Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3

[cuteman]

damn i was wrong i was expecting 50 mil diff but it seems now that it will go to near 60

i think bitmain is "testing" right now for before shipping

Yeah     Now difficulty retraced to 26M.   DO you think this is Bitmain who causes jumps to above 50M ??

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[cuteman]

Why is Bitmain getting all the blames? A5 DashMaster started shipping in bulk FYI.

Why difficulty jumps to 50+ and back to 25?   Anybody can explain?

[cuteman]

I have to ask what next trick of the one trick pony BITMAIN, can they make a faster s9? Many are saying NOT

Experts are saying they also can't do equihash or ethash anytime soon,  they must be really worried.

I suspect in a year nobody will even remember their name, like so many since 2011 that are no longer mentioned ( asic miners )

So how long do you think S9 and L3 will be profitable?

[cuteman]

so all of these buyrs just lost investments?

They thought they could make thousand of dollars each month, so rather holding btc, they bought trashes from Bitmain.

Do you mean that mining has no sence, because you could just buy bitcoin and holding it brings more money? 

[cuteman]

interesting thoughts from Inno branch:

Once the Dash difficulty reaches 65 000 000 then D3's will officially cost more to run than they will be making. (at current rates ect..) The difficulty is at 36 000 000 as of the time of this writing.

Contrast that to the A5. The mining difficulty would have to reach 180 000 000 before the A5's are obsolete in the US (given average US power costs.. other areas will vary). If the A5 used the same power draw as the D3, then the network difficulty would need to reach 110 000 000 before profits are lost. Either way, much better than the D3 of course.

[lashatatu]

damn i was wrong i was expecting 50 mil diff but it seems now that it will go to near 60

i think bitmain is "testing" right now for before shipping

Yeah     Now difficulty retraced to 26M.   DO you think this is Bitmain who causes jumps to above 50M ??

i think they test units before they ship so i think it's bitmain but somebody suggested that it's a5 innisilicon

[lashatatu]

interesting thoughts from Inno branch:

Once the Dash difficulty reaches 65 000 000 then D3's will officially cost more to run than they will be making. (at current rates ect..) The difficulty is at 36 000 000 as of the time of this writing.

Contrast that to the A5. The mining difficulty would have to reach 180 000 000 before the A5's are obsolete in the US (given average US power costs.. other areas will vary). If the A5 used the same power draw as the D3, then the network difficulty would need to reach 110 000 000 before profits are lost. Either way, much better than the D3 of course.

thing is once d3 becomes unprofitable, i mean once it will lose money instead of making it most of D3 owners will switch it off but it depends on electricity rates, so some will switch it off earlier some later, but thing is because of that difficulty wont become more then 70mil, i dont think that innosilicon can deliver such amounts as bitmain, and even if they could d3 will be switching off and that will balance out difficulty. this is not good thing for us but in case of difficulty it will balance out

[COINKING84]

I was a time traveler, i found out the D3 ends up being the best miner ever, because you can mine other coins besides dash, and one of them becomes the global cryptocurrency in the year 2025.

[jelin1984]

can change the fans of bimain D3

or not will be work???

[Dockin]

interesting thoughts from Inno branch:

Once the Dash difficulty reaches 65 000 000 then D3's will officially cost more to run than they will be making. (at current rates ect..) The difficulty is at 36 000 000 as of the time of this writing.

Contrast that to the A5. The mining difficulty would have to reach 180 000 000 before the A5's are obsolete in the US (given average US power costs.. other areas will vary). If the A5 used the same power draw as the D3, then the network difficulty would need to reach 110 000 000 before profits are lost. Either way, much better than the D3 of course.

