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June 03, 2018, 03:04:34 PM
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Can you mine ZEN with Antminer z9 mini ASIC?


Of course you can. But on June 26th, you won't be able anymore.
Yes It can be mined with Asic. Please explain me what will happen on this date - June 26th?

he thinks the fork is on June 26

I think or it will?

Please correct me if I'm wrong

https://hype.codes/zencash-undergo-hard-fork

"ZenCash will initiate a hard fork on June 26 as a response to a production of the Bitmain AntMiner Z9 Equihash ASIC miner"
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June 03, 2018, 03:38:12 PM
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Binance require 100 confirmations temporarily, always better to store your coins in your own wallet  Smiley

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June 03, 2018, 03:38:56 PM
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Can you mine ZEN with Antminer z9 mini ASIC?


Of course you can. But on June 26th, you won't be able anymore.
Yes It can be mined with Asic. Please explain me what will happen on this date - June 26th?

he thinks the fork is on June 26

I think or it will?

Please correct me if I'm wrong

https://hype.codes/zencash-undergo-hard-fork

"ZenCash will initiate a hard fork on June 26 as a response to a production of the Bitmain AntMiner Z9 Equihash ASIC miner"
They did not followed updates.

when fork?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh
block height or date?
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First Hard Fork will occur in July to modify the protocol and allow the change in miner reward division to 10% supernodes, 10% securenodes, 10% treasury, 70% miners.
Second fork is planned minimum two months after the first one, and it will be focused on the extended transactions confirmation.

ZenCash Statement On Potential Equihash Algorithm Change
https://blog.zencash.com/zencash-statement-on-potential-equihash-algorithm-change/




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June 03, 2018, 03:44:19 PM
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They did not followed updates.

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First Hard Fork will occur in July to modify the protocol and allow the change in miner reward division to 10% supernodes, 10% securenodes, 10% treasury, 70% miners.
Second fork is planned minimum two months after the first one, and it will be focused on the extended transactions confirmation.

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ZenCash Statement On Potential Equihash Algorithm Change
https://blog.zencash.com/zencash-statement-on-potential-equihash-algorithm-change/

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June 03, 2018, 03:46:50 PM
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How to Stake your Securenode using the Ledger Nano S

https://www.zen-solutions.io/how-to-stake-your-securenode-using-the-ledger-nano-s/

Thanks to psyrax

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June 03, 2018, 04:21:04 PM
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Guys, do you have anywhere blockchain data file for download, haven't been syncing from last year and now this is taking some time with this latest wallet.
Each initial sync of a wallet also does important work of re-verifying the whole blockchain, with a snapshot this would be skipped.
This process, should be never bootstrapped because the nodes do a important work re-verifying the chain. Future developments will mitigate need for full-blockchain wallets. I must encourage you to consider using Arizen except for private transactions, it is more convenient if you asking me.

Ok, thanks, my sync is currently on 5th of March  Smiley sooooo slow Cry.

About your suggestion to use Arizen istead of QT wallet, what can I do to import my wallet to Arizen, are they even compatible?
 

Normally it takes on the order of 6-12 hours for full 100% sync. on a PC with relatively good CPU/HDD/network connection.  In my case this was 18 hours  Lips sealed

Swing and Arizen Wallets are not compatible you can't import wallet.dat, but you can import Private keys.

Arizen->
* Import Private Key in WIF and HEX format (Compatible with Swing wallet).
 * Export Private Key in WIF and HEX format (Compatible with Swing wallet).

Arizen v1.1.7 has been released

main feature: support for private Z addresses and transactions for Secure Node operators! First real-world use-case for ZEN Secure Nodes.

Download here: https://github.com/ZencashOfficial/arizen/releases/tag/v1.1.7

Arizen User Manual v1.1.7 has been released  you can download it directly here: https://github.com/ZencashOfficial/arizen/releases/download/v1.1.7/Arizen.v1.1.7.Wallet.User.Manual.pdf


Thanks MedaR for explanation,
 I am currently 15 days under the full sync, after I get this wallet to 100% I will install Arizen and try to import keys to see the differences in these two wallets. Wink
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June 03, 2018, 08:08:50 PM
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Anyone can tell me
After exporting the keys from Arizen to Swing,  the transparent addresses are here but one address is empty (while it should show the coins in)
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June 03, 2018, 08:30:44 PM
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Try this it should help you

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June 03, 2018, 08:46:32 PM
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thank you Smiley
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June 03, 2018, 09:12:16 PM
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As shipping starts 20th of june of the asic, and for 2000 usd it got the speed of 16-17 1080 ti, are you not worried that they will have alot of the hash before the fork?
As long as pools and exchanges follow the fork i guess it does not matter how much of the hash they got though?
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June 03, 2018, 09:46:02 PM
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I have Antminer Z9 mini..
Where can I mine Zencash with Asic?
and any other suggestion to mine z9 mini with?
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ZEN has a VERY PROFESSIONAL TEAM who knows what they're doing.  Even when it comes to a 51% attack - https://forum.z.cash/clicks/track?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.zencash.com%2Fzencash-statement-on-double-spend-attack%2F&post_id=119908&topic_id=27353

Does anyone think it's a coincidence ZEN is one of three coins now who vowed to fork away from ASIC's and receive a 51% attack not long after making an announcement to fork away from ASIC's?  The ONLY one I can think of who would have MOTIVE to perform such an attack would be BITMAIN CORPORATION.

BITMAIN is a plague to the industry who MUST be shunned by the community for gratifying itself at the expense of "community."

