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February 02, 2019, 11:15:59 AM
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Reported this issue numerous times but the problem still exists...

I don't get redirected to the secure https:// but to http:// I have to manually add the s, the dev already said they had a weird regional thing before with their SSL certificate.

I'm one of the few who pays attention to such things but I wonder how many people don't and my post on the forum got deleted and I already reported this 4 weeks ago to support.



It's quite severe in my opinion.  Undecided

Are you sure your computer isn't compromised, maybe check your hosts file and you might have a redirect to some other domain.

Because I've tried 3 different browsers, I manually put in "www.primedice.com" and each of them redirected to the correct HTTPS.

Normally its easy to tell when you are not on a HTTPS because there is a warning shown near the address that its not secure and most people would notice this.

Go download a Ubuntu live CD, and try and go to primedice from there and see where it takes you. Most likely it will redirect to the HTTPS meaning your OS might have malware or such.

I have Ubuntu and I have windows 10 on a separate laptop and use mint on another, primedice is aware of the issue because they had it before Josh one of the devs told this on primedice forum and I had several scans on PD's domain from my own web-hosting with proof it was not secure, I didn't save the screenshots since I did a fresh install of Ubuntu last night and the images are gone with it and primedice deleted the post containing those images on their forum. I might do some new tests if I can't retrieve the images on imgur but helping primedice with bugs and issues always kind of s**ks because they never reward people for reporting them, so doing scans and making new screenshots even writing these posts actually feels as a waste of time for me. But if someone is from the Netherlands, visits primedice for the first time enters his credentials makes a deposit and their money could be gone the moment it confirms on the site because there was no secure connection protecting the data and on primedice there is a high percentage of hacked accounts and money that's withdrawn from users without them knowing at the time and support always is so sure it is on the users end because my bug report got waven away initially as well and not directly forwarded to the devs, and if such leaks exists regional and/or incidental it is not good and how many of those hacked accounts is because of this?

There is no failure in redirecting on my side, once my browser knows the https address it redirects me there, so the failure is on primedice side and it's a regional thing as stated by the dev.

And you are so wrong that most people would see this, these are the same people uploading pictures of their drivers license to instagram or their passport to twitter and then wonder why their identity got stolen, they don't even know the urgency and the meaning of HTTPS let alone pay attention to it sites from banks and such give a warning to check the web address to be correct and that it shows HTTPS for a reason and a very good reason, it's like saying people's accounts are secure because everyone knows to never use a password twice while where I come from 2 out of 3 people use the same password not twice but everywhere.

Edit: My deleted post to primedice forum...  Undecided
https://forum.primedice.com/topic/34947-connection-to-pd-domain-is-not-secure-by-default/

Edit: Edit:
It has no use, primedice staff only cares for stake these days anyways.


Having the same issue, since 1 month and from same region EU

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February 02, 2019, 12:16:25 PM
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Reported this issue numerous times but the problem still exists...

I don't get redirected to the secure https:// but to http:// I have to manually add the s, the dev already said they had a weird regional thing before with their SSL certificate.

I'm one of the few who pays attention to such things but I wonder how many people don't and my post on the forum got deleted and I already reported this 4 weeks ago to support.

https://i.imgur.com/oVc0yzY.jpg

It's quite severe in my opinion.  Undecided

Are you sure your computer isn't compromised, maybe check your hosts file and you might have a redirect to some other domain.

Because I've tried 3 different browsers, I manually put in "www.primedice.com" and each of them redirected to the correct HTTPS.

Normally its easy to tell when you are not on a HTTPS because there is a warning shown near the address that its not secure and most people would notice this.

Go download a Ubuntu live CD, and try and go to primedice from there and see where it takes you. Most likely it will redirect to the HTTPS meaning your OS might have malware or such.

I have Ubuntu and I have windows 10 on a separate laptop and use mint on another, primedice is aware of the issue because they had it before Josh one of the devs told this on primedice forum and I had several scans on PD's domain from my own web-hosting with proof it was not secure, I didn't save the screenshots since I did a fresh install of Ubuntu last night and the images are gone with it and primedice deleted the post containing those images on their forum. I might do some new tests if I can't retrieve the images on imgur but helping primedice with bugs and issues always kind of s**ks because they never reward people for reporting them, so doing scans and making new screenshots even writing these posts actually feels as a waste of time for me. But if someone is from the Netherlands, visits primedice for the first time enters his credentials makes a deposit and their money could be gone the moment it confirms on the site because there was no secure connection protecting the data and on primedice there is a high percentage of hacked accounts and money that's withdrawn from users without them knowing at the time and support always is so sure it is on the users end because my bug report got waven away initially as well and not directly forwarded to the devs, and if such leaks exists regional and/or incidental it is not good and how many of those hacked accounts is because of this?

