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May 22, 2013, 01:39:25 PM |
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It would also allow new people to get a feel for the game before depositing.
You can bet 0 BTC and it will roll for free. Yes, of course, but it's a lot different using real BTC's then none. For getting a feeling on how the game works it isn't IMO since the game outcome is not depending on the bet-amount at all.
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May 22, 2013, 01:45:05 PM |
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It would also allow new people to get a feel for the game before depositing.
You can bet 0 BTC and it will roll for free. Yes, of course, but it's a lot different using real BTC's then none. For getting a feeling on how the game works it isn't IMO since the game outcome is not depending on the bet-amount at all. That's true, you do get a feel on how it works, but actually having a bet amount and seeing that you can win a lot (or lose a lot depending on your luck), you can get more motivated to deposit. Of course you can see your luck with 0 too, but I think if they're actually winning BTC's, it has a bigger impact in my opinion.
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May 22, 2013, 03:44:21 PM Last edit: May 22, 2013, 04:08:59 PM by akabmikua |
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Only one person is playing... Please re-enable the 0.0001 thingy!
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May 22, 2013, 05:04:50 PM |
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I doubt the botters would bother changing IP every roll (Considering they just mass bot the 99 multiplier), that would make it very slow indeed.
The poor bitcoinless masses of the orient are very thirsty for any free btc offered. If they're better off getting 0.0001 btc even without a bot, they will do. We definitely got a sense of that when running a free 0.001 BTC promotion for a year (well, it started with free 0.1 last May! ), with tight controls and manual issuance of the bonus. Over 2000 registered accounts, with considerable work and waiting involved from the client's side for each of them, and only a dozen ever deposited real btc to play. It remains unconcluded whether giving out any free money - no matter how small or large - is worthwhile when combined to other modes of promotion, or if it really just attracts just the freeriders.
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May 22, 2013, 05:09:07 PM |
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I doubt the botters would bother changing IP every roll (Considering they just mass bot the 99 multiplier), that would make it very slow indeed.
The poor bitcoinless masses of the orient are very thirsty for any free btc offered. If they're better off getting 0.0001 btc even without a bot, they will do. We definitely got a sense of that when running a free 0.001 BTC promotion for a year (well, it started with free 0.1 last May! ), with tight controls and manual issuance of the bonus. Over 2000 registered accounts, with considerable work and waiting involved from the client's side for each of them, and only a dozen ever deposited real btc to play. It remains unconcluded whether giving out any free money - no matter how small or large - is worthwhile when combined to other modes of promotion, or if it really just attracts just the freeriders. Yeh I can imagine. Publicity & traffic is good though no doubt. Regardless of whether they bet or not. And then again, 0.0001 is only like 1.2c, it isn't exactly that much considering PrimeDice loses 30,000x that like above without even caring (Well.. I think they don't care lol)
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May 22, 2013, 05:40:28 PM |
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Well my account "KoS" is back in the green I'm happy to say. I get REALLY bad streaks of losses though, my win to lose ratio is horrid. All I'm doing too is the over 50.5 standard bet. My stats:
Total bets: 150 Total wagered: 95.72860000 Total profit: 2.30713738 Highest bet: 2.50000000
Wins: 62 Losses: 88 Win/Loss ratio: 0.705
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May 22, 2013, 05:42:18 PM |
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May 22, 2013, 05:42:51 PM |
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Yeah but look at my win to loss ratio
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May 22, 2013, 05:45:15 PM |
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I want to enable the 0.0001 bonus very much. Hopefully within a week if we figure out a way to prevent bots from abusing it too much we'll be able to bring it back.
Personally I don't mind the bots, it is a minor issue in terms of financials. The issue is with the lag that comes with the them. This is a fairly minor issue and we're working on fixing it due to the strong demand for it.
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May 22, 2013, 05:45:21 PM |
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Yeah but look at my win to loss ratio Do you play bets other than 2x? Nvm I see you don't. How the hell did you profit with such a bad W/L ratio.
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May 22, 2013, 05:54:17 PM |
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Yeah I know Zaih lol I really don't know how. Literally its cause I'll say okay i want to win .05 more thats it....then proceed to martingale til I get it and literally like 5 or 6 losses before it hits. Don't know why that is. Seems like every time. My p-value for my sample for my win/loss is pretty small too
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May 22, 2013, 08:33:58 PM |
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Today I goto PrimeDice and saw that the Free BTC is gone. moderators pls remove Free BTC from topic.
