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August 12, 2017, 01:09:32 AM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....
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August 12, 2017, 01:15:53 AM
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32-bit binaries always a little faster because memory pointers are shorter. Many other reasons exist, but as long as you don't need 4GB+ memory for your application, there is no point in building 64-bit monsters.

I was surprise to know about 32bit is faster. I always thought 64bit is faster than 32bit. Thanks for update.



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August 12, 2017, 01:36:38 AM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Simple?

There is the difficult that changes every block, there is the luck in prop, pplns pools.

Traking for days means nothing. Sigt was a totally diferent thing 2 days ago.

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August 12, 2017, 03:11:50 AM
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32-bit binaries always a little faster because memory pointers are shorter. Many other reasons exist, but as long as you don't need 4GB+ memory for your application, there is no point in building 64-bit monsters.

I was surprise to know about 32bit is faster. I always thought 64bit is faster than 32bit. Thanks for update.

Generally it is faster to deal with smaller memory structures, smaller pointers etc. More of it will fit into L0/1/2/3 cache and CPU will be happier.

There are cases when you need to do a ton of 64-bit math and leverage 64-bit CPU registers, or if your dataset does not fit into 4G address space like with large databases or Excel spreadsheets.

There is a reason Visual Studio 2017 is still a 32-bit application...
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August 12, 2017, 03:57:04 AM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Simple?

There is the difficult that changes every block, there is the luck in prop, pplns pools.

Traking for days means nothing. Sigt was a totally diferent thing 2 days ago.



First off Suprnova is pplns and not prop. Luck means nothing over extended period of time. The number of shares has a bigger impact.  
While each block varies usually from 10-350 seconds; if you track for 6 hours that 63 blocks min (pretty accurate for an average yield).
 
Every person knows the block reward halved after phase 1; but how many remember the yield before and after it?
Just because reward halved doesnt mean you make 50% less.

Sigt was totally different 12-24 hours after it launched and is less so after phase 1.
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August 12, 2017, 05:39:55 AM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Agreed.  I have been using spmod for the past few days.  I switched to krnlx overnight because the reported hashrate was a little higher.  Imagine my surprise when I got up in the morning and saw that suprnova reported my hashrate at about 30% of what the miner showed.  The earned coins also reflected this.  Switched back to spmod which fixed everything.
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August 12, 2017, 08:32:30 AM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Agreed.  I have been using spmod for the past few days.  I switched to krnlx overnight because the reported hashrate was a little higher.  Imagine my surprise when I got up in the morning and saw that suprnova reported my hashrate at about 30% of what the miner showed.  The earned coins also reflected this.  Switched back to spmod which fixed everything.

a lot of newbee accounts praising SPmod like they know everything.. hmm... What to make of it. Unless you test both miners on the same pool for at least a day simultaneously there is no way to compare results

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August 12, 2017, 08:37:55 AM
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Asus Dual OC +500 memory +150 core

I only tested the 32 bit version on Win x64

I use linux but u can get the same a i think, i use 8 X ASUS 8OG

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u grab 30.3/30.8 mh/s

Woov I m getting 30+ Mh/s with +140 core -1000 memory on windows x64

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Thankyou, no virus Smiley, faster for me on my Asus/Gigabytes 1060 6gb 19.5mh vs 18.5(SP3 or 5) @ 70 pl, +150c, -500m

248kh/w

same for me with the rednoW version

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But is there any future for this coin, it would definitly be geat to have some more coins to mine, new algo so what?  what do you guys think..? wort hodling?
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spmod 6 is faster now?
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August 12, 2017, 11:33:37 AM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....


