[ANN] [PRE-SALE 30% BONUS] MASS Token - Masternode And Staking Service

[Bigbobbasher]

How about we keep it productive instead of trolling, those invested don't wanna read an extra 10 pages of shit to read what's going on with their investment 👍

Productivity is the teams responsibility. Being evasive and not communicating effectively with the investors on a regular informative basis on the announcements page is how the team likes to be productive.

1. Get a job
2. Don't invest more than you can afford to lose

Number 2 is critical, because if you invest more, you will turn full retard in bct.

I hv a great job. Im not heavily invested in this project. But even if i was still doesnt change that mass team has handled this very poorly.

[Hoedown25]

http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-security-equity-sec-2017-7

Can we ask the lawyers for an update please?

Doesn't look like any way of avoiding classification as a security at some point. If not now, then in the future it seems clear that mass will be caught by the Howey test which is apparently a key test.

I think a date to call refunds for all, exclusion & refund of U.S. Citizens only or ico and launch would be good at this stage. September starts next week.

Shame to see ether sitting there doing nothing. (apart from increase in value)

Thanks

[Bigbobbasher]

http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-security-equity-sec-2017-7

Can we ask the lawyers for an update please?

Doesn't look like any way of avoiding classification as a security at some point. If not now, then in the future it seems clear that mass will be caught by the Howey test which is apparently a key test.

I think a date to call refunds for all, exclusion & refund of U.S. Citizens only or ico and launch would be good at this stage. September starts next week.

Shame to see ether sitting there doing nothing. (apart from increase in value)

Thanks

Cant just refund us ppl.. No way of knowing who all are... Like ive been saying last 10 pages. Only way to do this is refund EVERYONES money and start over.

[Hoedown25]

http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-security-equity-sec-2017-7

Can we ask the lawyers for an update please?

Doesn't look like any way of avoiding classification as a security at some point. If not now, then in the future it seems clear that mass will be caught by the Howey test which is apparently a key test.

I think a date to call refunds for all, exclusion & refund of U.S. Citizens only or ico and launch would be good at this stage. September starts next week.

Shame to see ether sitting there doing nothing. (apart from increase in value)

Thanks

Cant just refund us ppl.. No way of knowing who all are... Like ive been saying last 10 pages. Only way to do this is refund EVERYONES money and start over.

Fair enough. That would do!

It seems really clear cut so not sure why the hold up for the lawyers.

I was fairly annoyed yesterday, but after a day off calming down, I think I'm clear that I just want out of this pipe dream.

Will only end in a refund in January 2018 with nothing but time wasted I reckon.

[trademark]

http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-security-equity-sec-2017-7

Can we ask the lawyers for an update please?

Doesn't look like any way of avoiding classification as a security at some point. If not now, then in the future it seems clear that mass will be caught by the Howey test which is apparently a key test.

I think a date to call refunds for all, exclusion & refund of U.S. Citizens only or ico and launch would be good at this stage. September starts next week.

Shame to see ether sitting there doing nothing. (apart from increase in value)

Thanks

Cant just refund us ppl.. No way of knowing who all are... Like ive been saying last 10 pages. Only way to do this is refund EVERYONES money and start over.

Fair enough. That would do!

It seems really clear cut so not sure why the hold up for the lawyers.

I was fairly annoyed yesterday, but after a day off calming down, I think I'm clear that I just want out of this pipe dream.

Will only end in a refund in January 2018 with nothing but time wasted I reckon.

If you like masternodes projects, which you obviously do, because you invested in mass, there is a real project called helium thats about to lift off.

Not cool what you're trying to do here.  Complaining about the Mass team even though they have offered you a refund which you won't accept and now you are in the "Mass tokens" thread trying to promoting a different project. 

The Mass team should contact the Helium team to get this guy disqualified from the signature campaign.  He's just making the Helium project look bad by trolling the competition. 

[PANCrypto]

It's clear that those two clowns BigBob.. and Hoedown25 are on the same team or even the same person and that they are trying to sabotage the project. They are obviously not real people who have invested in the project but only here to troll and spread FUD.

Just look at their names one is here to Bash and the other is trying to Hoe down this project.

I have both ignored but if people react to them I still see them spewing their venom.

[Bigbobbasher]

It's clear that those two clowns BigBob.. and Hoedown25 are on the same team or even the same person and that they are trying to sabotage the project. They are obviously not real people who have invested in the project but only here to troll and spread FUD.

Just look at their names one is here to Bash and the other is trying to Hoe down this project.

I have both ignored but if people react to them I still see them spewing their venom.

I dont need to "spread fud"... The mass team is doing a fine job themselves by taking a month to figure out legal details, and by dropoing one liners on their announcement page. I dont understand what you all dont get.

[Hoedown25]

It's clear that those two clowns BigBob.. and Hoedown25 are on the same team or even the same person and that they are trying to sabotage the project. They are obviously not real people who have invested in the project but only here to troll and spread FUD.

Just look at their names one is here to Bash and the other is trying to Hoe down this project.

I have both ignored but if people react to them I still see them spewing their venom.

For the record,  I don't know Bob.

I joined yesterday after being muted and thus being prevented from any communication with the team that has my ether so took to the next most appropriate channel to get my ethers worth of grievance aired in a last ditch effort of getting some substantive answers. The official response from the mass team was that I must be "buthurt"  whatever that means.

I'm just pissed off that some kids have scammed me for ether. Telegram is full of soft porn gifs and chat about world of warcraft. I'm bitter that I didn't see it earlier but never used it before.

