[ANN] [PRE-SALE 30% BONUS] MASS Token - Masternode And Staking Service

[bobq]

Did the project slow down for technical reasons or the Devs are just enjoying an august sunny beach someewhere?

If you consider throwing 10's of thousands of your own personal money at lawyers to ensure the future of the project, spending countless hours answering emails, and working on the backend the same as being on a sunny beach, then yes.

Now, THIS is an answer that I really like
Devs with some sharp sense of humour is the best!

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[Bigbobbasher]

Hello,

doesnt follow contract protocol

Which contract?

project hasnt even gotten off the ground yet.

Rushing things sounds like a bad plan.

Want a sneak peak at how this project will go, spend 12 hours in their telegram

You mean the team being available 24/7, how about you try asking a question about MASS in the telegram and see how fast you get a response as well. By a question about MASS I mean an actual question about MASS itself, and not anything redundant such as "WHATS THE NEWS???" Try sending an email asking something see how fast of a response you get as well.

time lines, or how they are unaware of deadlines

What timeline, and what deadline? We wish we could be sorry about trying to be as careful as we can to protect the projects future, no amount of whining will change that. Certain things are out of our hands, you can understand that, right? If there are things that are out of our hands, any 'timeline' you reference or any non existent deadline you speak of gets changed. Right?

holding peoples money hostage.

By having a week long full no questions asked refund period. Which I have never seen before in any ICO ever.

If you are unhappy about the project, try offering to sell your pre-sale MASS in telegram.

Im sure more people wouldve requested a refund during that one werk period had you been honest and said: "we will not be resuming pre ico for another month, actual ico will not resume until mid to late september, project will not roll around until early october, and we will be spending a bunch of time preparing for this project from a legal perspective after we started the preico, which we shouldve done before preico. "
If all this is a preview of how actual product will go im glad i only tossed a few dimes your way.

[Bigbobbasher]

Hello,

doesnt follow contract protocol

Which contract?

project hasnt even gotten off the ground yet.

Rushing things sounds like a bad plan.

Want a sneak peak at how this project will go, spend 12 hours in their telegram

You mean the team being available 24/7, how about you try asking a question about MASS in the telegram and see how fast you get a response as well. By a question about MASS I mean an actual question about MASS itself, and not anything redundant such as "WHATS THE NEWS???" Try sending an email asking something see how fast of a response you get as well.

time lines, or how they are unaware of deadlines

What timeline, and what deadline? We wish we could be sorry about trying to be as careful as we can to protect the projects future, no amount of whining will change that. Certain things are out of our hands, you can understand that, right? If there are things that are out of our hands, any 'timeline' you reference or any non existent deadline you speak of gets changed. Right?

holding peoples money hostage.

By having a week long full no questions asked refund period. Which I have never seen before in any ICO ever.

If you are unhappy about the project, try offering to sell your pre-sale MASS in telegram.

Which contract?
The one where yak just refunded peoples money the other day because he  didnt agree with what they were saying or they hurt his ego. How can someone on team, yak, refund ppl with his own ether? Doesnt sound like that was in the presale contract?

[Bigbobbasher]

Hello,

doesnt follow contract protocol

Which contract?

project hasnt even gotten off the ground yet.

Rushing things sounds like a bad plan.

Want a sneak peak at how this project will go, spend 12 hours in their telegram

You mean the team being available 24/7, how about you try asking a question about MASS in the telegram and see how fast you get a response as well. By a question about MASS I mean an actual question about MASS itself, and not anything redundant such as "WHATS THE NEWS???" Try sending an email asking something see how fast of a response you get as well.

time lines, or how they are unaware of deadlines

What timeline, and what deadline? We wish we could be sorry about trying to be as careful as we can to protect the projects future, no amount of whining will change that. Certain things are out of our hands, you can understand that, right? If there are things that are out of our hands, any 'timeline' you reference or any non existent deadline you speak of gets changed. Right?

holding peoples money hostage.

By having a week long full no questions asked refund period. Which I have never seen before in any ICO ever.

If you are unhappy about the project, try offering to sell your pre-sale MASS in telegram.

Answering questions in the telegram? You mean badgering ppl, bullying them, taking what people say or ask as an insult, you mean? There hasnt been any constructive comments in there since before whitehats swooped in and saved the day.

