[Unofficial] Coinpot.co - new microwallet

[grahamlyons]

CP will close down

Yes, that's exactly my purpose since there are evidences enough to conclude CP multiplier is a SCAM.

at least you have made your intentions clear now - that you are actively spreading lies and baseless scam accusations in an attempt to spoil coinpot for everyone else 

I know people referred by me who deposited near 1000 USD in BTC to convert to tokens and:

- Bad conversion (never fixed or adjusted with coinpot token value when the BTC quantity is high).
- Ridiculous SCAM results with multiplier (tested by me too specially this November 2020).
- People engaged with this SCAM multiplier game.
- FTC records against coinpot.co

And this is my objective: fight till the end to see SCAM sites like coinpot.co closed forever! No more deceived people!

are you going to start posting "screenshots" to prove all this is 100% true? 
i suggest you need to go out and get some fresh air and sunshine my friend, if a free faucet/website is upsetting you so much 

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[FinneysTrueVision]

Noone has anything to respond to that?
I did the same verifications and I also found he should have hit 210 on his 2nd roll.

Then I made the maths for my last 22 rolls, and I did find some discrepancies too on several occasions.
How can that be explained?
And what is the server seed hash for? I don't understand how it counts in the calculation of the roll.

The server seed hash is shown before the roll is made because the actual server seed has to be a secret until the roll is completed. When a roll is finished you can prove that they didn't change the server seed to get a favorable result by hashing it to see if it matches the hash they showed you before. It becomes irrelevant since they will still scam you, even if they don't change the server seed, by displaying the wrong result.

come on. there is zero "evidence"
all we have seen are some screenshots that people have concocted to try to show a scam
there is as much reason to believe these screenshots are fraudulent as there are to believe that coinpot is a scam

No amount of evidence will ever be good enough for you. You've made that very clear. No one has to take my word for it. Everybody is free to verify their own results and we have already heard from others who have come to the same conclusion I did after they tested the 'provably fair' formula.

[grahamlyons]

Noone has anything to respond to that?
I did the same verifications and I also found he should have hit 210 on his 2nd roll.

Then I made the maths for my last 22 rolls, and I did find some discrepancies too on several occasions.
How can that be explained?
And what is the server seed hash for? I don't understand how it counts in the calculation of the roll.

The server seed hash is shown before the roll is made because the actual server seed has to be a secret until the roll is completed. When a roll is finished you can prove that they didn't change the server seed to get a favorable result by hashing it to see if it matches the hash they showed you before. It becomes irrelevant since they will still scam you, even if they don't change the server seed, by displaying the wrong result.

come on. there is zero "evidence"
all we have seen are some screenshots that people have concocted to try to show a scam
there is as much reason to believe these screenshots are fraudulent as there are to believe that coinpot is a scam

No amount of evidence will ever be good enough for you. You've made that very clear. No one has to take my word for it. Everybody is free to verify their own results and we have already heard from others who have come to the same conclusion I did after they tested the 'provably fair' formula.

its just not "evidence" because screenshots like this are incredibly easy to fake. it simply does not prove anything.
and its fairly clear by recent comments above that some people have an ulterior motive to continuously try to discredit coinpot
there are thousands of honest people using coinpot successfully (including myself) - so is this "evidence" that coinpot is NOT a scam?
if i posted here a "screenshot" of a coinpot web page with a photo of the queens naked ass on it, is that evidence that they are promoting royal porn? 

"Everybody is free to verify their own results"
ive personally done this on a few dozen of my losing rolls and they are all mathematically sound - perhaps im just lucky eh?

[FinneysTrueVision]

its just not "evidence" because screenshots like this are incredibly easy to fake. it simply does not prove anything.
and its fairly clear by recent comments above that some people have an ulterior motive to continuously try to discredit coinpot
there are thousands of honest people using coinpot successfully (including myself) - so is this "evidence" that coinpot is NOT a scam?
if i posted here a "screenshot" of a coinpot web page with a photo of the queens naked ass on it, is that evidence that they are promoting royal porn? 

