ASICMiner USB group buy- orders closed, pay for extra!

[bigbeninlondon]

As soon as I get a refund he of course can do anything he wants.  But I would prefer that Arklan get the 5 to make up for having to refund me.  I know why you have an issue, because you want more at 0.175.  I do not have an issue, I just want Arklan to get something for his effort here.  If I have to cancel the request for refund and sell them to him privately, I can do that too.  Would that make it easier for you?   

Wow.  That sounds a bit spiteful.  Maybe send Arklan a PM next time and work it out privately?

What did you expect when you announced you didn't want your five?

Yes I should have considered that before I posted.  In hind sight I would have just done this privately.

I said I wanted Arklan to have them because he is having to deal with refunding me.  Not sure why that is a problem considering that I paid on time and still do not have them in my hands.  You think it is spiteful for me to want to allow Arklan, the one that actually has to deal with all of this, to have mine, the ones I have paid for?

 

By asking for a refund, you completely remove yourself from the equation.  You don't then get to dictate who does what, because you've washed your hands of it.  If you want to compensate Arklan for his time, do so directly and give him some money.  Let us (those continuing to participate and Arklan) figure out what to do with the miners you say you want no part of.

[arklan]

bluespace ant, ok. i'll refund ya.

dpos, appears you got it today.

the refunded and not paid for units will be redistrubted after i post this. of course the people with 3 will first get a 4th.

and stop squabbling. i have plenty as it is. alreayd had to buy two more hubs... (well, WILL have plenty, i should say.)

and photon939, i can't find an email or PM from you about sending payment for the extras. i'll leave them reserved for you while we sort that out.

[bigbeninlondon]

bluespace ant, ok. i'll refund ya.

dpos, appears you got it today.

the refunded and not paid for units will be redistrubted after i post this. of course the people with 3 will first get a 4th.

and stop squabbling. i have plenty as it is. alreayd had to buy two more hubs... (well, WILL have plenty, i should say.)

and photon939, i can't find an email or PM from you about sending payment for the extras. i'll leave them reserved for you while we sort that out.

This is why I do and will continue to do business with you Arklan.  Very upfront and consistent in your attempt to keep things fair.  Fucking A+.

[bigbeninlondon]

Payment sent for the 3 extra, thanks for organizing all of this again

Extra 4 units paid for

Payyyyyment sent 

Here's the posts; no mention of txid; Photon939 you'll have to dig it up.

[Henchman24]

You think it is spiteful for me to want to allow Arklan, the one that actually has to deal with all of this, to have mine, the ones I have paid for?

 

No, I think it is spiteful for you to announce this ridiculous stipulation only after someone expressed interest in buying them.  It's quite obviously a case of "I don't want them, but I don't want you to have them either."  If you wanted Arklan to have them from the start you never would have publicly posted a refund request.

Your manufactured generosity is a fig leaf.

[arklan]

bluespace ant, ok. i'll refund ya.

dpos, appears you got it today.

the refunded and not paid for units will be redistrubted after i post this. of course the people with 3 will first get a 4th.

and stop squabbling. i have plenty as it is. alreayd had to buy two more hubs... (well, WILL have plenty, i should say.)

and photon939, i can't find an email or PM from you about sending payment for the extras. i'll leave them reserved for you while we sort that out.

This is why I do and will continue to do business with you Arklan.  Very upfront and consistent in your attempt to keep things fair.  Fucking A+.

and THIS is why, now that i've realized there's only 1 extra (after giving everyone their 4) you get it.

[bigbeninlondon]

bluespace ant, ok. i'll refund ya.

dpos, appears you got it today.

the refunded and not paid for units will be redistrubted after i post this. of course the people with 3 will first get a 4th.

and stop squabbling. i have plenty as it is. alreayd had to buy two more hubs... (well, WILL have plenty, i should say.)

and photon939, i can't find an email or PM from you about sending payment for the extras. i'll leave them reserved for you while we sort that out.

This is why I do and will continue to do business with you Arklan.  Very upfront and consistent in your attempt to keep things fair.  Fucking A+.

and THIS is why, now that i've realized there's only 1 extra (after giving everyone their 4) you get it.

Shazaam!  Thanks!  Will post payment this evening.