Eh, mining 6 hours with 140% pool luck and mining another 6 hours with 100% luck can really make a difference.
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August 12, 2017, 07:41:20 PM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Agreed.  I have been using spmod for the past few days.  I switched to krnlx overnight because the reported hashrate was a little higher.  Imagine my surprise when I got up in the morning and saw that suprnova reported my hashrate at about 30% of what the miner showed.  The earned coins also reflected this.  Switched back to spmod which fixed everything.

a lot of newbee accounts praising SPmod like they know everything.. hmm... What to make of it. Unless you test both miners on the same pool for at least a day simultaneously there is no way to compare results

I'm not praising SPmod, I'm just stating the facts.  I've mined a lot of different algos with a lot of different miners through Suprnova.  My reported hashrate and what suprnova reports are always within 20% of each other.  In this case krnlx reports I'm getting 116 mh/s.  Suprnova reports 33.  That's quite a large difference.
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Simple?

There is the difficult that changes every block, there is the luck in prop, pplns pools.

Traking for days means nothing. Sigt was a totally diferent thing 2 days ago.



First off Suprnova is pplns and not prop. Luck means nothing over extended period of time. The number of shares has a bigger impact.  
While each block varies usually from 10-350 seconds; if you track for 6 hours that 63 blocks min (pretty accurate for an average yield).
 
Every person knows the block reward halved after phase 1; but how many remember the yield before and after it?
Just because reward halved doesnt mean you make 50% less.

Sigt was totally different 12-24 hours after it launched and is less so after phase 1.


completely wrong bigjee ...

local hash - pool hash - and especially nethash play a massive part in all your so called calculations ...

this is why your logic is completely skewed an inaccurate ...

you would be absolutely correct IF your local hashrate AND the pool hash AND the nethash did not change at all ... it does - every 30seconds ... at times - the nethash fluctuates from 1terahash to 3.7terahash and back in a matter of hours ... this is a heavy displacement in diff and a massive difference in mining ...

your 6hour transient time frame means nothing in such circumstances - and these circumstances are a highly regular occurrence in signatum ... in fact almost all coins ...

if you want a better way to get more accurate figures - then you need to get out of the time frame mentality - and actually get into the mathematics of the code ... not by some arbitrary way of guessing the figures ...

the moment i post this from when i started - the diff and hashrate all changed dramatically again ... from 1.4th to 1.6th ...

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August 12, 2017, 08:33:30 PM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Agreed.  I have been using spmod for the past few days.  I switched to krnlx overnight because the reported hashrate was a little higher.  Imagine my surprise when I got up in the morning and saw that suprnova reported my hashrate at about 30% of what the miner showed.  The earned coins also reflected this.  Switched back to spmod which fixed everything.

a lot of newbee accounts praising SPmod like they know everything.. hmm... What to make of it. Unless you test both miners on the same pool for at least a day simultaneously there is no way to compare results

I'm not praising SPmod, I'm just stating the facts.  I've mined a lot of different algos with a lot of different miners through Suprnova.  My reported hashrate and what suprnova reports are always within 20% of each other.  In this case krnlx reports I'm getting 116 mh/s.  Suprnova reports 33.  That's quite a large difference.

I do have the tools and two exact the same mining rigs (both 6x1070) to do a comparison between skunk and the spmod miner.

What I will do:

  • tune both rigs so they have exact the same hashrate using skunk ccminer (done already)
  • connect them to the same pool and set the share difficulty static at 1.0 so I get enough shares (this helps a bit to filter the "luck" factor on a longer run)
  • Count the number of shares on both rigs + monitor the hashrate for let's say 24 hours.

I can do this with the leaked spmod 5 , since I don't have spmod 6.
If one wants me to do the comparison with spmod 6, please PM me a link.

edit: as we speak I run this comparison with spmod 5 now vs the last compiled skunk miner

edit 2: way to early to draw conclusions as it's only running for half an hour, but this is the result so far



ooh before asking why my hashrate is so low: my cards run heavily undervolted / volt modded. They draw only 75 watt each from the wall at these hashrates. This keeps my room a bit cool and saves me some power costs.
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August 12, 2017, 09:25:24 PM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Agreed.  I have been using spmod for the past few days.  I switched to krnlx overnight because the reported hashrate was a little higher.  Imagine my surprise when I got up in the morning and saw that suprnova reported my hashrate at about 30% of what the miner showed.  The earned coins also reflected this.  Switched back to spmod which fixed everything.