The site still gives out free BTC. You just have to deposit first, and then roll a high enough number.
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May 22, 2013, 08:50:43 PM |
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I want to enable the 0.0001 bonus very much. Hopefully within a week if we figure out a way to prevent bots from abusing it too much we'll be able to bring it back.
Personally I don't mind the bots, it is a minor issue in terms of financials. The issue is with the lag that comes with the them. This is a fairly minor issue and we're working on fixing it due to the strong demand for it.
How about when someone enters a new payout address (ie. creates a new address) they have an option: * complete some kind of a CAPTCHA if they want the bonus 0.0001 BTC * just click though if they don't That way you slow the bots down a bit while they figure out how to solve the CAPTCHA automatically (there are services that will solve CAPTCHAs for you in seconds, but they charge per solution - hopefully more than 0.0001 BTC each) without inconveniencing your real customers who just want to deposit and play without bothering with stupid 'prove you're human' tests. Well my account "KoS" is back in the green I'm happy to say. I get REALLY bad streaks of losses though, my win to lose ratio is horrid. All I'm doing too is the over 50.5 standard bet.
Total wagered: 95.72860000 Total profit: 2.30713738
Wins: 62 Losses: 88
It's pretty impressive that you show a profit despite having such terrible luck! I guess you got lucky on the bets that mattered.
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May 22, 2013, 08:55:32 PM Last edit: May 22, 2013, 09:51:08 PM by KingOfSports |
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Got a couple more wins and a lil bit more profit.
Total bets: 170 Total wagered: 96.49530000 Total profit: 2.71063738 Highest bet: 2.50000000
Wins: 73 Losses: 97 Win/Loss ratio: 0.753
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May 22, 2013, 08:59:33 PM |
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Total wagered: 96.49530000
That's over $10,000 you bet.
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May 22, 2013, 09:23:31 PM |
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I wager approx $300 on average when betting on sports games its been a profitable hobby for me past couple years. These bets would def seem high for many people though, guess I'm just used to it. But yeah when you put in that in reference its pretty crazy Doog haha.
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May 22, 2013, 09:33:56 PM |
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I wager approx $300 on average when betting on sports games its been a profitable hobby for me past couple years. These bets would def seem high for many people though, guess I'm just used to it. But yeah when you put in that in reference its pretty crazy Doog haha. Well, if the odds are in your favour (as they can be if you're good at sports betting) then of course it makes sense to bet as much as you can. When the house clearly states that they have a 1% edge however I'm not so sure...
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May 22, 2013, 10:30:15 PM |
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Hey Stunna, I sent .5 to one of my previous deposit addresses, I assume it will be refunded to my wallet once confirmed? Also the server froze or something on my last bet, it was a .002 bet 50.5 2x one. Later it said I lost it so I'll take the huge .002 hit . I've since received my .664 payout from it auto-cashing out from freezing. Still waiting though on the .5 to be refunded, it currently has 1 confirmation. I sent .5 to an old address and .5 to the new address I meant to send to just for clairification, only was credited .5 total to my account. This is the address the .5 was sent to by accident: https://blockchain.info/address/1FggxhPYLfasVr7Wx1Kecwo83drq5LBV8RHey, You seem to have sent it to an old deposit address. I've sent the 0.5 to your payout address: 4b081a8367f2cbdf4be9bd941f78cf04f565c582c76129dd3fb7baf5f626720d Sorry for any inconvenience. Moment we've got rolls at an acceptable speed we'll be getting 1 deposit address per player sorted. By end of the week we are solve this problem permanently, until then we will be diligently sorting out these issues.
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May 22, 2013, 10:30:38 PM |
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I wager approx $300 on average when betting on sports games its been a profitable hobby for me past couple years. These bets would def seem high for many people though, guess I'm just used to it. But yeah when you put in that in reference its pretty crazy Doog haha. Well, if the odds are in your favour (as they can be if you're good at sports betting) then of course it makes sense to bet as much as you can. When the house clearly states that they have a 1% edge however I'm not so sure... I like to think as long as you keep your number of bets to a minimum (Ie, if you wanna gamble 10 coins, do it in as little # of bets as u can) and stay on the 2x multiplier with 50.50 roll over, that you'll never get affected my that 50 - 50.50 range I know I haven't rolled in it yet, and since I haven't, I liek to thing the house edge hasn't affected me... yet
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