There is no failure in redirecting on my side, once my browser knows the https address it redirects me there, so the failure is on primedice side and it's a regional thing as stated by the dev.

And you are so wrong that most people would see this, these are the same people uploading pictures of their drivers license to instagram or their passport to twitter and then wonder why their identity got stolen, they don't even know the urgency and the meaning of HTTPS let alone pay attention to it sites from banks and such give a warning to check the web address to be correct and that it shows HTTPS for a reason and a very good reason, it's like saying people's accounts are secure because everyone knows to never use a password twice while where I come from 2 out of 3 people use the same password not twice but everywhere.

Edit: My deleted post to primedice forum...  Undecided
https://forum.primedice.com/topic/34947-connection-to-pd-domain-is-not-secure-by-default/

Edit: Edit:
It has no use, primedice staff only cares for stake these days anyways.


Having the same issue, since 1 month and from same region EU

Glad I'm not the only one.

I found the cached page of the forum if it's any use: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://forum.primedice.com/topic/34947-connection-to-pd-domain-is-not-secure-by-default/

The post with screenshots of the scans I posted to the forum, so a server located in the EU gives the same result and it seems to happen incidental.

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I ran 2 tests with 2 different domains, one with duckdice.io domain inserting http://duckdice.io I got this as a result:

https://i.imgur.com/soBAlbu.jpg

Primedice domain inserting http://primedice.com I got this first as a result:

https://i.imgur.com/0Q5U1v7.jpg

Second result for primedice domain:

https://i.imgur.com/k3CmVug.jpg

 

So there is some variation in redirecting...

Edit:

Well I did what I had to do, a few days ago told this to support, and now posted here, my tests prove it is not on my end but on PD's end.

Either they need to check the .htacces file, contact the webhost about the SSL certificate or start enabling 'HTTP Strict Transport Security'

 

Correct me if I'm wrong...


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February 02, 2019, 03:29:52 PM
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Go download Ubuntu cd live is not something as easy as it sounds Cheesy however I didn't know malware could make this kind of changes on our computers, I have heard changing the bitcoin address automatically so if you copy paste an address it will be someone else instead of yours however I didn't know this "forced phishing" or whatever its called could be done.

Changing the host files to redirect you to some other website could be dangerous at the hands of wrong people (why would good people do it anyway), for all the gamblers out there if you are going to deposit money to any casino, if this is a real problem, please double check your website name and make sure it is not something wonky before you deposit. However, I think this is just a common regional issue and not a big thing.
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February 02, 2019, 03:50:11 PM
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Go download Ubuntu cd live is not something as easy as it sounds Cheesy however I didn't know malware could make this kind of changes on our computers, I have heard changing the bitcoin address automatically so if you copy paste an address it will be someone else instead of yours however I didn't know this "forced phishing" or whatever its called could be done.

Changing the host files to redirect you to some other website could be dangerous at the hands of wrong people (why would good people do it anyway), for all the gamblers out there if you are going to deposit money to any casino, if this is a real problem, please double check your website name and make sure it is not something wonky before you deposit. However, I think this is just a common regional issue and not a big thing.

Installing Ubuntu is easier then it sounds, if I send my 6 year old nephew to the Dutch ubuntu page give him a usb drive and a laptop he has it on it in +/- a hour.

The changing of a bitcoin address when copying your own and pasting the phishers address was a chrome app that was sold off and the new owners thought scamming would be a great idea.

And I like some google search results or whatever of how common this is so it can be fixed.  Undecided
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February 02, 2019, 04:28:44 PM
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I guess there is a good effect when the price of bitcoin decreases, one of which is when you buy bitcoin to make a deposit to Primedice then the difference in money you spend will get a lot of bitcoin. I mean when the price of bitcoin is $10,000 then you will only get a small amount of bitcoin when you buy with $100, but when the price of bitcoin is $3400 then with $100 you can get a litlle more.
If we see from the price side maybe you're correct but for the gamblers there is no effect for the price that no matter amount of money is in their wallet but eventually they will still gamble however if you want to gamble with low amount of money i think find altcoins such as Doge because the price was very cheap and i used to gamble using my Doge when the price of bitcoin expensive
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February 02, 2019, 06:10:52 PM
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Rinz here with an amazing 990x win for over $31,000!

