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December 12, 2017, 02:38:56 PM
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We considered the idea of offering bonuses but we believe that our business model, the market we are aiming at, and the fact that our ICO offers a high level of profit share to all token owners meant that we didn't want to do this.

We also took on board what Vitalik recently said when he voiced his opinion about ICO's which offer these types of bonuses. His last words on the topic were "avoid them".

That's not true in all cases of course, but we believe in what we are doing and aim to maximise profits for token holders on the tokens they bought. We also feel that bonuses can in a lot of cases, cause the price of tokens to fall immediately after the completion of the sale and again, we don't want to have that effect on our investors and wish to give them true value for their investment.

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December 12, 2017, 02:45:28 PM
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Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

Pre-ICO dont give bonuses, they offer Discounts on purchasing Tokens.



it's probably the same... I mean mathematically you will not see any differences between bonus and discount
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December 12, 2017, 03:00:13 PM
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December 14, 2017, 06:52:42 AM
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I believe that bonuses attract investors, but the maximum discount is best 80%, not 100%. ICO should be of interest to investors, and not give out tokens for free, which in that case will quickly become useless.
         
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December 14, 2017, 10:48:11 AM
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Offering bonus from marketing point of view is not bad, these bonuses attract many investors however these days we see ICOs are even offering 100% bonus. This is scary.

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In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

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December 14, 2017, 11:20:09 AM
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I completely agree with you that's why everyone buys right out the door and no interest right after.

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December 15, 2017, 01:43:08 PM
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Bonus are like fake discount. If every investor get bonus, so nobody get it. There is a lot of ICO out there that complete only first stage with pre-ico bonus then they are no interest after that and the other ICO part don't sell well.
And there is something else. Ico's are initial coin offerings, they're meant to be the first sale. The projects that make pre-ico trend encourages people to let their friends in first at a lower price and then sell the 'normal' price to everyone else in what's really the 2nd sale. Then their friends can dump on the market at launch for instant profit. Not saying that's what always happens but it happens a lot. The bonuses aren't the only problem here if you stop to think.
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December 15, 2017, 01:53:17 PM
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people who invest should spend more capital and they will get bonuses and others follow ICO without capital but still get the result I think it's fair

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December 15, 2017, 06:34:25 PM
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The resale bonuses are a good marketing strategy with the sale of tokens, it can attract many investors to buy their services, but not every ICO offers a bonus before the sale.
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December 15, 2017, 06:38:22 PM
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Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?

I generally agree. I also find that pre-icos are stupid because they are usually left to the big investors with big pockets. It reminds me of the regulation of stock markets and how that screwed over the little guy. You have to make a good 6-7 figures in order to invest in an IPO in the stock market. I'd hate to see crypto become that.
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December 15, 2017, 06:53:08 PM
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Bonuses for early investors aren't necessarily a bad thing if the percentage is reasonable.  I usually avoid any project that offer 50% bonus or more during the ICO or Pre-ICO.  I feel 20% to 30% is the perfect amount for early investors which is the standard for many projects.

Yes I agree. That's a good happy point. I'm actually about to go in on a pre-sale for the bee token. Pretty cool idea as the decentralized version of airbnb with zero commission fees.
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December 15, 2017, 07:09:37 PM
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Bonus are like fake discount. If every investor get bonus, so nobody get it. There is a lot of ICO out there that complete only first stage with pre-ico bonus then they are no interest after that and the other ICO part don't sell well.
And there is something else. Ico's are initial coin offerings, they're meant to be the first sale. The projects that make pre-ico trend encourages people to let their friends in first at a lower price and then sell the 'normal' price to everyone else in what's really the 2nd sale. Then their friends can dump on the market at launch for instant profit. Not saying that's what always happens but it happens a lot. The bonuses aren't the only problem here if you stop to think.

They are like fake discounts, I agree. They are designed in a way that maximize the profit of the token sale and token generation events. They're not realistic things, just to attract investors.
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December 15, 2017, 07:46:30 PM
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Yes, I can not disagree with you, a 100% bonus is already too much, no matter how much the project is likely to drain coins! But there are also projects that offer small bonuses that help attract normal, real investors. In our time, especially in 2017, 95 percent of ICO is SCAM, so carefully study the product, the technical document and, of course, the team before investing! Good luck to all in this difficult business!

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December 15, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
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Everything is calculated starting from pre-ICO and ICO. Generally speaking, early adopters should be rewarded more than late investors in practice everything is related to how good is your ICO, how many whales are interested and if it ticks all boxes for them you may get really good deal.  One in five ICO's out there is a very good investment so you must do your homework your own research and make sure you picked the right project then yes it will be very profitable short and long-term. I participated early in 3 ICO's one was profitable from day one, and two others are flops for short-term and might improve with time (as long-term investments) Generally if you do your best and you pick right project pre-sale and ICO are very good ways to invest but be careful.
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February 09, 2018, 11:07:12 AM
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February 09, 2018, 11:13:45 AM
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Hi

In most of ICOs, investors can get some bonuses, if they invest sooner. In my opinion these bonuses not only don't cause the ICO to be successful, but also cause the ICO to fail. In some ICOs there is up to 100% bonus.

If I see that there are some people have gotten 100% bonus in pre-ICO, I don't invest in that ICO, Because they will dump their coins after crowdsale and cause the price to fall.
 Do you agree with me? What are your opinions?
If you consider any crowdsale as easy way to make few X's right after ICO, than this is bad thing for you, if project gives a bonus on pre-sale. For me, if I see future in projects idea, I would love to buy tokens on pre-sale to get bonus, and I will hold it for 1 year+.

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February 09, 2018, 11:14:23 AM
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OP is right. Alot of these icos are greedy and dont give a fk for the general people that invest in their projects. They do give special bonuses or discounts to bigger whales or groups, which is unfair for us smaller investors.
Something like cobinhood giving these big whales or investment groups 150% bonuses? Thats just sickening.
But if an ico give bonuses to early investors big and small, that would be fair. Not just to special bonuses to these big investors. That would level the playing field for everyone. Because every investor is treated fairly.
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February 09, 2018, 11:22:50 AM
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With this bonus I am very confident that many enthusiasts will participate in an ico because if ico reach the maximum limit allows the success of a project going forward and the efforts of the participants to run the campaign did not go to waste.

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February 09, 2018, 11:28:35 AM
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But if an ico give bonuses to early investors big and small, that would be fair. Not just to special bonuses to these big investors. That would level the playing field for everyone. Because every investor is treated fairly.
There's an ICO that is giving fair bonuses to their investors and they held last year but stopped it because they want to be fair with their investors and wanted to make soft caps and hard caps into reality. If you'll invest today with their public pre-sale you'll get 30% bonus which is a very fair one and it will be down to 20% bonus on March 12 so while there's still a month left for the public pre-sale grab the chance of getting in with 30% bonus.
I'm talking about VLB ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2863598.0 ) www.vlb.io

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February 10, 2018, 12:57:03 PM
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the price is usually set and entered how many bonuses earned early investors. the better thing to do is not to invest, but just buy in exchange when the price goes down. this is when will be the same time you get scammed by a team that will not even try get token.
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