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Author Topic: [ANN][CND] Cindicator - Hybrid Intelligence for Financial Markets - September 12  (Read 137104 times)
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September 10, 2017, 09:54:42 PM
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It looks like it's not easy to get into the whitelist. I tried to enter to the whitelist, but i couldn't get approval. Sad

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September 10, 2017, 11:11:49 PM
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It looks like it's not easy to get into the whitelist. I tried to enter to the whitelist, but i couldn't get approval. Sad

Tiers 3 and 4 haven't been announced yet. If you applied for the whitelist, please, be patient
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September 10, 2017, 11:23:45 PM
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I believe that it will reach its hard cap (15,000,000$) within a few hours. My interest in this project is increasing exponentially!
Also, they're going to accept BTC, ETH, ETC and LTC. This is very good, some ICOs only accept ETH. I think it's much better than Numerai.

will ico be finished in such a fast time?  Shocked
I became interested in investing in this project, it seems that a project has been confirmed ico sales will be successful  Grin
waiting for ico opening in few days

Guys there will be no ICO, only White list stage. In White List stage we will accept only ETH through smart contract

WHEN TIER 3 AND 4 COMMING OUT???

We are planning to announce Tier 3 in less that 24 hours
Tier 4 - next week probably

How do you mean next week? Isn't the ICO on 12th? So tier 4 should be announced tomorrow or at least on tuesday

There will be no ICO on 12th guys. All tokens will be sold through White List.
Check this link please: https://medium.com/@Cindicator/quality-not-quantity-our-idea-of-token-sale-process-383f9c404eb6

So you already know that you'll be sold through the White List. Why all those ads? They are everywhere. People wanna join!

The ads have always been everywhere. and application for the whitelist is still open. They still have a chance
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September 10, 2017, 11:27:20 PM
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It looks like it's not easy to get into the whitelist. I tried to enter to the whitelist, but i couldn't get approval. Sad

Well i've asked people in the community, total contribution is a crucial factor to get into first few tier as they will be investing more compare to others
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September 10, 2017, 11:30:10 PM
Last edit: September 11, 2017, 09:57:17 AM by Capoboss
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Let me tell you this, it all bullshit man.
Whitelist then ICO and now only whitelist and no ICO.
Extending the timeframe of the annoucements, manually selection of thousands or more applications for the whitelist.
closing slack, banning people from the telegram chat because they ask the same questions again
WTF are you guys serieus?? At first I wanted to invest in it but the more I see this kind of conduct the more I get the feeling you guys dont know what you are doing.
Totally unprofessional. Salute
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September 10, 2017, 11:36:39 PM
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would be good if you could send out the exact contribution dates asap. thx
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September 10, 2017, 11:43:52 PM
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I am really excited to tier 4. Maybe I will be there
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September 10, 2017, 11:46:28 PM
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.

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September 11, 2017, 03:14:35 AM
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Any news about tier 3?

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September 11, 2017, 05:54:29 AM
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I gotta say, this sure looks like an awesome project  Grin

I do, however, have 6 general questions that I'd just love to hear explained as I have a hard time grasping them:

1. Having done a little bit of browsing I couldn't really find any clear info on how you run your operational costs: I'm assuming that you have offices to rent, servers to upkeep and wages to pay (and money-counting machines for all that sweet ICO dosh xoxo) - how much does it all cost on a monthly basis anyway? Nor did I manage to see any sources of operational revenue - I just don't quite understand what and to whom you are going to sell (apart from the tokens in the initial offering). Also I don't think I quite get the part about your predictors remuneration - what and how are they getting paid? how many are getting paid?  Huh

2. What exactly do you need blockchain technology for? Wouldn't it all be easier to run normally without adding a new layer of tech? What part of the project is actually connected to the blockchain - what sort of info is stored on it, who runs the nodes, what is the blockchain consensus mechanism?  Undecided

3. How are you going to sell your products to institutional investors? Didn't the reject your early offers? How did the introduction of CND tokens make it more appealing to them, especially once the forecaster fees kick in?

4. To my understanding, Cindicator wants to play a major role in both the CND token exchange as well as being a major CND holder. Key CND project entities also rely on CND for remuneration - this certainly lends pressure for the CND token to go upwards, yet the customers might not feel like it's a good thing. How is the CND market going to find a stable equilibrium?

5. Your Russian WP has a pretty weird clause on p. 13 where it says that you reserve the right to change any and all clauses of the present agreement... Is that a typo? As an investor, I would be bummed about changes to the tokens I bought after already having bought them.  Cry

6. I believe it was mentioned somewhere that you set up a company in Gibraltar for the actual fundraising part. How is the Cindicator project related to the Gibraltar company: are you in any way officially affiliated? Are the project's key figures in any way affiliated with the company? How are the the token funds declared in their legal space and to what tax authorities does the Gibraltar company report to?

Very excited to be a part of this!




