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May 26, 2013, 04:49:33 PM Last edit: May 26, 2013, 05:00:38 PM by franky1 |
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3. Laws still apply dumb ass, you can just choose to have a police force that is told not to worry about certain things. That way as long as the wanted person never files their social security number anywhere, no one from outside will even know they live there. So unless they did something worth hunting them for, the outside government will have no reason/evidence to come there. Ad if they do, they do. Oh well. We will just have to defend the guy in court.
so you wish to employe an ignorant town sheriff that will ignore certain laws and have magic powers to stop state police from entering the town... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZsLLFROucc 2 minutes 40 seconds ........"they wouldnt extradite you"......................... seriously dont research creating a town using wiki.. wiki has been wrote by individuals not experts.
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May 26, 2013, 04:52:37 PM |
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yea I have to agree our local police force would get a warrant from the state, if you don't bring them in the state will come in and yea your town leader could easily get in very big trouble ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) and I don't ever plan on going to prison
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May 26, 2013, 04:54:10 PM |
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I honestly think we should really look into Harding county! I can say if we come in as loving Americans that want to better their county, they would love the idea, we could make it so much better, plus if we got people on our side, we could really make a difference. We could have a town, sure ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) but imagine if the entire county was in on our thinking! We would have to campaign through town, which could end up costing just as much as buying land. I think it would be better to start with our own land, and lead through example. Then start finding towns like that, and Collin County Texas to start having relations with. Then eventually we can start a political party based on the towns philosophy and it can spread to wherever.
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May 26, 2013, 04:55:06 PM |
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Also I can tell you coming from a small town, sadly our police are never board, the officers there usually don't have backup, which from the stories I've heard is very scary when you have multiple armed people and its just you and backup is 10 min away ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I have traveled across America, and lived in small towns and I don't know where you got that idea. Small towns are known for speed traps, and bored police.
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May 26, 2013, 04:56:19 PM |
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3. Laws still apply dumb ass, you can just choose to have a police force that is told not to worry about certain things. That way as long as the wanted person never files their social security number anywhere, no one from outside will even know they live there. So unless they did something worth hunting them for, the outside government will have no reason/evidence to come there. Ad if they do, they do. Oh well. We will just have to defend the guy in court.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZsLLFROucc 2 minutes 40 seconds ........"they wouldnt extradite you"......................... seriously dont research creating a town using wiki.. wiki has been wrote by individuals not experts. check out the BETTER resource material that the new hampshire project is doing Do you know how to read? That way as long as the wanted person never files their social security number anywhere, no one from outside will even know they live there. So unless they did something worth hunting them for, the outside government will have no reason/evidence to come there. Ad if they do, they do. Oh well. We will just have to defend the guy in court.If they don't know you live there, how can they extradite you. lol
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May 26, 2013, 04:56:57 PM |
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yea I have to agree our local police force would get a warrant from the state, if you don't bring them in the state will come in and yea your town leader could easily get in very big trouble ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) and I don't ever plan on going to prison I never said that people wouldn't go to jail. I said it would be a sanctuary. And the town leader CAN NOT get in trouble for that. If the police have been told to not arrest stoners, then no one gets in trouble for smoking weed, and the police don't get in trouble for not arresting them. If a state or county cop comes in though, and makes an arrest. That's on him.
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May 26, 2013, 04:58:58 PM |
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well in ohio buying land is sent to the county auditor which requires ss number and tax and every town in Ohio ive been in have been great police force, only one small town is know for a speed trap and that's because they are very poor and people drive very fast through roads with kids...just saying ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think all states are that way you have to report your ss when buying land not sure but i think...
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May 26, 2013, 05:00:50 PM |
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well in ohio buying land is sent to the county auditor which requires ss number and tax and every town in Ohio ive been in have been great police force, only one small town is know for a speed trap and that's because they are very poor and people drive very fast through roads with kids...just saying ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think all states are that way you have to report your ss when buying land not sure but i think... That's fine, I would be the one that got tax forms and everything I already plan on that. And the south is different than Ohio. Speed traps galore, especially in New Mexico and Arizona and other places with 100 mile long roads that are just in the desert.
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May 26, 2013, 05:03:16 PM |
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so you would basically "own" the land, because I'm pretty sure if you did a private auction, then the land is still legally yours unless you report it to county auditor.
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May 26, 2013, 05:06:26 PM |
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so you would basically "own" the land, because I'm pretty sure if you did a private auction, then the land is still legally yours unless you report it to county auditor.
Well, at first. Unless other people wanted to come sign the deed with me. But we would work out a document that gave everyone their fair share of land, and it would be rightfully theirs at that point.