[addicto]

Is there any update about bounty campaign what is future of that it's planned to launch but your manager is still offline. If you are still interested to run this than there are some people available to manage to this I think Irfan_pak10 will be best choice.

[kronos123]

Hi Dev I believe no one here is saying that you are a cheater, but as Bigbobbasher also says, we wanted to hear more clarity about you on the way to the project. That's all.
If I know the project stays for 2-3 months then I can decide in a different way how to use my money, or leave them to you.
Hello

[twoturtles]

Hello,

doesnt follow contract protocol

Which contract?

project hasnt even gotten off the ground yet.

Rushing things sounds like a bad plan.

Want a sneak peak at how this project will go, spend 12 hours in their telegram

You mean the team being available 24/7, how about you try asking a question about MASS in the telegram and see how fast you get a response as well. By a question about MASS I mean an actual question about MASS itself, and not anything redundant such as "WHATS THE NEWS???" Try sending an email asking something see how fast of a response you get as well.

time lines, or how they are unaware of deadlines

What timeline, and what deadline? We wish we could be sorry about trying to be as careful as we can to protect the projects future, no amount of whining will change that. Certain things are out of our hands, you can understand that, right? If there are things that are out of our hands, any 'timeline' you reference or any non existent deadline you speak of gets changed. Right?

holding peoples money hostage.

By having a week long full no questions asked refund period. Which I have never seen before in any ICO ever.

If you are unhappy about the project, try offering to sell your pre-sale MASS in telegram.

Im sure more people wouldve requested a refund during that one werk period had you been honest and said: "we will not be resuming pre ico for another month, actual ico will not resume until mid to late september, project will not roll around until early october, and we will be spending a bunch of time preparing for this project from a legal perspective after we started the preico, which we shouldve done before preico. "
If all this is a preview of how actual product will go im glad i only tossed a few dimes your way.

Even as it stands, we don't have a decision or date on resuming the pre-sale due to the fact we're awaiting details from counsel.  If he were to quote a time frame as you're suggesting he should have, it would have been a complete fabrication and guess.  Instead of doing that, we've been transparent about the situation throughout.  As far as "should have done before preico" as you state, these new guidelines were released by the SEC in the middle of the pre-sale, which in turn was promptly paused in light of.  Unfortunately, we're not able to see the future - so preparing for said guidelines ahead of time wasn't a possibility.  As far as the amount you have put in, please allow us to offer you a fair exit - post your address and we'll have you sign and verify that it is yours and we will allow a transfer of MASS in our back end system to another user and send you back your ETH.  We're incredibly fair people and transparent and we've been working hard to ensure that this surprise of regulatory suggestions are complied with.  Other projects in our position who value not just an instant profit but a long-term sustainable model have been exercising the same level of caution, and rightly so.  Some others have chosen just to simply assume they've interpreted these guidelines properly and proceed.  We can assure you after seeing some of those choosing the latter, it's looking to be a house of cards forming for them.  That's not what we want for folks working with us and participating in this project.

[twoturtles]

Hello,

doesnt follow contract protocol

Which contract?

project hasnt even gotten off the ground yet.

Rushing things sounds like a bad plan.

Want a sneak peak at how this project will go, spend 12 hours in their telegram

You mean the team being available 24/7, how about you try asking a question about MASS in the telegram and see how fast you get a response as well. By a question about MASS I mean an actual question about MASS itself, and not anything redundant such as "WHATS THE NEWS???" Try sending an email asking something see how fast of a response you get as well.

time lines, or how they are unaware of deadlines

What timeline, and what deadline? We wish we could be sorry about trying to be as careful as we can to protect the projects future, no amount of whining will change that. Certain things are out of our hands, you can understand that, right? If there are things that are out of our hands, any 'timeline' you reference or any non existent deadline you speak of gets changed. Right?

holding peoples money hostage.

By having a week long full no questions asked refund period. Which I have never seen before in any ICO ever.

If you are unhappy about the project, try offering to sell your pre-sale MASS in telegram.