"Everybody is free to verify their own results"
ive personally done this on a few dozen of my losing rolls and they are all mathematically sound - perhaps im just lucky eh?

What exactly is my ulterior motive? I don't even use Coinpot anymore. I only decided to go back and verify my rolls after hearing so many accusations of how the multiplier is rigged and wanting to find out which side was more believable without just taking statements at face value.

You've made a lot of claims without ever backing them up and still you claim that I'm faking screenshots. Where is your proof? If I'm going to just take your word, I have to take everyone else's word also and the amount of people claiming they were scammed in the multiplier far outnumbers those who say everytihng is fair.

[grahamlyons]

its just not "evidence" because screenshots like this are incredibly easy to fake. it simply does not prove anything.
and its fairly clear by recent comments above that some people have an ulterior motive to continuously try to discredit coinpot
there are thousands of honest people using coinpot successfully (including myself) - so is this "evidence" that coinpot is NOT a scam?
if i posted here a "screenshot" of a coinpot web page with a photo of the queens naked ass on it, is that evidence that they are promoting royal porn?  

"Everybody is free to verify their own results"
ive personally done this on a few dozen of my losing rolls and they are all mathematically sound - perhaps im just lucky eh?

What exactly is my ulterior motive? I don't even use Coinpot anymore. I only decided to go back and verify my rolls after hearing so many accusations of how the multiplier is rigged and wanting to find out which side was more believable without just taking statements at face value.

You've made a lot of claims without ever backing them up and still you claim that I'm faking screenshots. Where is your proof? If I'm going to just take your word, I have to take everyone else's word also and the amount of people claiming they were scammed in the multiplier far outnumbers those who say everytihng is fair.

"Where is your proof?"
its impossible to produce "proof" and i have never claimed that i can - that is exactly my point!
people here (maybe not you) are claiming these screenshots as factual evidence of a scam - they are not evidence of anything - they are just images that might be real or faked

"What exactly is my ulterior motive?"
i don't know if you personally have an ulterior motive or not - i never said you did
but i was referring to another user (baby3d) that  has admitted his motives above - to get coinpot closed down forever
i dont want this to happen. i have many referrals on coinpot and earn from it. this is why i defend it against these accusations

[FinneysTrueVision]

hello, sorry for the english "google traslation", but, i would like to know if you can understand the fraud by the images i posted
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1POtEJbzpp7FDj7F-7O594LCO82O5BufW/view?usp=sharing

It should not be possible to generate the exact same client seed and server seed for 3 consecutive rolls. This proves to me that their random number generation is not truly fair. The server seed is actually the same in 4 straight rolls. This would not be such a big deal if they were using a nonce but since they aren't they have to change either the client seed, the server seed, or both for every roll to generate a different number.

[juzaza]

"Where is your proof?"
its impossible to produce "proof" and i have never claimed that i can - that is exactly my point!
people here (maybe not you) are claiming these screenshots as factual evidence of a scam - they are not evidence of anything - they are just images that might be real or faked

"What exactly is my ulterior motive?"
i don't know if you personally have an ulterior motive or not - i never said you did
but i was referring to another user (baby3d) that  has admitted his motives above - to get coinpot closed down forever
i dont want this to happen. i have many referrals on coinpot and earn from it. this is why i defend it against these accusations

I can not trust to coinpot's multiplier : how many time i am experiencing some bizarre lags when number of rolls in a day is stuck for a long moment to 29995 rolls despite you have clicked more than 5 times, just to try to reach 30000 rolls (it happens too withe the staked tokens)
I don't know if the server is really lagging or it is a way to cheat on us...
That's my experience, this doesn't make any proof in one way or the other

[dabbur]

its just not "evidence" because screenshots like this are incredibly easy to fake. it simply does not prove anything.
and its fairly clear by recent comments above that some people have an ulterior motive to continuously try to discredit coinpot
there are thousands of honest people using coinpot successfully (including myself) - so is this "evidence" that coinpot is NOT a scam?
if i posted here a "screenshot" of a coinpot web page with a photo of the queens naked ass on it, is that evidence that they are promoting royal porn?  