[arklan]

bluespace ant, ok. i'll refund ya.

Thank you Arklan.  Sorry for any trouble it caused you.

no trouble at all!

oh, and guys, check the spreadsheet - you all have a 4th for those who didn't before. payment asap please.

though if theres an issue, don't freak out. until i hear from friedcat theres no sense stressing. i have enough to pay for the order anyway.

[Kuroth]

Too much $$$$$  Now.. 

[bigbeninlondon]

Too much $$$$$  Now.. 

How do you figure?

[LazyOtto]

Too much $$$$$  Now.. 

How do you figure?

It all depends on your assumptions, of course.

For example, in what you pasted is the assumption that mining with these started two weeks ago.

Try it again with a start date of September, two weeks from now, and see what you get.
I do think it more realistic that these will be in our hands in two weeks rather than two weeks in the past. 

Using this one: http://www.coinish.com/calc/#
comes out to a loss of about 5% per unit over 12 months of operation at this purchase price and delivery in two weeks.

[bigbeninlondon]

Well, I accept we both can't know the future and that this is a gamble.  We'll see how it plays out.

[LazyOtto]

Well, I accept we both can't know the future and that this is a gamble.  We'll see how it plays out.

Yep.

It all pretty much depends on that sustained difficulty rate of growth.


For those who must pay for electricity:

GPU miners 'should' pretty much all be out by now.

Looks to me that FPGA miners will start mining at a loss around this November.

[bigbeninlondon]

GPU miners 'should' pretty much all be out by now.

Yep; that's part of the reason I'm so keen to get more of these.  I LOVE mining, and I just had to shut down my video cards because this last difficulty change finally made them unprofitable.  I mined until the VERY end with those things.

Right now all I've got until the Avalon chips show up is my lowly 1 erupter from this first group buy. 

[Tranz]

Why is this GP so slow? Are we waiting on AM or what? Been 2 weeks and over 1/2 haven't even shipped the first batch?

 

[bigbeninlondon]

Why is this GP so slow? Are we waiting on AM or what? Been 2 weeks and over 1/2 haven't even shipped the first batch?

 

Yep

[mdude77]

bluespace ant, ok. i'll refund ya.

Thank you Arklan.  Sorry for any trouble it caused you.

no trouble at all!

oh, and guys, check the spreadsheet - you all have a 4th for those who didn't before. payment asap please.

though if theres an issue, don't freak out. until i hear from friedcat theres no sense stressing. i have enough to pay for the order anyway.

4th paid for:

eba655c27860028d77d2abd86a02144bee34e22fc03ce4d5088132555d59ef5d

Thanks

M

[bigbeninlondon]

------Begin Signed Message------
08/16/2013

Hey Arklan.  Here's payment for 2 more erupters @ .175btc each (.35 btc total):

TX id: f030bbb01e1de541f037226295f82c3a7b7fe0d77960f154db54c260ba897f7d

Thanks!

BigBenInLondon
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Address: 1DP2iACeyinh2fELLreYeovYaAsUNL4vNh
Signature:  H9/bPL25yui0FAuelCU4J13UNhxEt0f4Ce5N+K75M5hrDslFXworW27UkIhcIQ4HAk9BtBlviJirqz+8csBAiDs=

[LazyOtto]

------Begin Signed Message------
08/16/2013

Hey Arklan.  Here's payment for 2 more erupters @ .175btc each (.35 btc total):

TX id: f030bbb01e1de541f037226295f82c3a7b7fe0d77960f154db54c260ba897f7d

Thanks!

BigBenInLondon
------End Signed Message-------------

Address: 1DP2iACeyinh2fELLreYeovYaAsUNL4vNh
Signature:  H9/bPL25yui0FAuelCU4J13UNhxEt0f4Ce5N+K75M5hrDslFXworW27UkIhcIQ4HAk9BtBlviJirqz+8csBAiDs=

You're probably safe enough.

But, IMO, you are being insufficiently paranoid.

The more data points we have, the easier it is to crack your encryption.

IOWs, IMO, you should have sent this data as a pseudo-private email.

[DPoS]

Yep, got it today Arklan

Just wondering if FedEx is crimping your style. 4days can probably be beaten by USPS for less - check it out if possible