Answering questions in the telegram? You mean badgering ppl, bullying them, taking what people say or ask as an insult, you mean? There hasnt been any constructive comments in there since before whitehats swooped in and saved the day.

yak is direct, blunt and rough around the edges which can be interpreted by some as unprofessional - if only it were the typical way in which he responded unprovoked all of the time.  You won't typically see this sort of response from him until you've repeatedly asked the same question in different semantics or clearly took a stance of instigation and antagonized out of frustration.  We are all frustrated here.  We're doing our best to handle the situation to the best of our ability, using personal resources and finances and we aren't blaming people for lashing out.  We all need some way to vent and place to do so in.  However, misdirected anger and misplaced blame aren't going to get anyone anywhere.  We'll all benefit more and be more productive working with each other rather than against each other.  So please, consider the fact we're all only human on the other side of the screen before you hit that enter key.

[Bigbobbasher]

Hello,

doesnt follow contract protocol

Which contract?

project hasnt even gotten off the ground yet.

Rushing things sounds like a bad plan.

Want a sneak peak at how this project will go, spend 12 hours in their telegram

You mean the team being available 24/7, how about you try asking a question about MASS in the telegram and see how fast you get a response as well. By a question about MASS I mean an actual question about MASS itself, and not anything redundant such as "WHATS THE NEWS???" Try sending an email asking something see how fast of a response you get as well.

time lines, or how they are unaware of deadlines

What timeline, and what deadline? We wish we could be sorry about trying to be as careful as we can to protect the projects future, no amount of whining will change that. Certain things are out of our hands, you can understand that, right? If there are things that are out of our hands, any 'timeline' you reference or any non existent deadline you speak of gets changed. Right?

holding peoples money hostage.

By having a week long full no questions asked refund period. Which I have never seen before in any ICO ever.

If you are unhappy about the project, try offering to sell your pre-sale MASS in telegram.

Im sure more people wouldve requested a refund during that one werk period had you been honest and said: "we will not be resuming pre ico for another month, actual ico will not resume until mid to late september, project will not roll around until early october, and we will be spending a bunch of time preparing for this project from a legal perspective after we started the preico, which we shouldve done before preico. "
If all this is a preview of how actual product will go im glad i only tossed a few dimes your way.

Even as it stands, we don't have a decision or date on resuming the pre-sale due to the fact we're awaiting details from counsel.  If he were to quote a time frame as you're suggesting he should have, it would have been a complete fabrication and guess.  Instead of doing that, we've been transparent about the situation throughout.  As far as "should have done before preico" as you state, these new guidelines were released by the SEC in the middle of the pre-sale, which in turn was promptly paused in light of.  Unfortunately, we're not able to see the future - so preparing for said guidelines ahead of time wasn't a possibility.  As far as the amount you have put in, please allow us to offer you a fair exit - post your address and we'll have you sign and verify that it is yours and we will allow a transfer of MASS in our back end system to another user and send you back your ETH.  We're incredibly fair people and transparent and we've been working hard to ensure that this surprise of regulatory suggestions are complied with.  Other projects in our position who value not just an instant profit but a long-term sustainable model have been exercising the same level of caution, and rightly so.  Some others have chosen just to simply assume they've interpreted these guidelines properly and proceed.  We can assure you after seeing some of those choosing the latter, it's looking to be a house of cards forming for them.  That's not what we want for folks working with us and participating in this project.

You should post this on your announcements page on telegram on your website, so that EVERYONE can get out if need be.
There were plenty of icos who did their due diligence well before the "sec" ruling no one said for you all to make up a date, my point is it appears as though you all were unprepared. Unpreparedness is not a good sign if its the only sign. But poor communication by yak, who obviously shouldnt be your alls front man, but instead someone who works in the back of the house, has instead raised other red flags, that taken together with poor preparation, screams maybe you all should refund everyones money, get your shit together and then restart once you have a clue how to handle something so monumental. But holding peoples funds hostage while you "figure it out," does not give you the best positive pr im sure your project deserves.

[Bigbobbasher]

Hello,

doesnt follow contract protocol

Which contract?

project hasnt even gotten off the ground yet.

Rushing things sounds like a bad plan.