ANYONE who is pro-Bitmain is more than welcome to debate me on the subject of BITMAIN's private/secret mining in this open forum.  I'll PROVE to you with ZEC addresses on AntPool and simple math how someone [More than likely Bitmain] potentially has over 50% of the ZEC hash rate due to ASIC's.  Keep in mind, they can also mine privately in a private pool of their own.  Here's a video providing a couple of ZEC addresses on AntPool to show their revenue over a couple of days:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNg5yxlvvng  If you use a calculator to do the math to determine the potential hash rate required to mine the amount of ZEC, you will see what I mean.

I'm quite certain BITMAIN has been mining Equihash with their Z9 (not "mini") since summer of 2017.  I believe BITMAIN invested into R&D for the Z9 "mini" to sell to everyone else WHILE continuing to mine with their Z9 (not "mini").  The only reason BITMAIN recently mentioned they have a Z9 (not "mini") on twitter is because they probably felt the need to leak it in the event they want to sell them to the public if they think they will not see the revenue they had hoped for due to too many Equihash coins forking away from BITMAIN's ASIC's.

The tweet in the screenshot below is PROOF that BITMAIN has a Z9 (not "mini") and have more than likely been mining privately/secretly with it since summer of 2017.  I guarantee you if ZEC was to fork away from ASIC's, we would see a similar drop in hash rate as what we saw with MONERO hash rate when their fork was implemented.  https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-hashrate.html#1y

Make no mistake about it; ZEC will play a pivotal role in the future of GPU mining.  This is why it's so important for us to come together as a community NOW to have an honest (unbiased) discussion about what's best for the community.  Even if ZEC forks away from ASIC's, I REFUSE to provide ANY support and/or marketing for them in the future.  I even stopped providing technical analysis to followers on Trading View for ZEC.  

I'm thankful to VosKcoin on YouTube for talking about ZEN in one of his videos.  Once he stirred up my curiosity, I now see ZEN is a much better ecosystem who actually VALUES their community and recognizes the importance of working together as a community to promote the best crypto ecosystem for humanity in regards to decentralized currency, privacy, freedom of speech and freedom from tyranny.

Many new miners to the crypto space have not had experience mining with ASIC's over the years as some of us have.  Many have not had EXPERIENCE with Bitmain over the years as some of us have.  My experience with BITMAIN began with the S1.  I was DONE with them after receiving 42 x S7's in December, 2015; of which MOST were OBVIOUSLY USED.  I sold them in February, 2016 after mining with them for a while to make some money before selling them close to the same price as what I paid for them.  The S9 came out a month later after I sold them.  I began GPU mining in April, 2016.  


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June 04, 2018, 05:46:14 AM
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This 51% attack strongly emphasizes the need to fork off the Z9 Asics.

Guess Zen devs could not be bought over by Bitmain unlike Zooko of Zcash, unhappy, they probably started the attack as a warning.

(Complete speculation but it makes sense)
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June 04, 2018, 08:13:32 AM
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The higher hashrate the more secure,so we need the ascis which can provide higher hashrate,saying,more secure system as BITCOIN.
It is a hysterical disease for fearing advanced machine,are we the uncivilized man who use pen and paper to calculate HASH? Ridiculous.
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June 04, 2018, 08:20:58 AM
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This 51% attack strongly emphasizes the need to fork off the Z9 Asics.

Guess Zen devs could not be bought over by Bitmain unlike Zooko of Zcash, unhappy, they probably started the attack as a warning.

(Complete speculation but it makes sense)
"The Zen team will continue monitoring the network and conducting forensic analysis with the affected exchange. All information gathered will be provided to the appropriate authorities."

It is too early to point finger on Asic, we are investigating.

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June 04, 2018, 08:25:01 AM
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Thanks MedaR for explanation,
 I am currently 15 days under the full sync, after I get this wallet to 100% I will install Arizen and try to import keys to see the differences in these two wallets. Wink

Arizen is light wallet and there is no need for synchronization, once when it is started can be used almost instantly.
I have all those wallets in use, and Arizen is my favorite.  Wink

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June 04, 2018, 08:28:15 AM
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 #3077

Suprnova pool has a major big farm mining with an incredible hashrate, and two more "small" farms... so incredible that does not take to long to have 51% hashrate, in theory...

My guess finger is saying to me that new ASICS from Bitmain are beeing tested on Zencash right now...


This is infamous.... 16.720.549 Sol/s - half of Suprnova hashes... equivalent to about 2000 units of Z9 mini Bitmain ASICS.

https://ibb.co/hPfTv8

If we not get ride of this guys ZEN will be severely hurt...
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June 04, 2018, 08:29:55 AM
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They did not followed updates.

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First Hard Fork will occur in July to modify the protocol and allow the change in miner reward division to 10% supernodes, 10% securenodes, 10% treasury, 70% miners.
Second fork is planned minimum two months after the first one, and it will be focused on the extended transactions confirmation.

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ZenCash Statement On Potential Equihash Algorithm Change
https://blog.zencash.com/zencash-statement-on-potential-equihash-algorithm-change/

Thank you for the correction!
Here you can find latest informations, and if you are not sure always ask.
ZenCash discord is also very good place for getting information, consider joining.

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June 04, 2018, 08:33:46 AM
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I have Antminer Z9 mini..
Where can I mine Zencash with Asic?
and any other suggestion to mine z9 mini with?
No restrictions, hash is hash - > You can use it on every pool where you can mine this algo.

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June 04, 2018, 08:41:45 AM
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The higher hashrate the more secure,so we need the ascis which can provide higher hashrate,saying,more secure system as BITCOIN.
It is a hysterical disease for fearing advanced machine,are we the uncivilized man who use pen and paper to calculate HASH? Ridiculous.


You bought a few ASICS miners and do not want to lose your investment with forks, right?


For me ban all ASICS or i will look for another project.... unfortunatly....
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