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August 31, 2018, 02:21:19 PM
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Hello Admin,

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Looks interesting. Instant Bitex has total daily trade volume about 4-5 mil$. It's more than 10 times grater compared with Trade Satoshi. It would be good step for VoteCoin to be added here

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A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending. We propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work. The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power. As long as a majority of CPU power is controlled by nodes that are not cooperating to attack the network, they'll generate the longest chain and outpace attackers. The network itself requires minimal structure. Messages are broadcast on a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone.
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September 01, 2018, 11:13:23 AM
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Who is selling this lot of coins ? Is it an asic machine z9 ? With 50 Satoshi its only profitable with asic.No GPU can mine it profitable with this price.
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September 01, 2018, 11:46:17 AM
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Who is selling this lot of coins ? Is it an asic machine z9 ? With 50 Satoshi its only profitable with asic.No GPU can mine it profitable with this price.

It's only several hundred dollars daily volume. Indeed VOT mining profitable days can be counted one's fingers. And it's due to very thin market with no liquidity. VOT price on Trade Satoshi is very manipulative. You can move market by 50% only with 0.1-0.2 BTC. As soon as VOT reach an exchange with enough volumes we will see the profitability equal other Equihash coins. Also should to note Equihash becomes ASIC-algo and nothing can be done about it.

BTC   Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System   BTC
A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending. We propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work. The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power. As long as a majority of CPU power is controlled by nodes that are not cooperating to attack the network, they'll generate the longest chain and outpace attackers. The network itself requires minimal structure. Messages are broadcast on a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone.
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September 01, 2018, 11:59:08 AM
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Hello,  Go to the official website and click the buy button. That should answer your bounty question.. Check it up!
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September 01, 2018, 12:13:57 PM
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Hello,  Go to the official website and click the buy button. That should answer your bounty question.. Check it up!

There is no buy button in official website
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September 01, 2018, 12:20:23 PM
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Who is selling this lot of coins ? Is it an asic machine z9 ? With 50 Satoshi its only profitable with asic.No GPU can mine it profitable with this price.

It's only several hundred dollars daily volume. Indeed VOT mining profitable days can be counted one's fingers. And it's due to very thin market with no liquidity. VOT price on Trade Satoshi is very manipulative. You can move market by 50% only with 0.1-0.2 BTC. As soon as VOT reach an exchange with enough volumes we will see the profitability equal other Equihash coins. Also should to note Equihash becomes ASIC-algo and nothing can be done about it.
I dont know if a bigger exchange helps for the price. If i have a z9 asic and its profitable to sell at 50 satoschi i would do the same. So the Problem is the asic is profitable and the GPU not.
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I will clarify the situation. The new version at startup produces an error: error cannot find the zcash network parameters in the following directory. And in this directory I put the keys:
https://z.cash/downloads/sprout-proving.key
https://z.cash/downloads/sprout-verifying.key

But the error still appears. Perhaps something is missing or I need to download other keys? (Talk about windows 10)

In the new version of the wallet in the folder zkSNARK should be more files
Code:
sapling-output.params
sapling-spend.params
sprout-groth16.params

How to get them?
Code:
Please run 'zcash for-fetch-params' or
'./zcutil/fetch-params.sh' and then restart.
Where these scripts take in Windows?
I threw these 3 files from my wallet on Linux. But now when I start votecoind.exe it requests rpcuser and rpcpassword. I did not understand further.
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September 01, 2018, 11:20:28 PM
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When you download the new version and copy files from new wallet into old wallet like it says, opening the wallet downloaded the proving keys again it took a while longer than the first time. But it came right as soon as it finished getting the keys... I could try upload the proving keys files i have in my wallet and you can try it if you like, please join the Votecoin discord and post your issue in the #help section.

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September 02, 2018, 05:06:49 PM
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I dont know if a bigger exchange helps for the price. If i have a z9 asic and its profitable to sell at 50 satoschi i would do the same. So the Problem is the asic is profitable and the GPU not.

It became clear after Equihash asic's announcement. Is it bad or good? According previously presented asics for example for x11 algo the price of x11 coins grew up very high in half of year. So it's quite possible that it can be with equihash also. Time will show

BTC   Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System   BTC
A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending. We propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work. The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power. As long as a majority of CPU power is controlled by nodes that are not cooperating to attack the network, they'll generate the longest chain and outpace attackers. The network itself requires minimal structure. Messages are broadcast on a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone.
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September 02, 2018, 05:34:02 PM
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I dont know if a bigger exchange helps for the price. If i have a z9 asic and its profitable to sell at 50 satoschi i would do the same. So the Problem is the asic is profitable and the GPU not.