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thing is once d3 becomes unprofitable, i mean once it will lose money instead of making it most of D3 owners will switch it off but it depends on electricity rates, so some will switch it off earlier some later, but thing is because of that difficulty wont become more then 70mil, i dont think that innosilicon can deliver such amounts as bitmain, and even if they could d3 will be switching off and that will balance out difficulty. this is not good thing for us but in case of difficulty it will balance out

I agree that many D3's will be forced to turn off soon after the A5s start running, unless they have much cheaper than average (or free) power.
I think that too many people saw the false potential to make $150 000 a year with a D3 using one of the online calculators and went all in as soon as they can.
There hasn't been a investment mining "opportunity" that has ever had potential to yield as much as a D3 or A5 so I think that's why the difficulty has shot up more than most had ever seen coming.

Eventually in the long run, things will even out. People will take their losses, and the D3 will end up making roughly as much as the Antminer S7 does in Bitcoin now, and the Innosilicon A5 will be making as much as the Antminer S9 is making in Bitcoin now. It's a rough estimate, but it makes sense as the performance of the two (Dash miners and Bitcoin miners) are somewhat similar. This is a comparison that doesn't take into account price fluctuations or market size and impact or Dash.. we will see how that comes into play eventually.

Currently the Antminer S9 is more profitable in Bitcoin than any Dash miner on the market. This is proof that the Dash mining difficulty will not be able to continue on it's exponential increase. Otherwise, everybody will soon be mining at a loss, and I hope for the sake of everybody that nobody is doing that.

There is one other scenario that I hope is not true. Because Dash mining has just exploded with interest and is relatively new to the corporate mining industry, I believe that it's possible that corporations have managed to create more efficient miners (more so than the Innosilicon A5) and are just running them themselves without releasing them into the public. If this were the case, then nobody else would have a chance, and Dash becomes a centralized garbage coin. 

[BenRickert]

can change the fans of bimain D3

or not will be work???

Yes, go to miner configuration. Look to the bottom. you'll see fan speed "default" or you can highlight that box and set manually. I recommend you set them to 90% - 100 % depending on the ambient temps around the miners. I would also down clock your frequency to 525 Mhz or lower.

[BenRickert]

interesting thoughts from Inno branch:

Once the Dash difficulty reaches 65 000 000 then D3's will officially cost more to run than they will be making. (at current rates ect..) The difficulty is at 36 000 000 as of the time of this writing.

Contrast that to the A5. The mining difficulty would have to reach 180 000 000 before the A5's are obsolete in the US (given average US power costs.. other areas will vary). If the A5 used the same power draw as the D3, then the network difficulty would need to reach 110 000 000 before profits are lost. Either way, much better than the D3 of course.

I thought I recognized that post

thing is once d3 becomes unprofitable, i mean once it will lose money instead of making it most of D3 owners will switch it off but it depends on electricity rates, so some will switch it off earlier some later, but thing is because of that difficulty wont become more then 70mil, i dont think that innosilicon can deliver such amounts as bitmain, and even if they could d3 will be switching off and that will balance out difficulty. this is not good thing for us but in case of difficulty it will balance out

I agree that many D3's will be forced to turn off soon after the A5s start running, unless they have much cheaper than average (or free) power.
I think that too many people saw the false potential to make $150 000 a year with a D3 using one of the online calculators and went all in as soon as they can.
There hasn't been a investment mining "opportunity" that has ever had potential to yield as much as a D3 or A5 so I think that's why the difficulty has shot up more than most had ever seen coming.

Eventually in the long run, things will even out. People will take their losses, and the D3 will end up making roughly as much as the Antminer S7 does in Bitcoin now, and the Innosilicon A5 will be making as much as the Antminer S9 is making in Bitcoin now. It's a rough estimate, but it makes sense as the performance of the two (Dash miners and Bitcoin miners) are somewhat similar. This is a comparison that doesn't take into account price fluctuations or market size and impact or Dash.. we will see how that comes into play eventually.

Currently the Antminer S9 is more profitable in Bitcoin than any Dash miner on the market. This is proof that the Dash mining difficulty will not be able to continue on it's exponential increase. Otherwise, everybody will soon be mining at a loss, and I hope for the sake of everybody that nobody is doing that.