Want a sneak peak at how this project will go, spend 12 hours in their telegram

You mean the team being available 24/7, how about you try asking a question about MASS in the telegram and see how fast you get a response as well. By a question about MASS I mean an actual question about MASS itself, and not anything redundant such as "WHATS THE NEWS???" Try sending an email asking something see how fast of a response you get as well.

time lines, or how they are unaware of deadlines

What timeline, and what deadline? We wish we could be sorry about trying to be as careful as we can to protect the projects future, no amount of whining will change that. Certain things are out of our hands, you can understand that, right? If there are things that are out of our hands, any 'timeline' you reference or any non existent deadline you speak of gets changed. Right?

holding peoples money hostage.

By having a week long full no questions asked refund period. Which I have never seen before in any ICO ever.

If you are unhappy about the project, try offering to sell your pre-sale MASS in telegram.

Answering questions in the telegram? You mean badgering ppl, bullying them, taking what people say or ask as an insult, you mean? There hasnt been any constructive comments in there since before whitehats swooped in and saved the day.

yak is direct, blunt and rough around the edges which can be interpreted by some as unprofessional - if only it were the typical way in which he responded unprovoked all of the time.  You won't typically see this sort of response from him until you've repeatedly asked the same question in different semantics or clearly took a stance of instigation and antagonized out of frustration.  We are all frustrated here.  We're doing our best to handle the situation to the best of our ability, using personal resources and finances and we aren't blaming people for lashing out.  We all need some way to vent and place to do so in.  However, misdirected anger and misplaced blame aren't going to get anyone anywhere.  We'll all benefit more and be more productive working with each other rather than against each other.  So please, consider the fact we're all only human on the other side of the screen before you hit that enter key.

I witnessed personally yak go back and forth with a guy with the telehram handle miko goat for literally 3 hours about whether bitcoin was a coin or token. Yak was not provoked at all, he just went off. And this was even after miko brought up actual dictionary definitions of the words. And that is one of at least 300 instances ive either heard of or witnessed. He "copy and pasted" private ims that occured with him and another telegram user into the main chat in order to harass and show his "power."
"yak is direct, blunt and rough around the edges which can be interpreted by some as unprofessional - if only it were the typical way in which he responded unprovoked all of the time."
We all are emotional creatures and can get a bit overreactive, but you shouldnt have someone as your frontman for your COMPANY, who cant come up with more creative responses than" f0ck off," badgering, and 5 year old responses. PR and the marketing of your product can lead to your success and failure just as much as poor execution of yoyr exvellent product.

[masstoken]

I witnessed personally yak go back and forth with a guy with the telehram handle miko goat

You can stop right there.

This user not only spammed the chat to the point they had to be banned, at which point they came on trying to impersonate team members, and private messaged threats to other team members, as well as spammed members in private chat.

So what you 'witnessed' is wrong.

Please private message me your pre-sale MASS address, I have a buyer for it.

[Bigbobbasher]

I witnessed personally yak go back and forth with a guy with the telehram handle miko goat

You can stop right there.

This user not only spammed the chat to the point they had to be banned, at which point they came on trying to impersonate team members, and private messaged threats to other team members, as well as spammed members in private chat.

So what you 'witnessed' is wrong.

Please private message me your pre-sale MASS address, I have a buyer for it.

Like i said, one of hundreds, i witnessed yak do. Again, post that you will refund EVERYONES money who wants it on announcement channel, not those who are willing to expose your developing PR nightmare.

[Johnny00]

I witnessed personally yak go back and forth with a guy with the telehram handle miko goat

You can stop right there.

This user not only spammed the chat to the point they had to be banned, at which point they came on trying to impersonate team members, and private messaged threats to other team members, as well as spammed members in private chat.

So what you 'witnessed' is wrong.

Please private message me your pre-sale MASS address, I have a buyer for it.

Like i said, one of hundreds, i witnessed yak do. Again, post that you will refund EVERYONES money who wants it on announcement channel, not those who are willing to expose your developing PR nightmare.

You had a week and I think you can still get a refund now and buy back at double when it hits the exchanges. People don't like yak but at least he is around.  I assume he gets the same question 100 times around a day and people don't look at the past history of the chat.

[Faeryl]

Miko goat was the one acting like a 5 year old in that conversation, and he was extremely provocative.

Shame they already had a buyer for your presale mass, i'd have taken it in a heartbeat.

[Bigbobbasher]

Miko goat was the one acting like a 5 year old in that conversation, and he was extremely provocative.

