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December 26, 2013, 12:18:21 AM
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same for you my friend, please read through all points outlined here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381489.0

The fact that people try to "manipulate" a coin's price is no reason for excluding it or distorting its market cap statistics.

The two things have nothing to do with each other.

You're mixing a whole load of politics with the proper reporting of statistics.

I bought some NxT knowing the full background to that coin. I knew it was mostly premined. I knew that there were probably some big stakeholders. If it hadn't already been listed on Marketcap I would have taken a calculator and multiplied the coinbase by the current price on the dgex exchange in order to furnish myself with that particular piece of data.

What's the problem ? If you don't like the coin don't invest in it, but stop patronising other investors by trying to push for the censoring or "tainting" of coin statistics just to suit some political vendeta you've got against premined coins.

Some of us are grown up and can make up our own minds about it.
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December 26, 2013, 12:30:54 AM
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Mastercoin is not 100% premine, there is a 10% allocation on top of that what was created in August 2013 that vests at 50% of the remaining dev MSC amount per year.



 Right now that is being distributed manually however there is a mechanism for proof of stake voting that will automate this so that stakeholders can vote on how to allocate the amounts that vest.

http://wiki.mastercoin.org/index.php/Dev_MSC

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December 26, 2013, 03:56:36 AM
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BRIBED BRIBED BRIBED!! Gliss HAS BEEN BRIBED. He's not removing the coins even by popular requests.

Someone make a new website.


 
 
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December 26, 2013, 03:58:00 AM
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BRIBED BRIBED BRIBED!!  He's not removing the coins even by popular requests.

Someone make a new website.
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December 26, 2013, 04:20:30 AM
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Here's what I wonder about mastercoin,  why is it with their exchange is says "Test MSC".

Are they trading 'test coins'.   See:  http://mastercoin-explorer.com/order_books

So how is it that exchanges playing with 'play money' are listed in comparison with exchanges with 'real money'?

There should be no coins listed in this list unless they are traded in any of the major exchanges (i.e. btc-e, cryptsy,  vircurex, etc).

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December 26, 2013, 04:26:13 AM
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Is there any reason why any coin would not want to be listed on Cryptsy? It seems like a coin would be missing out on a lot of action by not being listed on Cryptsy. I know some coins like TAG coin have their own exchange but are also listed on Cryptsy. I highly doubt the vast majority of people would have a problem with the valuations of these coins if they were also being traded on Cryptsy. Getting listed on Cryptsy seems like an easy way to add legitimacy in the eyes of many skeptics...
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December 26, 2013, 06:07:33 AM
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BRIBED BRIBED BRIBED!! Gliss HAS BEEN BRIBED. He's not removing the coins even by popular requests.

Someone make a new website.

How effing old are you?
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December 26, 2013, 06:17:20 AM
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BRIBED BRIBED BRIBED!! Gliss HAS BEEN BRIBED. He's not removing the coins even by popular requests.

Someone make a new website.

There is no popular request. Only a few loud idiots.

And defending are 2 or 3 NXT holders who're part of the scam.


 
 
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December 26, 2013, 06:29:19 AM
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Some are saying Mastercoin (MSC) only has a "one exchange".

In fact Mastercoin has 5 non distributed exchanges, see: http://wiki.mastercoin.org/index.php/Trading_Mastercoins

+ 4 more distributed exchanges (currently doing Test MSC, soon to be MSC): http://wiki.mastercoin.org/index.php/Mastercoin_Balance

I'll grant the skeptics the volume on these exchanges is still relatively small, however Mastercoins have only been around a few months (since August) and only now attracting the attention of larger crypto exchanges.

The other non factual assertion being made by many is that "Mastercoins was pre-mined". This label would imply that some MSC were generated privately before being available to the public. In fact the "Exodus Period" from August 1st to August 31st was widely publicized and open for anyone to participate. During this period all MSC were generated (+ Dev MSC to be handed out over time) and 500+ people took part in supporting the funding of the features described in the Master Protocol whitepaper and spec. See: https://github.com/mastercoin-MSC/spec

I'd point folks to the "Clearing Up 10 Misconceptions about the Mastercoin Protocol" I posted earlier https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328118.0

Lastly, some are saying that the lack of mining some how creates an issue. However since the Master Protocol operates on top of the Bitcoin Protocol there isn't a need for hashing power / proof of work. The Master Protocol is implementing instead a Proof of Stake system for protocol updates and its distributed bounty system. See my white paper on "Decentralized Applications" many of which are getting developed on top of existing blockchains.

https://github.com/DavidJohnstonCEO/DecentralizedApplications

If you are new to this concept you may also want to read Gavin's recent post on "Provably Prune-able Outputs" that makes the storage of this meta data in the Bitcoin blockchain possible with out causing "bloat" or "pollution".

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=290

For general information about the Master Protocol / Mastercoins see:

Sub Reddit for Mastercoin: http://www.reddit.com/r/mastercoin/

Developers Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292628.760

Community Website: http://www.mastercoin.org/

Foundation Website: http://www.mastercoinfoundation.org/

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December 26, 2013, 06:34:25 AM
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Please add Lottocoin

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Going to be BIG once it hits cryptsy



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December 26, 2013, 06:44:42 AM
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BRIBED BRIBED BRIBED!! Gliss HAS BEEN BRIBED. He's not removing the coins even by popular requests.