There is one other scenario that I hope is not true. Because Dash mining has just exploded with interest and is relatively new to the corporate mining industry, I believe that it's possible that corporations have managed to create more efficient miners (more so than the Innosilicon A5) and are just running them themselves without releasing them into the public. If this were the case, then nobody else would have a chance, and Dash becomes a centralized garbage coin. 

Best "Noobie" post....ever.

[COINKING84]

lol, Im not turning off my D3 till they explode. You can make money if you try.

[juninhodecio]

Funny people trying to compare a5 with D3 both are garbage right now but a5 cost 10k ( 6x D3 price ) will never ROI

[altobeli]

Smart ass- luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, and echo are ALL PARTS OF X11 CHAINED ALGORITHM. Why can't you just research on your own. You are like the vast majority of people here. Have no clue what's going on.

you are abs. right concerning the majority of persons here....really strange comments from a lot of so called business people....but your idea sounds really interesting....respect
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Hi guys , i ve just got my antminer D3, the profit is 5 $ a day  , i am at nicecash mining bitcoins with D3 , could you advise me any other sites for mining or it will be the same profit either .....,
Thanks in advance

[mdude77]

Smart ass- luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, and echo are ALL PARTS OF X11 CHAINED ALGORITHM. Why can't you just research on your own. You are like the vast majority of people here. Have no clue what's going on.

you are abs. right concerning the majority of persons here....really strange comments from a lot of so called business people....but your idea sounds really interesting....respect

Hi guys , i ve just got my antminer D3, the profit is 5 $ a day  , i am at nicecash mining bitcoins with D3 , could you advise me any other sites for mining or it will be the same profit either .....,
Thanks in advance
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If you are going to NiceHash, be sure to mine to NiceHash wallet, not external.  That'll reduce your fees.

(see my sig for a ref!

M

[altobeli]

Excuse me M , how can i find your ref ? would please give me a link to it.... My friend has L3 and he was mining at nicecash and donot know any other way

so your help with your ref  will be very pleased, thanks 

[invisiblefriend321]

not a newbie at all ---    been mining and involved in many aspects for years --


yes -- i should have known better -- even after doing the math ---

but honestly -- to expect the results at delivery or pre-delivery ,,,,,,,,

that is not fair !



and if anyone dealt with actual sales department ! -- not just online banter or calculators ...  the sales reps did some heavy talking and convincing -- and the newbies and the old timers bought into it especially as they contain bed the special releases "when available "?   

some incredible marketing


but for a company this large -- who is behind all these machines and behind so so much of the industry from manufacturing to btc.com to the collection of holdings they have !       i would expect a level of professionalism between us all -- it should be like dealing with a wholesaler -- not just running blind to the tv department looking for the biggest and the best

they know they are dealing with educated and people trying to stay one step above technology or above the curve --

not blaming them completely --

i fell for it so its on me -----

but i cannot complain about the good times bit main always offered me from the past with the same company --yet -- this time they got greedy or nervous or a combo --

peace and best of luck

kindcrypto
 
https://bitconnect.co/?ref=kindcorp

[Searing]

lol, Im not turning off my D3 till they explode. You can make money if you try.

ditto.....I will run them at a loss....just in case...I ran KNC Titans at ALMOST a loss in 2014 on the hope LTC would come back

but mainly, it is because it is my toy...and I'll just run it in the ground out of spite...

(man, bitmain is giving me 'issues')

[mohima1230]

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damn i was wrong i was expecting 50 mil diff but it seems now that it will go to near 60

i think bitmain is "testing" right now for before shipping

Yeah     Now difficulty retraced to 26M.   DO you think this is Bitmain who causes jumps to above 50M ??

i think they test units before they ship so i think it's bitmain but somebody suggested that it's a5 innisilicon

so by the end of this month we may see above stable difficulty of 50 M ? so what about January 2018?