"Everybody is free to verify their own results"
ive personally done this on a few dozen of my losing rolls and they are all mathematically sound - perhaps im just lucky eh?

What exactly is my ulterior motive? I don't even use Coinpot anymore. I only decided to go back and verify my rolls after hearing so many accusations of how the multiplier is rigged and wanting to find out which side was more believable without just taking statements at face value.

You've made a lot of claims without ever backing them up and still you claim that I'm faking screenshots. Where is your proof? If I'm going to just take your word, I have to take everyone else's word also and the amount of people claiming they were scammed in the multiplier far outnumbers those who say everytihng is fair.

"Where is your proof?"
its impossible to produce "proof" and i have never claimed that i can - that is exactly my point!
people here (maybe not you) are claiming these screenshots as factual evidence of a scam - they are not evidence of anything - they are just images that might be real or faked

"What exactly is my ulterior motive?"
i don't know if you personally have an ulterior motive or not - i never said you did
but i was referring to another user (baby3d) that  has admitted his motives above - to get coinpot closed down forever
i dont want this to happen. i have many referrals on coinpot and earn from it. this is why i defend it against these accusations

How often do you roll the Multiplier every day?

[sunk818]

the only help to fight agains this "scambling" sites like coinpot.co I've found is to block permanently their ads (see some pages ago) in order to they do not earn nothing with those ads.

Very interested in automatic claim software for a PI (or other) device.

Seem strange that you want to benefit with an automatic claim software and not view ads. Why would you block ads if you're using automated software? You wouldn't view the ads anyway... That's just mean. Maybe find things to be grateful for in your life.

I can not trust to coinpot's multiplier

Funny you say this because i hit 30k rolls last night with 1 token stake. I started yesterday with just 100 tokens. Surprised myself I lasted so long. On win, leave alone and multiply by 2x. On loss, alternate and reset. No one complains when you benefit from the rolls, but everyone bitches like hell when they lose. House edge last night was negative so they are losing on the token rolls overall. That doesn't mean you specifically will benefit... its just a roll of the dice.

[sunk818]

For those that still refuse to believe that Coinpot is scamming with the multiplier, here is mathematical evidence of the fraud they are committing.

In screenshot #1 you can see that the highlighted numbers are a match and I received the tokens I won. However, in the screenshot below it, I ran the exact same "provably fair" formula to verify the roll but the numbers did not match. The number that I was supposed to roll was 210 which would have been a winning roll. Coinpot says I rolled 609, which was in the losing range, and did not award me the tokens I should have won.

Noone has anything to respond to that?
I did the same verifications and I also found he should have hit 210 on his 2nd roll.

Then I made the maths for my last 22 rolls, and I did find some discrepancies too on several occasions.
How can that be explained?
And what is the server seed hash for? I don't understand how it counts in the calculation of the roll.

What is the server seed hash for? How do you derive the server seed hash from the server seed they give you after the roll?

[FinneysTrueVision]

The three rolls have the same time stamp which is a little suspect.
Client side for first roll at top is same as the one at bottom.
Last roll has server seed hash is the same as roll 2, 3, 4 yet the client seed is different.

This tells me the screenshot has been manipulated.

Conclusion: fake image

Nobody has anything to gain from faking images. It is plain as day that there are irregularities with the game.

There is nothing suspect about having the same time stamp. The time is accurate to the nearest second, and with no pause rolls are faster than one second.

Roll 5 has the same server seed hash because it has the same server seed as rolls 2-4.

This user has multiple Chrome windows open in his taskbar so he is probably running the game simultaneously in more than one window. This seems to be what is causing the game to act buggy for some users where they are not getting true randomness in their results.

What is the server seed hash for? How do you derive the server seed hash from the server seed they give you after the roll?

You convert the server seed to sha256 to get the hash. It is used to make sure they didn't cheat by changing the server seed.

