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May 19, 2013, 05:09:13 PM |
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Confirming the payout the remainder of the 200 BTC cashout to Bitcoinm. Congratulations, again. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) (And for anyone reading this & didn't read the prior pages: I did offer to pay it out straight away but Bitcoinm was adamant that I have a bit more time incase other large bettors come). Oh and I had to unwillingly take a 10 BTC "tip".. Didn't have much choice since he kept sending it back haha. So thanks for that, I guess. Confirmed. To be honest, I never wanted to cash out that much. I got to 10 bitcoins and realised that the site being so new, I might not get paid out. So I tried to lose actually, I was going to keep betting until I got to 5 Bitcoins, as I belived it was more rational. Before I knew it, I was at 50 BTC, then 100 BTC and then the 200 mark. At that point I said stuff it, I only started with 2 BTC so I didn't have much to loose if Stunna chucked a runna (haha..). You can all see how it ended up though, so great news for me. Thanks a lot, and there's no doubt I'll be back betting again in the very near future! Lmfao so that's why you had so much balls! you were TRYING to lose. This is a bloody good story.
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May 19, 2013, 05:12:40 PM |
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Holy crap I love this game, I currently have a huge profit already (0.1) EDIT : And lost. That sucked. Great game!
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Zaih
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May 19, 2013, 05:22:06 PM |
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And Stunna's luck continues ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F2WJLh.jpg&t=665&c=4dtyQkcFpQngOw) Have you checked out your RNG yet dude, you just seem to keep losing money no matter what lol
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Boelens
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May 19, 2013, 05:23:40 PM |
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And Stunna's luck continues ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F2WJLh.jpg&t=665&c=4dtyQkcFpQngOw) Have you checked out your RNG yet dude, you just seem to keep losing money no matter what lol Holy shi- that's amazing. I wish I had big ones to roll with, but what is RNG?
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Zaih
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May 19, 2013, 05:29:03 PM |
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And Stunna's luck continues ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F2WJLh.jpg&t=665&c=4dtyQkcFpQngOw) Have you checked out your RNG yet dude, you just seem to keep losing money no matter what lol Holy shi- that's amazing. I wish I had big ones to roll with, but what is RNG? Random Number Generator. Just saying cause it seems Stunna is down over 250 BTC by now. Heaps over 10 - 30 BTC cashouts today. Maybe the RNG is sided towards the bettor, I'm not sure. KingOfSports was talking about it earlier in the thread I believe.
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May 19, 2013, 07:04:40 PM |
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Anybody know how much you need to cash out?
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Stunna (OP)
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May 19, 2013, 07:20:18 PM |
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Anybody know how much you need to cash out?
Anything over .0005 as that is the transaction fee.
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Boelens
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May 19, 2013, 08:14:54 PM |
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Uh, I think I found a bug. I logged on to start betting a bit, with the 0.1 in my account, suddenly I see 0.000 balance and a 0.0995 BTC payment incoming, all I did was login, I didn't click any cashout button.
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Stunna (OP)
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May 19, 2013, 08:22:04 PM |
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Uh, I think I found a bug. I logged on to start betting a bit, with the 0.1 in my account, suddenly I see 0.000 balance and a 0.0995 BTC payment incoming, all I did was login, I didn't click any cashout button.
Often a session will get terminated for a variety of reasons, the bitcoins will find their way back to your wallet however. Termination is done automatically, generally to return bitcoins to people who have forgotten to cashout etc. If you logged into your address from a different IP that could also be a reason for termination.
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Boelens
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May 19, 2013, 08:23:51 PM |
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Uh, I think I found a bug. I logged on to start betting a bit, with the 0.1 in my account, suddenly I see 0.000 balance and a 0.0995 BTC payment incoming, all I did was login, I didn't click any cashout button.
Often a session will get terminated for a variety of reasons, the bitcoins will find their way back to your wallet however. Termination is done automatically, generally to return bitcoins to people who have forgotten to cashout etc. If you logged into your address from a different IP that could also be a reason for termination. Oh, that sucks but is at the same time very good. Is there a way to turn this off?
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May 19, 2013, 08:28:14 PM |
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Before I knew it, I was at 50 BTC, then 100 BTC and then the 200 mark.
What was your biggest single win? I understand the max bet was reduced after you won a bunch, right?
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May 19, 2013, 08:31:00 PM Last edit: September 01, 2014, 02:06:48 AM by Stunna |
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Before I knew it, I was at 50 BTC, then 100 BTC and then the 200 mark.
What was your biggest single win? I understand the max bet was reduced after you won a bunch, right? Our max bet payout was 5 when he was betting and is currently still at 5. That's what made this so surprising. Also the changes you suggested will be implemented within 24 hours, our main developer had the weekend off.
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May 19, 2013, 08:40:43 PM |
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Often a session will get terminated for a variety of reasons, the bitcoins will find their way back to your wallet however. Termination is done automatically, generally to return bitcoins to people who have forgotten to cashout etc. If you logged into your address from a different IP that could also be a reason for termination.