This is going to go down either as the biggest refund of ether from an ico (and therefore waste of time and money) or worse than chain coin the day it gets into a minor exchange.

Read telegram.... Some people are using the term "moon" but day they are in it long-term.....gonna be a fire sale...

[Hoedown25]

Positive projects get the occasional fud from people trying to manipulate prices /value.

What's happening here (in my view) is just people being called idiots and other insults by the project team told be quiet after investing.

That's not fud in the normal sense of the term. It's genuine concern that money is lost or being handled by people that haven't proved they qualify to handle that kind of cash.

Where is the rest of the team while all this goes on? Seems like a one man band from my experience!

[kronos123]

I wanted to know if there is a chat moderator who was able to delete these messages and prevent them from writing back to some users.
It's absurd and unreadable a chat like this ...... 10 pages of accusations and mutual offenses!

Stop please!

[Hoedown25]

I wanted to know if there is a chat moderator who was able to delete these messages and prevent them from writing back to some users.
It's absurd and unreadable a chat like this ...... 10 pages of accusations and mutual offenses!

Stop please!

Sorry man,  you're right. Will stay off the thread from here on in.

[Bigbobbasher]

I wanted to know if there is a chat moderator who was able to delete these messages and prevent them from writing back to some users.
It's absurd and unreadable a chat like this ...... 10 pages of accusations and mutual offenses!

Stop please!

Name just one thing ive said in those 10 pages thats wrong?

[knau5]

By ranting on for 10 pages about stuff we all already know, you create a ripple effect of more people that cba reading through FUD to get information they seek. This leads to even more people jumping on the train demanding answers they are too lazy to find. You are pissing the team and all supporters off, you have as much information as we do, why not just wait for them to announce it, you clearly have asked them repeatedly for updates and I'm sure they will never forget your name nor your questions.
Hounding them will not make lawyers work faster and frankly it won't make the team any happier about delivering information that everyone just spams away.

How about complete radio silence from critics? You all said what you want to say stop spamming it or it's gonna take days to find the answers we are looking for.

[Bigbobbasher]

By ranting on for 10 pages about stuff we all already know, you create a ripple effect of more people that cba reading through FUD to get information they seek. This leads to even more people jumping on the train demanding answers they are too lazy to find. You are pissing the team and all supporters off, you have as much information as we do, why not just wait for them to announce it, you clearly have asked them repeatedly for updates and I'm sure they will never forget your name nor your questions.
Hounding them will not make lawyers work faster and frankly it won't make the team any happier about delivering information that everyone just spams away.

How about complete radio silence from critics? You all said what you want to say stop spamming it or it's gonna take days to find the answers we are looking for.

There are no answers to find. I listed the answers to all the questions. There is no reason why a lawyer should take a month to figure this out. Itd be like a multiple choice test with only 2 options and i take the whole hour before answering. Make a fucking choice already! The team created its own fud. This is all on them, for telling ppl to fuck off, not communicating effectively on the announcements channel (want to see hiw effecrive communication on an announcements channel works, see kybernetwork or enigma: constant updates, reasons  why, etc), not offering a refund after their 2nd DELAY, and being evasive when asked wtf is going on point blank. If you cant read between the lines, maybe you're the one who should take some time off.

[knau5]

I politely told you to fek off, and yet your still ranting, pointing out the exact same shit you have been doing for 11 pages.. You are beyond help, have fun talking to yourself.

/ignore

[majestymage]

this dude is just spamming this thread..if you do not like this coin, fuck off and let us just be free of fud and spam. go make your number of posts someplace else

[Faeryl]

He obviously has some sort of agenda, because multiple people have offered to buy him out of his position and release him from his so called unfairly delayed investment but he wont take anyone up on the offer.

Hes not even particularly good at fudding since he cant even criticise the business model.

Essentially it boils down to  "waaah waaah waaah, delay, unfair, want refund" and "I dont like straight shooter Yak who doesnt suffer fools gladly". (when offered refund also refuses refund)


Mass is quintessentially

An investment into a limited supply (possible maximum of 61000000) tokens, each representing a share of the majority of ether garnered during the ICO.

2 Months after project inception, people can burn mass to get Eth at 90% of the value of the funds under management which makes every mass token give a greater share of the reward per day.

The assets under management will fluctuate in value with time, but due to unstaked Mass reward being reinvested into buying more masternode coins the amount of masternodes represented will ever increase.

Holders will be protected from extreme price swings by having a wide diversified set of nodes represented within the portfolio.

If a particular coin goes to the moon, Mass will sell some of it, and reward holders with an Eth payout, and potentially buy back in when it normalises in price.

Because Mass can be directly exchanged for Ether with the burn function it doesn't just derive its value from the fact it is a dividend paying coin, but from the fact its directly interchangable with the assets held by Mass

Because unstaked rewards are put back in the pool traders benefit from trading mass (assuming they make profit) and Hodlers benefit from more payouts as more masternodes are added each month.


The model is elegant and simple in its inherent beauty as a money making machine which like a fine wine improves with age.

I look forward to seeing the project unfold and grow over time.

[cryptosifu]

When will this project be up and rolling again?  Timing is everything and the price of ETH is rising, once the ico starts, those involved with the presale will be in great shape. 

[orange399]

Hopefully soon. 1 month in the cypto world is like 1 year in the real world.

[dbc23]

Agree that this is creeping along too slowly, i'm about ready to offer my presale tokens and maybe buying back in when it gets moving again.