[juzaza]

Funny you say this because i hit 30k rolls last night with 1 token stake. I started yesterday with just 100 tokens. Surprised myself I lasted so long. On win, leave alone and multiply by 2x. On loss, alternate and reset. No one complains when you benefit from the rolls, but everyone bitches like hell when they lose. House edge last night was negative so they are losing on the token rolls overall. That doesn't mean you specifically will benefit... its just a roll of the dice.

 I was just making a point about the numbers or rolls and numbers of tokens that do not match (in my case).
but it's ok as you said, i'm a bitch.

[sunk818]

The three rolls have the same time stamp which is a little suspect.
Client side for first roll at top is same as the one at bottom.
Last roll has server seed hash is the same as roll 2, 3, 4 yet the client seed is different.

This tells me the screenshot has been manipulated.

Conclusion: fake image

Nobody has anything to gain from faking images. It is plain as day that there are irregularities with the game.

There is nothing suspect about having the same time stamp. The time is accurate to the nearest second, and with no pause rolls are faster than one second.

Roll 5 has the same server seed hash because it has the same server seed as rolls 2-4.

This user has multiple Chrome windows open in his taskbar so he is probably running the game simultaneously in more than one window. This seems to be what is causing the game to act buggy for some users where they are not getting true randomness in their results.

What is the server seed hash for? How do you derive the server seed hash from the server seed they give you after the roll?

You convert the server seed to sha256 to get the hash. It is used to make sure they didn't cheat by changing the server seed.

Okay, I'm willing to change my mind with enough evidence.

I rolled 98 times myself and found one result that was wrong. It was in my favor, but still the modulus was incorrect. Server seed listed seems to be wrong. Even hashing the server seed out with client seed gives a different rolled number. Best case, it is a display issue and that server seed belongs to another gambler and it is a mix-up in the display data not on the actual bet. Worse case, they are losing their house edge, or betters are being cheated. Hmm. It is something coinpot should fix for sure.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kd8TSzH5qhYu2uaUKEaPys4X4CGcJuI_1hzXddIFH6k/edit?usp=sharing

[dabbur]

the only help to fight agains this "scambling" sites like coinpot.co I've found is to block permanently their ads (see some pages ago) in order to they do not earn nothing with those ads.

Very interested in automatic claim software for a PI (or other) device.

Seem strange that you want to benefit with an automatic claim software and not view ads. Why would you block ads if you're using automated software? You wouldn't view the ads anyway... That's just mean. Maybe find things to be grateful for in your life.

I can not trust to coinpot's multiplier

Funny you say this because i hit 30k rolls last night with 1 token stake. I started yesterday with just 100 tokens. Surprised myself I lasted so long. On win, leave alone and multiply by 2x. On loss, alternate and reset. No one complains when you benefit from the rolls, but everyone bitches like hell when they lose. House edge last night was negative so they are losing on the token rolls overall. That doesn't mean you specifically will benefit... its just a roll of the dice.

are you rolling 30k every day?

[sunk818]

are you rolling 30k every day?

Am I rolling 30k claims a day, or you asking if I'm risking 30k tokens a day? I have a set limit of tokens I set for rolling. Some days are better than others. I like my token count to go up, so I tend to be more conservative with multiplier game.

[dabbur]

are you rolling 30k every day?

Am I rolling 30k claims a day, or you asking if I'm risking 30k tokens a day? I have a set limit of tokens I set for rolling. Some days are better than others. I like my token count to go up, so I tend to be more conservative with multiplier game.

I meant how many multiplier rolls a day are you playing per day? At the moment I am rolling every day 30000 times 1 token and as a result I am losing ca. 350 tokens per day on average. So this would be a house edge of about 1 percent, but I am winning the bonus token of course and therefore ending in winning territory.

[sunk818]

are you rolling 30k every day?

Am I rolling 30k claims a day, or you asking if I'm risking 30k tokens a day? I have a set limit of tokens I set for rolling. Some days are better than others. I like my token count to go up, so I tend to be more conservative with multiplier game.

I meant how many multiplier rolls a day are you playing per day? At the moment I am rolling every day 30000 times 1 token and as a result I am losing ca. 350 tokens per day on average. So this would be a house edge of about 1 percent, but I am winning the bonus token of course and therefore ending in winning territory.