a lot of newbee accounts praising SPmod like they know everything.. hmm... What to make of it. Unless you test both miners on the same pool for at least a day simultaneously there is no way to compare results

I'm not praising SPmod, I'm just stating the facts.  I've mined a lot of different algos with a lot of different miners through Suprnova.  My reported hashrate and what suprnova reports are always within 20% of each other.  In this case krnlx reports I'm getting 116 mh/s.  Suprnova reports 33.  That's quite a large difference.

I do have the tools and two exact the same mining rigs (both 6x1070) to do a comparison between skunk and the spmod miner.

What I will do:

  • tune both rigs so they have exact the same hashrate using skunk ccminer (done already)
  • connect them to the same pool and set the share difficulty static at 1.0 so I get enough shares (this helps a bit to filter the "luck" factor on a longer run)
  • Count the number of shares on both rigs + monitor the hashrate for let's say 24 hours.

I can do this with the leaked spmod 5 , since I don't have spmod 6.
If one wants me to do the comparison with spmod 6, please PM me a link.

edit: as we speak I run this comparison with spmod 5 now vs the last compiled skunk miner

edit 2: way to early to draw conclusions as it's only running for half an hour, but this is the result so far



Sound good to do this ... i feel like krnlx fake mh/s ... but i am maybe wrong
I actually dont have SP mod (i am not a donor) but if i need i go back to palgin mod ... No sense to get 20 more mh/s on paper to get less ...

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August 12, 2017, 09:31:04 PM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Agreed.  I have been using spmod for the past few days.  I switched to krnlx overnight because the reported hashrate was a little higher.  Imagine my surprise when I got up in the morning and saw that suprnova reported my hashrate at about 30% of what the miner showed.  The earned coins also reflected this.  Switched back to spmod which fixed everything.

a lot of newbee accounts praising SPmod like they know everything.. hmm... What to make of it. Unless you test both miners on the same pool for at least a day simultaneously there is no way to compare results

Dont take my word for it; try it out yourself.
i just posted so ppl can learn themselves rather than be sheep.

So sick of this newbie account banter btw. I guess all senior members post gospel 24/7
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August 12, 2017, 09:40:55 PM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Simple?

There is the difficult that changes every block, there is the luck in prop, pplns pools.

Traking for days means nothing. Sigt was a totally diferent thing 2 days ago.



First off Suprnova is pplns and not prop. Luck means nothing over extended period of time. The number of shares has a bigger impact.  
While each block varies usually from 10-350 seconds; if you track for 6 hours that 63 blocks min (pretty accurate for an average yield).
 
Every person knows the block reward halved after phase 1; but how many remember the yield before and after it?
Just because reward halved doesnt mean you make 50% less.

Sigt was totally different 12-24 hours after it launched and is less so after phase 1.


completely wrong bigjee ...

local hash - pool hash - and especially nethash play a massive part in all your so called calculations ...

this is why your logic is completely skewed an inaccurate ...

you would be absolutely correct IF your local hashrate AND the pool hash AND the nethash did not change at all ... it does - every 30seconds ... at times - the nethash fluctuates from 1terahash to 3.7terahash and back in a matter of hours ... this is a heavy displacement in diff and a massive difference in mining ...

your 6hour transient time frame means nothing in such circumstances - and these circumstances are a highly regular occurrence in signatum ... in fact almost all coins ...

if you want a better way to get more accurate figures - then you need to get out of the time frame mentality - and actually get into the mathematics of the code ... not by some arbitrary way of guessing the figures ...

the moment i post this from when i started - the diff and hashrate all changed dramatically again ... from 1.4th to 1.6th ...