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February 02, 2019, 08:55:19 PM
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Rinz here with an amazing 990x win for over $31,000!

Do you ping like this all wins above 10k$?
Anyway congratulations to Rinz as it's a game changing win.

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February 03, 2019, 04:58:20 PM
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Rinz here with an amazing 990x win for over $31,000!

Do you ping like this all wins above 10k$?
Anyway congratulations to Rinz as it's a game changing win.
It is kind of both advertisement and encouragement. I mean they are advertising in a way that shows it is in fact possible to win this much and also try to say go out and test it out yourself and see if you can make it as well. I mean its not wrong there is always a chance to hit it big but what are the odds of hitting this big? Its very rare.

The threshold is so high that it doesn't really bother me honestly, I mean 30 thousand dollars and more really means that person probably made profit, sometimes people win like 1000 dollars and you say god knows how many times they had to bet to reach that level but when someone wins 30 thousand you know he must have profited unless he was super unlucky, hitting that much of an odd on that price probably means he got like over 20 thousand profit easily.
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February 03, 2019, 08:13:31 PM
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I feel one should be mindful when he’s betting this way he can control himself, and keep a track of his gambling.
No offense to both of you but gamblers who are here are sure know the things you are talking, most of us does not need an advise anymore, what we need
is an advise to win, if you can share some method to win then maybe that is most interesting than the advised mentioned.

No way to have a lower risk in gambling, other than controlling the total amount available for wagering/betting... Imho.

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February 03, 2019, 08:24:47 PM
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Rinz here with an amazing 990x win for over $31,000!

Do you ping like this all wins above 10k$?
Anyway congratulations to Rinz as it's a game changing win.

No, of course not m0gliE.

It's way to inform new Gamblers that it's possible to win those profits and withdraw them without any issue from Primedice Casino.
And to show everyone has the same chances to win something like those big profits.

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February 03, 2019, 09:58:35 PM
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No, of course not m0gliE.

It's way to inform new Gamblers that it's possible to win those profits and withdraw them without any issue from Primedice Casino.
And to show everyone has the same chances to win something like those big profits.

Ok.

Was asking because I think even if the site is really well made, it's lacking a bit of the... You know, informative page?
Live stats and all.
You got some but I guess it could be a bit deeper.

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February 04, 2019, 09:35:00 AM
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mOgliE is addressing a serious point that I have noticed in the past, but didn't want to comment on.

These images (which I see on twitter every few days as well) makes it look like it's really common for gamblers t owin huge amounts of money. In the description, it often says stuff like 'this guys showed us how to turn X amount of money into Y amount of money, which is often not true since most gamblers need to make a huge amount of bets before they even hit that big multiplier.

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February 04, 2019, 09:47:24 AM
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mOgliE is addressing a serious point that I have noticed in the past, but didn't want to comment on.

These images (which I see on twitter every few days as well) makes it look like it's really common for gamblers t owin huge amounts of money. In the description, it often says stuff like 'this guys showed us how to turn X amount of money into Y amount of money, which is often not true since most gamblers need to make a huge amount of bets before they even hit that big multiplier.


Promotional as it is, Primedice or most of those casino house who gave this information are doing their best to attract players to use the house and take the chance of winning huge amounts, we do know that facts remains that inside gamblers mindset challenging his luck also appears, trying to build different strategy and allow fate to dictate whether they'll gonna hit the big profits.

All about good advertisement to attract attentions and build positive impressions, that's another unique way to gain more visitors and players inside.
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February 04, 2019, 10:34:31 AM
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mOgliE is addressing a serious point that I have noticed in the past, but didn't want to comment on.

What? Oo

Hmm... No... I was merelly asking for a bit more details if they have some. I just happen to like the data pages you can get on gambling sites that's all. That was merely a small suggestion as all this data is already available for Primedice so putting them in a table shouldn't be lots of work and I'm sure i'm not the only one who would appreciate it.