Yeah, the bonus is helpful. I never really thought to roll 30k 1 tokens per day. It takes a long time and sometimes the site can't handle the load.

I roll just 100 tokens a day @ 1 token. I usually try to break even with the 1,000 claims bonus. Anything past that is gravy. Yesterday, just happened to be really nice because I got past 30k rolls with just 100 tokens.

[baby3d]

I can not trust to coinpot's multiplier : how many time i am experiencing some bizarre lags when number of rolls in a day is stuck for a long moment to 29995 rolls despite you have clicked more than 5 times, just to try to reach 30000 rolls (it happens too withe the staked tokens)
I don't know if the server is really lagging or it is a way to cheat on us...
That's my experience, this doesn't make any proof in one way or the other

Same here (months ago I verified that but no problem because after some minutes the rolls count). But... there is another "psicological" strategy of coinpot.co admin upseting users and making then (maybe) crazy rolls or sth.

but i was referring to another user (baby3d) that  has admitted his motives above - to get coinpot closed down forever

And yes, I say it one more time: I wanna see all SCAM sites like coinpot.co down. SCAM is really proved not only by me but lots of users when multiplier is cheating all users, specially in night time (CET) and very specially last two weeks in ANY time (CET or wherever you are).

Seem strange that you want to benefit with an automatic claim software and not view ads. Why would you block ads if you're using automated software? You wouldn't view the ads anyway... That's just mean. Maybe find things to be grateful for in your life.

I am blocking adds because I am only getting profit with faucet claims. I block ads since more than 1 year because is very evidenced for me that coinpot.co is cheating users with the multiplier and I consider this a SCAM. I still play multiplier rolls every day but I am facing more strategies and gathering more stats. I've seen there is another "randomly" cheat-provably-fair fails (like other user posted in a screenshot) but that "provably fair" does not matter for me (I never trusted any site like coinpot.co without answering mails years ago or cowardly administrated). I sent a mail years ago when moonbit.co.in faucet was a bug (if you program automatic reload of webpage when 1st claim then you do not need solve any captcha so you could auto-claim every 5 minutes), then 2 days after this the faucet solved that bug... but never replies to me.

Am I rolling 30k claims a day, or you asking if I'm risking 30k tokens a day? I have a set limit of tokens I set for rolling. Some days are better than others. I like my token count to go up, so I tend to be more conservative with multiplier game.

For today this is the best profit schema for sure... Months ago 100k every day but suddenly a day I got 7k token lost... and next day 3k token lost, so sth happened... Then, I rollback to the 30k rolls for a day... but some weeks ago... again... ridiculously more than 100 token lost with auto-roll when I was playing less than 150 rolls... (you can see the screenshot several posts back from this). But you will see: the 30k rolls strategy won't be good again... i.e: rolling 1000 tokens at 0:00 - 1:00 CET you get more than 300 token lost (tested yesterday and today). I think 1st multiplier is coming to an end for most coinpot.co users, and then coinpot.co will close when FCA focus finally on the site.

I meant how many multiplier rolls a day are you playing per day? At the moment I am rolling every day 30000 times 1 token and as a result I am losing ca. 350 tokens per day on average. So this would be a house edge of about 1 percent, but I am winning the bonus token of course and therefore ending in winning territory.

He he he... you will see... there will be a day then you will lost more than 1300 tokens, and next day more, and more... In this vicious-cycle there will be upset users who will get angry and ridiculously will bet more and more and will lost all their tokens. This is a part of coinpot.co fraud.

I'd like all coinpot.co users go to automated software to claim and no-seeing-ads to get coinpot.co down forever.

[sunk818]

I'd like all coinpot.co users go to automated software to claim and no-seeing-ads to get coinpot.co down forever.

Are you for Eastern Europe by chance?

[baby3d]

Another evidence for the suspicious behaviour of coinpot.co multiplier:



How could I roll more than 30k rolls and skate LESS than 30k???