Oh, that sucks but is at the same time very good. Is there a way to turn this off? Also, what happens if I'm playing with just the 0.0001 starting bonus, play it up to say 0.0003 and then get disconnected from my ISP and my IP address changes? The balance is too small to get cashed out, so does it stay in my account for when I next log in? I think in general it would be good to let players set a password to protect their account if they want to, and then don't auto-cashout password protected accounts immediately. Maybe if an account isn't logged in to for a week or two then auto-cashout, but doing it every time the IP address changes is too much I think. Our max bet payout was 5 when he was betting and is currently still at 5. That's what made this so surprising.
I think it's good to have a max payout instead of a max bet. But did you consider instead allowing a max profit per bet? So the player is allowed to profit by 5 BTC per bet. Then on the 2% bet they can bet 490 BTC to win 495 BTC (profit = 5 BTC). I think Mr. Kelly would approve. Also the changes you suggested will be implemented within 24 hours, our main developer had the weekend off.
I wish I got the weekend off. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'm considering making a Chrome plugin that watches as you play provably fair games and checks the hashes for you. I think it would add value to players who don't know how to check the hashes for themselves, or can't be bothered to. And having it developed by a third party rather than the house itself adds weight to its verification of your fairness too I think.
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May 19, 2013, 09:27:02 PM |
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This Gambling is SO cool made 1 BTC out of 0.09 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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May 19, 2013, 09:36:39 PM Last edit: May 19, 2013, 10:47:24 PM by dooglus |
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I found a display bug. If you go to http://primedice.com/ and hit TAB about 6 times, you'll see the cursor appear in the 'enter your payout address' box. Then if you control-v to paste it, or just type any old junk, it will look ugly: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FajzdqMu.png&t=665&c=qKGLFJduHgDp-g) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FL448Cqd.png&t=665&c=2AFDyrEicgVTAw) It seems the 'enter address' text only disappears if you click on it, not 'onfocus'. If you use the 'placeholder="enter address"' attribute on the input element, this will just work. Edit: the same bug exists with the 'bet amount' field. Log in, click on 'bet amount'. Hit TAB, then Shift-TAB, and you get the same mess as above.
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May 19, 2013, 10:14:09 PM Last edit: May 19, 2013, 10:33:59 PM by dooglus |
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Another little bug: The logo image covers over the right half of the 'logout' button, so I can only log out if I click on the left half of the logout button. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvmpH29H.png&t=665&c=3wmE3Na2GTI3xQ) Edit: and another: If I click on the number in the rollover selector to make it editable, then type a new number and hit return, the return is treated as a click on the 'x2' button, and doubles my bet amount.
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May 19, 2013, 10:41:22 PM |
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Zaih what you are not seeing is the losing players and how much they lost. I personally was up 3 BTC and gave it all back + 2 more. So I'm down 2 BTC. I guarantee that Stunna is not down 250 BTC or even close to that. With the past day or so of bets honestly I think he/she has gotten back probably at least 10% of the 212 he/she lost right from the get go. I can see this being a very addicting game to some and thus many "degens" will lose a ton to this game no matter even if the expected value is +EV because of chasing losses.
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May 19, 2013, 10:46:11 PM |
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Zaih what you are not seeing is the losing players and how much they lost.
If I were a little more paranoid I'd say Zaih is dropping these ideas that the RNG is skewed in the player's favour just to plant the seed in people's heads that they might be able to take advantage and beat the house, encouraging more traffic to the site. But I'm not that paranoid, oh no ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 20, 2013, 12:31:02 AM |
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I think i may have found part of the problem, for certain people like me in certain countries, isps implement dynamic ips, so everytime my router restarts my ip changes, dunno if tt could be a problem with the auto cashing out
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May 20, 2013, 01:40:40 AM |
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Zaih what you are not seeing is the losing players and how much they lost. I personally was up 3 BTC and gave it all back + 2 more. So I'm down 2 BTC. I guarantee that Stunna is not down 250 BTC or even close to that. With the past day or so of bets honestly I think he/she has gotten back probably at least 10% of the 212 he/she lost right from the get go. I can see this being a very addicting game to some and thus many "degens" will lose a ton to this game no matter even if the expected value is +EV because of chasing losses.
Ah fair enough. Well that's good to hear. And yeh you aren't wrong on the addicting part. Zaih what you are not seeing is the losing players and how much they lost.
If I were a little more paranoid I'd say Zaih is dropping these ideas that the RNG is skewed in the player's favour just to plant the seed in people's heads that they might be able to take advantage and beat the house, encouraging more traffic to the site. But I'm not that paranoid, oh no ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I actually wasn't the one to bring this up, and how can one not wonder when a casino is down so much in such a small period of time. Sorry though, I see where your coming from.
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