1. Can't disclose it now, but we are a frugal startup

2. Cindicator needs blockchain to create its own ecosystem.
      - Cindicator tokens are ERC-20 compatible tokens distributed on the Ethereum blockchain (edited)
      - We are engaged in the analysis of blockchain and crypto markets.
      - Our tokens are infrastructure tokens that create the internal economy of our ecosystem.
Decentralization make relationship between forecasters, traders and data scientists more transparent. It also makes it possible for us to create the type of distribution system which is impossible for centralized systems

3. We will sell our products through CND tokens. Client should buy tokens on exchanges to pay for out products.

4. >as well as being a major CND holder    - why you think so?
    >yet the customers might not feel like it's a good thing.  - sure if the prices in CND will be too high - we will adjust them to boost the demand

5. That's not the typo - crypto market isn't stable for now (check China news this and last week for example) - that's why we can't garantee anything

6. THE SALE OF CND TOKENS CONSTITUTES THE SALE OF A LEGAL SOFTWARE PRODUCT UNDER GIBRALTAR LAW. THIS PRODUCT SALE IS CONDUCTED BY CINDICATOR LTD (GIBRALTAR), A GIBRALTAR COMPANY, OPERATING UNDER GIBRALTAR LAW.


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September 11, 2017, 06:18:23 AM
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That is nice project just read the whitepaper so I think this project has good chance to hit the hard cap. I will follow this thread to keep me updated with more news and further progress about this project.
It's a great project, and it's a very definite moment, and I'll learn what this project looks like ...
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September 11, 2017, 07:19:45 AM
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That is nice project just read the whitepaper so I think this project has good chance to hit the hard cap. I will follow this thread to keep me updated with more news and further progress about this project.
It's a great project, and it's a very definite moment, and I'll learn what this project looks like ...

Thanks!

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September 11, 2017, 08:29:39 AM
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction
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September 11, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
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September 11, 2017, 10:07:50 AM
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There are currently some more artificial intelligence based trading/predicting platform under development. Cindicator has different approach with application available to understand how the collective intelligence will be used to become successful investor. I hope there will be enough time to make sure participation as this is going to be sold out in minutes tomorrow.


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September 11, 2017, 10:42:41 AM
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the first ICO you have to prepare real hard by studying the WP in order to have a chance to be elected.
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September 11, 2017, 11:22:24 AM
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?
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September 11, 2017, 11:29:07 AM
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I like this project, the overall publicity interface are very happy, simple and generous, the United States is very amazing
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September 11, 2017, 11:37:19 AM
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?

basically you talking about centralized systems where they can track, locate and prosecute you.

I think most people forget what decentralization means.
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1. Can't disclose it now, but we are a frugal startup

2. Cindicator needs blockchain to create its own ecosystem.
      - Cindicator tokens are ERC-20 compatible tokens distributed on the Ethereum blockchain (edited)
      - We are engaged in the analysis of blockchain and crypto markets.
      - Our tokens are infrastructure tokens that create the internal economy of our ecosystem.
Decentralization make relationship between forecasters, traders and data scientists more transparent. It also makes it possible for us to create the type of distribution system which is impossible for centralized systems

3. We will sell our products through CND tokens. Client should buy tokens on exchanges to pay for out products.

4. >as well as being a major CND holder    - why you think so?
    >yet the customers might not feel like it's a good thing.  - sure if the prices in CND will be too high - we will adjust them to boost the demand

5. That's not the typo - crypto market isn't stable for now (check China news this and last week for example) - that's why we can't garantee anything

6. THE SALE OF CND TOKENS CONSTITUTES THE SALE OF A LEGAL SOFTWARE PRODUCT UNDER GIBRALTAR LAW. THIS PRODUCT SALE IS CONDUCTED BY CINDICATOR LTD (GIBRALTAR), A GIBRALTAR COMPANY, OPERATING UNDER GIBRALTAR LAW.


BTW, useful links:
http://dl4.joxi.net/drive/2017/09/11/0025/1916/1677180/80/4ae447051d.jpg
 

1. I cherish your frugality, yet as an investor I can't help but wonder how are you planning on maintaining the growth and operation of your platform in the future?  Aren't there any numbers one could look at to make sure that the forecaster awards run smoothly? Especially since you are refusing to disclose your potential revenue sources.

2. I think you might have misinterpreted my question: I get that your tokens run on a blockchain, as do I get that analysing different blockchains is a major selling point of your platform. What actually interests me is what does your project use the blockchain technology for (other than to sell tokens)? What info do you store on the blockchain, other than transaction history of your tokens? How is a non-blockchain business that deals in forecasting for fiat different from you essentially?

3. I wasn't asking what currency you would charge them with  Tongue. In the past you claimed that previously your clients didn't want to employ your services without exclusive rights to the platform. How does pitching the same platform, but with CND tokens instead of fiat as payment change their minds?

4. >why you think so?
> Cindicator_WhitePaper_en.pdf (thanks for the link!  Wink ) > 3.2.2 CND token distribution... 20% - for the Cindicator company (+vesting).

> we will adjust them to boost demand - by what means exactly?

5. The cryptocurrency market is indeed volatile - not the least due to the fickle nature of whitepapers out there, that allow copmanies to essentially regard investor's cash as charitable contributions   Shocked

6. I am quite familiar with who is performing the token sale, thank you. The actual question was: how is the operating company officially affiliated with the company performing the token sale? Do they have the same owners/directors? Is the token issuer in any way liable for the actual performance of the product? Is the operating company liable for the actions of the token issuer? If market volatility from p.5 takes place, who is accountable for changing the rules?

See you at Stage 4!  Smiley
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