It became clear after Equihash asic's announcement. Is it bad or good? According previously presented asics for example for x11 algo the price of x11 coins grew up very high in half of year. So it's quite possible that it can be with equihash also. Time will show
Do you really believe that asic is good for the coin ?.i see a massive dump since asic is in advange about the costs of mining with this coin. Even the price is under Rentability then asic stops. But this Price is very low. I believr half from now
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September 02, 2018, 05:41:18 PM
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Many countries continue to be wary of cryptocurrencies. They need full control over the turnover of the cryptocurrencies so that they can impose taxes on them. And it's very difficult to realize in real life. Guys, does your token can be purchased in any country?
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September 04, 2018, 05:19:25 AM
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All ofthe proving files for VoteCoin are the same as for ZCash, thus can be downloaded from official ZCash download URLs:

   https://z.cash/downloads/sprout-proving.key
   https://z.cash/downloads/sprout-verifying.key
   https://z.cash/downloads/sapling-spend.params
   https://z.cash/downloads/sapling-output.params
   https://z.cash/downloads/sprout-groth16.params 

It is described in README.txt file
-Tom



I will clarify the situation. The new version at startup produces an error: error cannot find the zcash network parameters in the following directory. And in this directory I put the keys:
https://z.cash/downloads/sprout-proving.key
https://z.cash/downloads/sprout-verifying.key

But the error still appears. Perhaps something is missing or I need to download other keys? (Talk about windows 10)

In the new version of the wallet in the folder zkSNARK should be more files
Code:
sapling-output.params
sapling-spend.params
sprout-groth16.params

How to get them?
Code:
Please run 'zcash for-fetch-params' or
'./zcutil/fetch-params.sh' and then restart.
Where these scripts take in Windows?
I threw these 3 files from my wallet on Linux. But now when I start votecoind.exe it requests rpcuser and rpcpassword. I did not understand further.

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September 04, 2018, 05:36:50 AM
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Hello Admin,

We are glad to invite you into our instantbitex Exchange.

Coin listing fee of 1 BTC would be reasonable, if the exchange had real volume.
But from my point of view, it is questionable.

For example, just look at the main BTCUSD pair.
Current price at bitfinex is $7276 with spread as low as $1. You can trade 100 BTC within spread of $10
However, on instantbitex there are sell orders for price $7355 and buy orders for $6875 which is spread $480.
It indicates very low real trading volume to me.
-Tom

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September 04, 2018, 09:06:26 AM
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Hey Tom,

it's 1 year now I follow you and invest in VOT, but, I don't see any market strategy. What do you think you will do for add VOT in more exchanges? Tradesatoshi it's NOT GOOD for coin value.

I know you talk about that months ago but, no strategy for now.  Huh

Do Something for the community, more activity more publicity more market strategy. I hope you will do something because if not I've just invest in the wrong project.  Undecided

(sorry for my bad English)
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September 04, 2018, 10:40:40 AM
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Hey Tom,

it's 1 year now I follow you and invest in VOT, but, I don't see any market strategy. What do you think you will do for add VOT in more exchanges? Tradesatoshi it's NOT GOOD for coin value.

I know you talk about that months ago but, no strategy for now.  Huh

Do Something for the community, more activity more publicity more market strategy. I hope you will do something because if not I've just invest in the wrong project.  Undecided

(sorry for my bad English)

What in particular do you suggest to do, in order to add VOT to more exchanges?
Thank you
-Tom

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September 04, 2018, 11:03:25 AM
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Hey Tom,

it's 1 year now I follow you and invest in VOT, but, I don't see any market strategy. What do you think you will do for add VOT in more exchanges? Tradesatoshi it's NOT GOOD for coin value.

I know you talk about that months ago but, no strategy for now.  Huh

Do Something for the community, more activity more publicity more market strategy. I hope you will do something because if not I've just invest in the wrong project.  Undecided

(sorry for my bad English)

What in particular do you suggest to do, in order to add VOT to more exchanges?
Thank you
-Tom



Thank you for reply me.

