remove all traces of your private keys from ChipMixer's server. That can't be recovered on their side, otherwise it wouldn't be very secure.

I'm no expert on Windows, but the more you use your current computer, the less likely it becomes to recover anything.

please god someone tell me there is a way to get my session back after I destroyed it. or anything I can do....


I sent over 8 coins, mixed them. Pulled off the import to electrum info imported but completely forgot to broadcast the transaction. I copied over the session token to check my betting provs tomorrow... then deleted the session, is there anything I can do... omg

Is there anyway to see things I've recently copied in windows somewhere besides the most recent?

That doesn't make sense. What do you mean with "forgot to broadcast the transaction"? ChipMixer will provide you with funded private keys. You don't need to broadcast any transaction to get your mixed coins. As soon as you import the private keys in an Electrum wallet, you are good to go.

Sorry for explaining it wrong I was in a bit of a frantic state.

I mixed the coins, pulled the private keys to SWEEP them. I did not import them, I swept them. when you sweep it ask you to broadcast the transaction.

I forgot to click broadcast and just closed the window.

Went back and copied the session ID so that I could check betting provs ( I lost $600 on top of the 8 LOL ). I then destroyed the session.



Fast forward 30 minutes I check my electrum balance and realize it hasn't changed. I start to try to figure out and basically realize I am fucked. I start searching for programs that will pull your recent copy/paste data after trying several and trying word, it appears unless the program is installed/running this does not happen.

After being on my knees basically crying in front of my PC, I had a thought, I have Pushbullet installed on my phone/pc which has universal copy/paste. I went into my phone and then into my text app which has a clipboard and low and behold there are all of the private keys along with a few other things I had recently copied.

Basically push bullets $4.99/mo saved me 8BTC.

Hopefully this puts it into a bit of a better context as to what happened.

[LoyceV]

After being on my knees basically crying in front of my PC, I had a thought, I have Pushbullet installed on my phone/pc which has universal copy/paste. I went into my phone and then into my text app which has a clipboard and low and behold there are all of the private keys along with a few other things I had recently copied.

Lucky you!
On a side note, this app seems like a security risk to me. If I understand correctly, this app shares your clipboard? In this case it saved you, but the opposite could happen when you import the private keys into Electrum, and someone gets a hold of your phone the next day.

[Thirdspace]

while looking for a signature campaign, I stumbled on chipmixer campaign
too bad, the campaign is closed for new participant
however I continue reading this Ann and a few last pages, and want to ask
what makes this different than "depositing to exchanger and withdrawing back"
wouldn't it somewhat similar on the ins & outs & trust on the 3rd party?
the process in the middle, between ins & outs, definitely completely different

[LoyceV]

what makes this different than "depositing to exchanger and withdrawing back"

The difference: logfiles.
Exchanges keep track of all transactions for eternity, mixers delete all records.

[warningsigns]

Is the site down? I keep getting a "This site can't be reached" error.

If it's down for maintenance, when will you be up and running again? Please let me know. Trying to teach and convince my (skeptical) friend how mixers work.

[LoyceV]

@warningsigns: It's most likely another DDOS. It's very cheap to do, and very hard to prevent.
You can try the Tor-version of the site.

[warningsigns]

@warningsigns: It's most likely another DDOS. It's very cheap to do, and very hard to prevent.
You can try the Tor-version of the site.

This is really sad. All these sick characters and their perverted acts, wasting other people's time and opportunities. I know it's wrong to say this but there should be mandatory abortion laws for wives of those found to be responsible for these attacks. They should not be allowed to multiply and populate this planet with more of their kind. There. Got it off my chest.

[HCP]

Is the site down? I keep getting a "This site can't be reached" error.
If it's down for maintenance, when will you be up and running again? Please let me know. Trying to teach and convince my (skeptical) friend how mixers work.

@warningsigns: It's most likely another DDOS. It's very cheap to do, and very hard to prevent.
You can try the Tor-version of the site.

Can confirm... the TOR network .onion site is working perfectly fine in Tor-Browser... the "normal" .com clearnet site just times out

Seems like ChipMixer is a victim of it's own popularity and success... #hatersGonnaHate

[Thirdspace]

I clicked "start mixing" button just want to see the mixing process
but I haven't actually made deposit and tried it for real yet
first, if I want to deposit from lots ins with big tx size probably not a good idea
unless I want to spend good amount on fee to speed it up before 48 hrs time's up. correct?
second, mix & withdraw step, is it possible after splitting into several chips (say 4 chips)
then withdraw 1 chip and deposit (get 3 vouchers) for later use?
and can we also mix these vouchers with next deposit on another session?

