Pre-ICO bonuses

[Michaelsch]

I think youre right. Pre sales with a huge bonus get dumped the most time and the price will stay arround the ICO price! I love presales where the community gets added to whitelist. More people that are interested in the project going to invest and they dont dump their coins, because they believe in the project.

I am curious to know more about the whitelists - is that something standard what people do? and how it differs from the ordinary pre-sale? Do people not get any coins before ICO in this case, but just book for some amount? or what? any special topic on the whitelists?

I also wanted to know more.. I've just asked the same question here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135473.msg22090367#msg22090367
As I understood these guys have a whitelist and don't have pre-sale. Will see what they say..

[diskodasa]

why you dont invest first to get these bonus? this is reward for them. they should have bonus because they take the risk.

[NathanJB]

Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

It is one of the possibilities but it is not definite and conclusive. It does not automatically follow that because a certain ICO is offering a 100% bonus, it is going to fail in the future. A hundred percent bonus is normally offered to those very early birds. These include a very small number of solid investors which are not only buying for the sake of investing in tokens but to utilize the entire project.

[Beicin]

I personally dont like bonus for ICOs, i feel like its a shady practice. And these usually come in ICOs with INSANELY high hard caps (or no hard caps at all in place).

For me the best ICOs do it like Kyber did - set up a maximum that a single person can buy (2-3eth is good, so you dont create whales right off the bat) and dont offer bonuses for earlier buyers.

[unhappycookie]

I also think that 100% is too much. It must be 30% but stable and constant.

[WARlrus]

I also think that 100% is too much. It must be 30% but stable and constant.

even they take the risk to invest but 100% is too much. they will dump all their bonus to market

[Michaelsch]

I think youre right. Pre sales with a huge bonus get dumped the most time and the price will stay arround the ICO price! I love presales where the community gets added to whitelist. More people that are interested in the project going to invest and they dont dump their coins, because they believe in the project.

I am curious to know more about the whitelists - is that something standard what people do? and how it differs from the ordinary pre-sale? Do people not get any coins before ICO in this case, but just book for some amount? or what? any special topic on the whitelists?

I also wanted to know more.. I've just asked the same question here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135473.msg22090367#msg22090367
As I understood these guys have a whitelist and don't have pre-sale. Will see what they say..

I've received these two answers about the differences between pre-sale and whitelist. I hope it could help someone too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135473.msg22090921#msg22090921
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135473.msg22101794#msg22101794

[Zadicar]

Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

100% bonus? Wow thats generous and i didnt see any ICO did able to give that big discount for their pre-sale.Its too much i guess because the thing i do encounter i do see only 25% below.I guess its just enough to have these bonuses because it is also one of the factors to get some investors which would really fund up the project but 100%? Ill think i pass on that one.

[DariaPT]

I've received these two answers about the differences between pre-sale and whitelist. I hope it could help someone too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135473.msg22090921#msg22090921
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135473.msg22101794#msg22101794

Thanks! That's handy

I finally found this explanation here https://blog.artoken.io/announcing-whitelist-application-why-we-chose-not-to-do-a-pre-sale-243db0923843 - seems to become more clear now

[Robertqueen2]

Some projects need just to attract investors by giving %100 bonus, but most new ICOs give up to %50 only, which is fair, however the early backers period is very short with limited amount of tokens in most of ICOs, and sometimes all tokens go to venture capitals.

[Michaelsch]

Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

I also do not like the idea of early bonuses, that makes people rush towards investing their money without taking the time to research the project and if the bonuses are very large then early investors will probably sell their coins and obtain fast profits with their bonuses.

What could be a reasonable bonus size in your opinion?

Zero, that is the only reasonable size, any size other than that creates an incentive to invest in the project to get fast profits instead of being there for the long term, of course such a project is not going to have as much attention as one with huge bonuses but it gives a more serious impression than other icos that seem to want to grab as much money as possible and as fast as they can.

Why should not the organizers encourage those who believe in the project and support it from the very beginning?

[Michaelsch]

foodcoin.io had a great multiplier bonus of 1.35 and 1.7 . Does anyone know of any others coming up in the short term?

I've just found out a very promising one.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135473.0
It seems like they've got a great potential of their tokens, also because they're gonna create a wide marketplace ecosystem for a visual content. That's cool! Just started reading their whitepaper, will see how it goes

That's really cool! It looks like you could have good bonuses if you invest early. Did you see their bounty campaigns? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2141145.0

I've never thought about it, but actually, it's a great idea to earn some tokens even before the ICO start

I also haven't but want to try! 

Did you try it since last week? ARtoken looks like a pretty interesting ICO, but they made some changes in the project... some of them differently good, but maybe I just don't see something important...

[lobo13hf]

I personally dont like bonus for ICOs, i feel like its a shady practice. And these usually come in ICOs with INSANELY high hard caps (or no hard caps at all in place).

For me the best ICOs do it like Kyber did - set up a maximum that a single person can buy (2-3eth is good, so you dont create whales right off the bat) and dont offer bonuses for earlier buyers.

Too much bonus for ICO will make the price of token get dumped, the whale dont care about future of token, they just dump it at the price of ICO because they have overwhelming amount of bonus, that's why many ico with too much presale bonus will have bad rate in the future.
I do agree, kyber is best, but I think the limitation can be bypassed right?

[AuctusProject]

Auctus whitelist is almost finished! We have 20% bonus at presale.

Subscribe at Auctus.org  =)

[susila_bai]

Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

What you are telling is true that when the offer is very sweet like giving 100% of bonus means the developer is not serious about his project and that ICO is only pump and dump coin. So who ever is going to invest in that coin should better sell of the coins when it hits exchange as you will get the coin in 50% lesser then what price they sold on launching day.

[e11io]

In the case of Experimental, we only accept 300 people on our PRE-ICO, only engaged crypto enthusiasts that are not here just for speculation. We want to create a community that can suggest and discuss ideas. No bonuses, not speculation. https://e11.io

[sasaku bitbit]

many of the several projects that deliver a promo with ICO 100% in order for investors interested in the project but with limited support in the short time the Division of tokennnya ... but I've been following the project that gives bonuses by 30% only but create very happy

[tukangkopi]

many of the several projects that deliver a promo with ICO 100% in order for investors interested in the project but with limited support in the short time the Division of tokennnya ... but I've been following the project that gives bonuses by 30% only but create very happy

what does it mean "tokennya?".
pre-ico bonus is very profitable but very risky because we can not guarantee that the coins we buy will be successful and listed on the exchange, you better invest only in projects that have a guarantee to buy back

[v3liana]

Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

yes i agree. its true pre sale means for investor to gain some bonuses. but its doesnt mean we would gain a profit from the bonuses that we got from pre sale cause price/ value is determined by market and we dont know what will come to us . we only could predict the market.

[unhappycookie]

I also think that pre-ICO bonuses must be more opened for people, oftenly, it's hide and only small group of informed clients know about it.
More information can bring more investments, more clients and more popularity.