Shame they already had a buyer for your presale mass, i'd have taken it in a heartbeat.

Miko could have acted like a child, but hes not the front man for a potential 20 million dollar company.
1. unprepared
2. Putting emotional person as front man
3. Failure to follow timelines
4. not offering refunds to EVERYONE after disclosure of legal delays.

[Bigbobbasher]

Basically by saying that yaks reactions are right has a lot of stuff to deal with is akin to a giant football player beating up his wife because she smacked him. Yak has to be the bigger guy... And so far i didjt, nor have i seen him even come close.

[masstoken]

Basically by saying that yaks reactions are right has a lot of stuff to deal with is akin to a giant football player beating up his wife because she smacked him. Yak has to be the bigger guy... And so far i didjt, nor have i seen him even come close.

You haven't messaged us yet.

[Faeryl]

The refunds were offered to everyone for a whole week.
They were painstakingly manually processed, whilst the poor team had to put up with all the bullish people screaming for "leave the refund, lets roll out the ico and get staking already" "they can sell their tokens post ico and profit."

The team took a difficult decision to delay the project to see everyone that wanted a chance to exit/refund got that fair chance, assuming they actually cared enough to check in to see what was happening.

You are distorting the truth to serve your agenda.

It is also the responsibility of the investor to do their due diligence when investing their hard earned funds into the wild wild west of crypto.

You don't just invest and forget. You follow the announcements, the telegram chat, the bitcointalk thread. You check for updates like "Due to the white hat incident we are offering a full refund to all who wish it."

And as for unprepared, most ICOs seem to be taking the easy route out and simply cutting US investors from their ico in a quick easy and dirty way to meet SEC guidance.
Mass is preparing to meet those legal obligations by getting expert advice in a cutting edge environment with no clear legal framework, only guidance.

I heartily commend their diligence in ensuring mass is a profitable legal venture for decades to come.


ill personally offer my assistance to the dev team in making whole anyone that wants out up to my limit in eth assuming they are willing to act as escrow agents.


It saves me the issues of constantly checking for the re presale announcement, and guarantees me a place in the presale in as you say a potential 20 million dollar company from the ground floor elevator position.

[Bigbobbasher]

The refunds were offered to everyone for a whole week.
They were painstakingly manually processed, whilst the poor team had to put up with all the bullish people screaming for "leave the refund, lets roll out the ico and get staking already" "they can sell their tokens post ico and profit."

The team took a difficult decision to delay the project to see everyone that wanted a chance to exit/refund got that fair chance, assuming they actually cared enough to check in to see what was happening.

You are distorting the truth to serve your agenda.

It is also the responsibility of the investor to do their due diligence when investing their hard earned funds into the wild wild west of crypto.

You don't just invest and forget. You follow the announcements, the telegram chat, the bitcointalk thread. You check for updates like "Due to the white hat incident we are offering a full refund to all who wish it."

And as for unprepared, most ICOs seem to be taking the easy route out and simply cutting US investors from their ico in a quick easy and dirty way to meet SEC guidance.
Mass is preparing to meet those legal obligations by getting expert advice in a cutting edge environment with no clear legal framework, only guidance.

I heartily commend their diligence in ensuring mass is a profitable legal venture for decades to come.


ill personally offer my assistance to the dev team in making whole anyone that wants out up to my limit in eth assuming they are willing to act as escrow agents.


It saves me the issues of constantly checking for the re presale announcement, and guarantees me a place in the presale in as you say a potential 20 million dollar company from the ground floor elevator position.

This refund they offered had nothing to do with the legal delay that has now been ongoing for close to 3 weeks. If you cant see their unpreparedness here, fine, but i promise you be prepared for more excuses and delays and "issues" once this launches. Its inevitable.
Everyone loves "their little precious," needless to say, those involved with this project need to take a step back and regroup.

[masstoken]

This refund they offered had nothing to do with the legal delay that has now been ongoing for close to 3 weeks. If you cant see their unpreparedness here, fine, but i promise you be prepared for more excuses and delays and "issues" once this launches. Its inevitable.
Everyone loves "their little precious," needless to say, those involved with this project need to take a step back and regroup.

Message us your mass presale account so we can sell them for you? We have some buyers lined up.
I believe even Faeryl might be willing to take them off your hands.