#crysx

While I agree my method of calculation isnt fool proof you have to understand that the average miner wont be able to read code (I certianly dont).  
I definitely understand that the hashrate varies but im looking for a lay mans point of view for calculating yield.
Keep in mind im not looking for exact figure but an estimate. You mention variable aspects of the pool and whiel true it hasnt fluctuated as much in the past 24 hours (for suprnova). Again Im looking for rough estimate.

Im not supporting developers or taking sides; just pointing out that the hashrate reported by the krnlx isnt exactly what it is. My 6 hour interval was just an example and i mentioned the longer the better....

FYI I am using your miner also (I use time frame) as a measure of profitability.

If so have some material I can read Im all ears or eyes so to speak. But again others are free to check for themselves.
I only know what is consistent for my rig and setup.
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August 12, 2017, 09:49:24 PM
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Simple calculation:

1. Start mining with krnlx or sp mod and note the time and number of SIGT.

2. After 6 hours (the longer the better) come back and see how many SIGT have been mined.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 with other miner.

4. Compare # of Sigt mined; the higher # is the better miner.

Ive been tracking mine for days now. Im pretty confident krnlx with suprnova sucks balls. At least for my setup. (Win 7 64 bit, 1060x3, 1070 x4)

Just because it shines doesnt mean its gold as the saying goes....

Agreed.  I have been using spmod for the past few days.  I switched to krnlx overnight because the reported hashrate was a little higher.  Imagine my surprise when I got up in the morning and saw that suprnova reported my hashrate at about 30% of what the miner showed.  The earned coins also reflected this.  Switched back to spmod which fixed everything.

a lot of newbee accounts praising SPmod like they know everything.. hmm... What to make of it. Unless you test both miners on the same pool for at least a day simultaneously there is no way to compare results

I'm not praising SPmod, I'm just stating the facts.  I've mined a lot of different algos with a lot of different miners through Suprnova.  My reported hashrate and what suprnova reports are always within 20% of each other.  In this case krnlx reports I'm getting 116 mh/s.  Suprnova reports 33.  That's quite a large difference.

I do have the tools and two exact the same mining rigs (both 6x1070) to do a comparison between skunk and the spmod miner.

What I will do:

  • tune both rigs so they have exact the same hashrate using skunk ccminer (done already)
  • connect them to the same pool and set the share difficulty static at 1.0 so I get enough shares (this helps a bit to filter the "luck" factor on a longer run)
  • Count the number of shares on both rigs + monitor the hashrate for let's say 24 hours.

I can do this with the leaked spmod 5 , since I don't have spmod 6.
If one wants me to do the comparison with spmod 6, please PM me a link.

edit: as we speak I run this comparison with spmod 5 now vs the last compiled skunk miner

edit 2: way to early to draw conclusions as it's only running for half an hour, but this is the result so far



ooh before asking why my hashrate is so low: my cards run heavily undervolted / volt modded. They draw only 75 watt each from the wall at these hashrates. This keeps my room a bit cool and saves me some power costs.

THANK YOU!!
Your experiment will help us out immensely.
I await the results for 24 hours. Perhaps 48 hours for repeatability sake so it settles the doubt once and for all.

Again thanks for setting this up!

Edit: By skunk miner which mod do you mean. Is it the krnlx? Just wanted to confirm.
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August 12, 2017, 09:56:23 PM
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so what I did:

  • 2 identical rigs (6x undervolted gtx 1070 both at same clocks / hashrate when using an identical miner)
  • both running on the same pool with static diff set to 1.0
  • started miners exactly at the same time
  • stopped the miners after one hour

apparently the skunk miner seems to work a bit better on my rig, but this comparison is more for checking the reported hashrate vs accepted shares. Since people feel the reported hashrate is not fair on the skunk miner.
Actually this test is running for a too short time to draw conclusions, but it gives an idea already. Next update will be after 12 hours of mining

I will do more testing. I will test some more miners on request. Please PM me when you want me to test a private miner (ie. spmod 6 or something else) or give me a link to a public miner if you want it to be tested.




my mistake: skunk = krnlx miner Smiley I will update the graphics on the next update
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