That's all. There is nothing more, I'm not adressing any issue Oo

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February 04, 2019, 08:53:06 PM
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About the https thing, don't feel offended about the deleted thread, I don't know the issue myself, but it is not uncommon to hide/delete "security" related threads to solve it before anybody can take advantage of the bug.

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February 05, 2019, 03:44:06 PM
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mOgliE is addressing a serious point that I have noticed in the past, but didn't want to comment on.

These images (which I see on twitter every few days as well) makes it look like it's really common for gamblers t owin huge amounts of money. In the description, it often says stuff like 'this guys showed us how to turn X amount of money into Y amount of money, which is often not true since most gamblers need to make a huge amount of bets before they even hit that big multiplier.

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February 05, 2019, 05:05:00 PM
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mOgliE is addressing a serious point that I have noticed in the past, but didn't want to comment on.

What? Oo

Hmm... No... I was merelly asking for a bit more details if they have some. I just happen to like the data pages you can get on gambling sites that's all. That was merely a small suggestion as all this data is already available for Primedice so putting them in a table shouldn't be lots of work and I'm sure i'm not the only one who would appreciate it.

That's all. There is nothing more, I'm not adressing any issue Oo
How dare you not address a serious point!! Cheesy Lol. I agree with you on this one, any sane person with a brain would know this is just to showcase a good result with the other gamblers and since the results are always open to public on the website anyway this is not some sneaky tactic to make everyone gamble with the hopes of winning a lot of money.

@Josepth the fact of the matter is that most of the time people do gamble knowingly full on that they will lose because there is a house edge however house edge works on long periods of times and this just shows even tough with house edge you will lose long term, there is always that short bursts of winning chance for you with one big winning changing your luck chance to your favor. Doesn't always happen every single time you gamble but this shows there is that chance.
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February 06, 2019, 04:54:28 AM
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The fact of the matter is that most of the time people do gamble knowingly full on that they will lose because there is a house edge however house edge works on long periods of times and this just shows even tough with house edge you will lose long term, there is always that short bursts of winning chance for you with one big winning changing your luck chance to your favor. Doesn't always happen every single time you gamble but this shows there is that chance.

Yes, most of the players already know about the house edge but I still doubt all of them are already understand on that or not. Because I still saw there are still people complaining about the house edge and being not provably fair as well just because they losing on particular site. And btw by mean of short burst, I do not think it will work on everyone, depends on what startegy that you are using though. Big multiplier is good if you can manage your bankroll to play though
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February 06, 2019, 07:02:19 AM
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I don't think its the house edge that cleans out most gamblers, the house edge is so small it might cause some type of bot strategy to lose in the long run, its not large enough to make an effect with a small number of bets.

The reason why most people lose is because they most likely use martingale and they become emotional and greedy and get their account emptied. Basically they make a small base bet say $1 or so. They double their bet on every loss and basically think they have some secret strategy and think that "15 reds is impossible" then shortly after when they are in profit maybe $100 or $200 or so they end up getting into a huge 7-8 red lossing streak and they keep doubling their bets thinking the next bet will bring them to break-even but instead it becomes another loss and their account is empty. Then they deposit the rest of their bitcoins into the site and end up losing all their BTC because they get cleaned out within the next bet or 2.

The casinos would make a profit even on 0% house edge but due to bots it would create too many issues.

 
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February 06, 2019, 02:21:40 PM
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I don't think its the house edge that cleans out most gamblers, the house edge is so small it might cause some type of bot strategy to lose in the long run, its not large enough to make an effect with a small number of bets.

The reason why most people lose is because they most likely use martingale and they become emotional and greedy and get their account emptied. Basically they make a small base bet say $1 or so. They double their bet on every loss and basically think they have some secret strategy and think that "15 reds is impossible" then shortly after when they are in profit maybe $100 or $200 or so they end up getting into a huge 7-8 red lossing streak and they keep doubling their bets thinking the next bet will bring them to break-even but instead it becomes another loss and their account is empty. Then they deposit the rest of their bitcoins into the site and end up losing all their BTC because they get cleaned out within the next bet or 2.

The casinos would make a profit even on 0% house edge but due to bots it would create too many issues.
Emotions and greed has been the reason why most of the gamblers lose their investments but I think it is purely good for the gambling and betting companies as this is what kept them in business 
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