Someone make a new website.

There is no popular request. Only a few loud idiots.

Since page 29 the following people have requested it's removal or called it a scam --

LaudaM
Thorgrim
KeyserSozeMC
huyha123
hybridsole
frank22
mfpowernl
cycloid
guybrushthreep
coininaction
FrictionlessCoin
dewdeded
hilariousandco
grv
wEEcoIn
jeroenn13
instacash
Nekomata
iso3789


 
 
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December 26, 2013, 06:45:52 AM
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BRIBED BRIBED BRIBED!! Gliss HAS BEEN BRIBED. He's not removing the coins even by popular requests.

Someone make a new website.

There is no popular request. Only a few loud idiots.

And defending are 2 or 3 NXT holders who're part of the scam.

You haven't made a singe lucid point in all of your rambling. What defense does anyone need to make? The premise of your argument is erroneous. Moot. Nonsense.

Cant answer genuine questions? Reply

Moot.
Nonsense.
Troll
etc...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189919.280


 
 
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December 26, 2013, 06:51:41 AM
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BRIBED BRIBED BRIBED!! Gliss HAS BEEN BRIBED. He's not removing the coins even by popular requests.

Someone make a new website.

How effing old are you?

BRIBED BRIBED BRIBED!! Gliss HAS BEEN BRIBED. He's not removing the coins even by popular requests.

Someone make a new website.

There is no popular request. Only a few loud idiots.

Since page 29 the following people have requested it's removal or called it a scam --

LaudaM
Thorgrim
KeyserSozeMC
huyha123
hybridsole
frank22
mfpowernl
cycloid
guybrushthreep
coininaction
FrictionlessCoin
dewdeded
hilariousandco
grv
wEEcoIn
jeroenn13
instacash
Nekomata
iso3789

You see I've a habit --

1) Call someone an idiot
2) Prove that he's an idiot in front of the world.

And I've not been defeated till date. Wanna come into that list?

e.g.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rr4eg/keiser_promoting_another_scamcoin_pump_and_dump/cdq23iy


 
 
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December 26, 2013, 06:57:46 AM
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Since page 29 the following people have requested it's removal or called it a scam --

LaudaM
Thorgrim
KeyserSozeMC
huyha123
hybridsole
frank22
mfpowernl
cycloid
guybrushthreep
coininaction
FrictionlessCoin
dewdeded
hilariousandco
grv
wEEcoIn
jeroenn13
instacash
Nekomata
iso3789

When have we started finding the truth via voting?
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December 26, 2013, 07:10:56 AM
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We have a successor.

http://www.cryptmarketcap.com

I'm off this thread.


 
 
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December 26, 2013, 07:40:11 AM
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Is there a reason that NXT is not on Cryptsy? Also I think some people are confused about Mastercoin not being on Cryptsy since the bidding on "the other Mastercoin" has gone up quite a lot since the financially backed Mastercoin has been featured on CoinMarketCap.com -- I'm not quite sure how that has happened if that is the case given these two Mastercoins have different tickers...

It's really unfortunate the marketplace has become so fragmented. I can't be bothered to sign up on multiple different sites just to invest in a single coin and thus resort to only investing in coins featured on Cryptsy (and I'm sure I'm not alone though the marketplace of choice may vary).
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December 26, 2013, 08:08:15 AM
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We have a successor.

http://www.cryptmarketcap.com

I'm off this thread.

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December 26, 2013, 09:26:58 AM
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We have a successor.

http://www.cryptmarketcap.com

I'm off this thread.

thx for this.

coinmarketcap.com developped to a place with double moral .
First they accepted to ban Ripples to a second page(requested by a lot of people), then they allowed NXT, and now Mastercoin to be listed on the same page.
So they lost integrety.

voting is a good idea.

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December 26, 2013, 10:16:24 AM
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coinmarketcap.com developped to a place with double moral .
First they accepted to ban Ripples to a second page(requested by a lot of people), then they allowed NXT, and now Mastercoin to be listed on the same page.
So they lost integrety.

They should ALL be on there.

There's no reason for censoring any of them. People on this forum and elsewhere are being pathetic in seeing "marketcap" as some kind of measure of merit when it isn't. Its just a statistic.

If I decide to create a new coin tomorrow with 100 Billion units and it trades for an appropriate price, it will have the biggest marketcap of all coins and that fact should be reflected in the marketcap statistics.

Coins should not have to "earn" their right to a marketcap position - its a statistic that includes the number of coins in circulation, thats all.
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December 26, 2013, 10:21:53 AM
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If coins don't need to earn their right to a marketcap position, there is nothing stopping this list from inflating indefinitely. I'm not saying any particular coin needs censoring but surely we don't need to see every single day bring additional coins to the list... There is 1 new coin or more coming out every day lately -- if CoinMarketCap.com starts listing them all (and the list at present is very much short of being comprehensive), I would expect many coins presently on the list to see a reduction in value as money spreads itself out over more coins. Maybe that would be a good thing -- redirect money into coins that actually have potential when the hundred clones take a serious beating as a result of people realizing just how many clones there actually are out there and what little it actually takes to create yet another.
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