I think it would be great if you could make a dummy session to let people learn it
sometime people learn faster by doing and example than reading instructions 
thanks...

[mocacinno]

--snip
first, if I want to deposit from lots ins with big tx size probably not a good idea
unless I want to spend good amount on fee to speed it up before 48 hrs time's up. correct?
--snip

Yes, but this has nothing to do with the way chipmixer works... It's just bitcoin's protocol. If your transaction size goes up, so does the recommanded fee.
As a matter of fact, you have to realise that if you controll a lot of very small unspent outputs, eventually you're going to have to pay a high fee to spend them. It does not matter if you have to pay the fee while funding a mixer's address, or if you have to pay this fee while paying for a pizza.

[LoyceV]

if I want to deposit from lots ins with big tx size probably not a good idea
unless I want to spend good amount on fee to speed it up before 48 hrs time's up. correct?

You could send all your inputs to one address of your own first. From there, you can send faster without high total fee. Fees aren't so high at the moment, 20 sat/byte should get you a decent confirmation time. If you want less than that for many small inputs, doing it on a Sunday is your best bet.
Recently I've seen transactions under 10 sat/byte get confirmed again too, in just a few hours.
If your deposit somehow takes more than 48 hours to confirm, you can always "reset" the timer and have 48 hours again. Just don't forget to check daily if you need this.

second, mix & withdraw step, is it possible after splitting into several chips (say 4 chips)
then withdraw 1 chip and deposit (get 3 vouchers) for later use?
and can we also mix these vouchers with next deposit on another session?

Yes, you can do this. Treat vouchers the same way as you treat private keys: make safe backups, don't show them to anyone.

I think it would be great if you could make a dummy session to let people learn it
sometime people learn faster by doing and example than reading instructions  
thanks...

You can try with a small amount, ChipMixer doesn't ask a high minimum amount to start mixing.

[OROBTC]

...

In recent days I tried out ChipMixer.  Because it works differently than other mixers I have used is was slightly (slightly!) confusing to me as a first time user, but every thing went just fine.  I split my BTC into two chips, withdrew one fairly quickly, and took a voucher on the other one.

Later I went back and cashed in the voucher.  All OK.

[ChipMixer]

It's most likely another DDOS. It's very cheap to do, and very hard to prevent.

There is a cheap way to prevent it - use CloudFlare (or something similar) like other mixers do.
The problem is that it puts another, non-ChipMixer-controlled machine between ChipMixer and user.
We cannot ensure your privacy this way, so we do not use their service.

[audaciousbeing]

It's most likely another DDOS. It's very cheap to do, and very hard to prevent.

There is a cheap way to prevent it - use CloudFlare (or something similar) like other mixers do.
The problem is that it puts another, non-ChipMixer-controlled machine between ChipMixer and user.
We cannot ensure your privacy this way, so we do not use their service.

Its all good for the explanation and it will be better if there is a notification to that effect on the site when its down for users. I think its because a lot of mixers have gotten into the community and they are trying to gain attention as well and for people who felt its time to discredit ChipMixer for reasons best known to them but little did they forget that the market is big enough for everyone to feature in.

I think you still need to look for something around the cloudfare option and still be able to ensure the privacy of users because when these attack becomes too much, the same client you trying to protect their privacy wouldn't mind using the competitors service despite the cloudfare thing in existence.

[BitHodler]

the same client you trying to protect their privacy wouldn't mind using the competitors service despite the cloudfare thing in existence.

I am a client as well, and I actually do mind it when a mixing service makes use of an external service such as cloudflare. Chances for abuse are extremely small, but people make use of a mixing service for a reason.

If data goes through another machine, there is no way that anyone, or at least ChipMixer itself can guarantee that everything related to your mixing session won't be saved on whatever server for ever.

Noob users likely won't care, but those who are very privacy minded are insanely paranoid when it comes to logs being stored for longer than the promised time frame ~ these are usually the higher volume users.

An external server basically means that you should consider your information compromised.

[richardsNY]

An external server basically means that you should consider your information compromised.

That's also the reason this forum doesn't make use of cloud flare, and that while a mixing service has far more priority to offer an ultra form of privacy (as far as possible), and thus skip third party services for better overall accessibility. I have used ChipMixer several times now, and only once did I experience an outage, which lasted like 5 minutes -- it's definitely annoying, but I am willing to take an occasional outage for granted to keep the highest possible form of anonymity.

[pnbamania]

Ok I am a noob and I don't know much of technical stuff but can't Chip-mixer make a encrypted connection between the client and it's servers so if a third party is involved the data is well encrypted? I don't know if it's even possible lol