First of all i suggest doing a large publicity Campaign, contact youtuber (like "altcoinbuzz", "altcoin daily", "crpytolark" ecc.) to spread the utility of VOT. More activity on twitter and create a reddit.

When our community as growth then you can do a second ICO offer to take found for add VOT in big exchanges, because, nobody will trade on tradesatoshi, only miners who need to sell fast.

There are peoples who believe too much in you and the project, if you need help tell us, but we need you too.
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September 04, 2018, 12:11:35 PM
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Do you really believe that asic is good for the coin ?.i see a massive dump since asic is in advange about the costs of mining with this coin. Even the price is under Rentability then asic stops. But this Price is very low. I believr half from now

I think the current price is not enough adequate due to very thin market. And trading volumes confirm that. Equihash asics could be dangerous for VOT if somebody would like to 51% attack VOT network. At the moment it's not very expensive due to enough low hashrate. There was an example of successful 51% attack to BTG in May'18. But in this case low price of VOT surprisingly helps  Cheesy because 51% attack simply nonprofitable.

BTC   Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System   BTC
A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending. We propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work. The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power. As long as a majority of CPU power is controlled by nodes that are not cooperating to attack the network, they'll generate the longest chain and outpace attackers. The network itself requires minimal structure. Messages are broadcast on a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone.
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September 04, 2018, 03:38:48 PM
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Do you really believe that asic is good for the coin ?.i see a massive dump since asic is in advange about the costs of mining with this coin. Even the price is under Rentability then asic stops. But this Price is very low. I believr half from now

I think the current price is not enough adequate due to very thin market. And trading volumes confirm that. Equihash asics could be dangerous for VOT if somebody would like to 51% attack VOT network. At the moment it's not very expensive due to enough low hashrate. There was an example of successful 51% attack to BTG in May'18. But in this case low price of VOT surprisingly helps  Cheesy because 51% attack simply nonprofitable.

Attack is non profitable . So we are lucky guys. :-)
Its strange that all people are selling at 50 sat. What is- if its only one man who wants that the price goes down? Why does he do that ? There is a massive Buy Order at 50 sat and one at 40 sat.
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Do you really believe that asic is good for the coin ?.i see a massive dump since asic is in advange about the costs of mining with this coin. Even the price is under Rentability then asic stops. But this Price is very low. I believr half from now

I think the current price is not enough adequate due to very thin market. And trading volumes confirm that. Equihash asics could be dangerous for VOT if somebody would like to 51% attack VOT network. At the moment it's not very expensive due to enough low hashrate. There was an example of successful 51% attack to BTG in May'18. But in this case low price of VOT surprisingly helps  Cheesy because 51% attack simply nonprofitable.

Attack is non profitable . So we are lucky guys. :-)
Its strange that all people are selling at 50 sat. What is- if its only one man who wants that the price goes down? Why does he do that ? There is a massive Buy Order at 50 sat and one at 40 sat.

If I would have free funds I would buy VOT at that price.
In Dec'17 I bought VOTs below 30 sats and somebody sold it to me at that level. Maybe one was just weak hands. I don't think that miners now sell VOTs. To sell VOTs you previously need to mine VOTs. But it is unprofitable for immediately selling. Or one is very strange miner

BTC   Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System   BTC
A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending. We propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work. The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power. As long as a majority of CPU power is controlled by nodes that are not cooperating to attack the network, they'll generate the longest chain and outpace attackers. The network itself requires minimal structure. Messages are broadcast on a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone.
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September 04, 2018, 06:38:18 PM
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What in particular do you suggest to do, in order to add VOT to more exchanges?
Thank you
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Thank you for reply me.

First of all i suggest doing a large publicity Campaign, contact youtuber (like "altcoinbuzz", "altcoin daily", "crpytolark" ecc.) to spread the utility of VOT. More activity on twitter and create a reddit.

When our community as growth then you can do a second ICO offer to take found for add VOT in big exchanges, because, nobody will trade on tradesatoshi, only miners who need to sell fast.

There are peoples who believe too much in you and the project, if you need help tell us, but we need you too.

How does publicity Campaign or contacting youtubers help VoteCoin to be listed on exchanges? I don't really get it.
There is no possibility of another ICO, it is no longer technically possible without a hard fork.
We are developers, not marketers, there is no "business plan" or "marketing strategy" for VoteCoin, I am afraid.
-Tom

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