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May 26, 2013, 05:10:13 PM |
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but not legally ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) unless it is signed off by the county auditor, honestly wouldn't it be easier to just do it legally and buy the land then sell it to people and have then sign the transfer doc with the county auditor, because I'll be honest unless you did something illegal do we want you in our town? I mean if it is smoking or something small like that, they won't get you, that would involve the state sending a police from that state to come get you, so unless its something kinda bad (which you most likely then don't want those kinds of fokes, i think it would easier to do it legally.
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May 26, 2013, 05:10:24 PM |
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all of your promises for the price of $10,000 per person.. lol nice sales pitch, shame the research lacks. i personally have funds that could have bought up the land you require all by myself. but your lack of knowledge proves to me you are not worthy of investment. i can tell just by the words you use, you simply read 3 paragraphs from wikipedia and think you know everything needed to get the town financially, legally and socially settled. you are missing out soooooooooooooooooooooo much.. check out the BETTER resource material that the new hampshire project is doing. this is just a silly beg for $10,000 for x people for a silly idea that will not work. especially with this guy heading it up. by the way Oh well. We will just have to defend the guy in court. so suddenly you now have lawyers, a courthouse, etc. dang.. Do you know how to read? That way as long as the wanted person never files their social security number anywhere, no one from outside will even know they live there. So unless they did something worth hunting them for, the outside government will have no reason/evidence to come there. Ad if they do, they do. Oh well. We will just have to defend the guy in court.
If they don't know you live there, how can they extradite you. lol
so not filing social security documents is what you consider sanctuary. atleast open a newspaper! i plead to you. there are people that dont hand over social security numbers in every town and in every country. research illegal immigrants. yet they get caught all the time. there are even times where someone is actually protected by non-extradition laws of different countries that still get extradited. *cough* wikileaks *cough* .. now ill wait for the reply that suddenly an embassy, a courthouse, a state governor, are also covered by this $10,000 per person plan.... wait for it.. wait for it....... here comes more fud trying to convince people to hand over funds to him
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May 26, 2013, 05:14:11 PM |
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Honestly I kinda agree, I want this to be a place for people that want to help others, but everyone works, I seriously don't get that notion, even if i was a millionaire I would still work, because that way you are being an asset to society. I'll be honest, we would have an actually police and we would do everything legally. We won't turn a blind eye, that's just wrong morally and ethically
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May 26, 2013, 05:15:41 PM |
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Honestly I kinda agree, I want this to be a place for people that want to help others, but everyone works, I seriously don't get that notion, even if i was a millionaire I would still work, because that way you are being an asset to society. I'll be honest, we would have an actually police and we would do everything legally. We won't turn a blind eye, that's just wrong morally and ethically
i agree a idea of the new hampshire free state project with communities of workers in different disciplines is the way forward for bitcoin main-streaming.. bit finshaggys township idea.......... hell no
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May 26, 2013, 05:17:18 PM |
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1. but not legally ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) unless it is signed off by the county auditor, honestly wouldn't it be easier to just do it legally and buy the land then sell it to people and have then sign the transfer doc with the county auditor, 2. because I'll be honest unless you did something illegal do we want you in our town? I mean if it is smoking or something small like that, they won't get you, that would involve the state sending a police from that state to come get you, so unless its something kinda bad (which you most likely then don't want those kinds of fokes, i think it would easier to do it legally. 1. I just got finished saying that we would work out getting everyone their territory afterwards. What makes you think I was against doing it with a auditor? 2. I'm not sure what you are saying. Are you thinking that I am trying to invite criminals to town. I'm confused now, because I never said that. I said debtors. And again, why are you saying "It would be best to do it legally". When was doing ANYTHING illegally even suggested?
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May 26, 2013, 05:17:38 PM |
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Yea I want this to be like look, those people who do bitcoin, love humanity and want to see everyone prosper. Imagine the publicly bitcoin would get ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 26, 2013, 05:18:56 PM |
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No, I know just wanted to make sure we were clear ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and you can't just forgive debt.... if you own money you own money, i hope im not getting something here....
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May 26, 2013, 05:21:29 PM |
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and I don't want to make bitcoiners out to what your saying, we are honest people, if we owe money we pay it off, if you do something wrong we do the time, we are ones who give to help others and love doing great things for humanity ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) like feeding the homeless
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May 26, 2013, 05:22:01 PM |
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I am willing to bet against the successful creation of this town with good odds (for you) and a long timeframe. In other words, you can profit off its success with a several hundred percent return.
Anyone willing to bet please choose terms and an escrow.
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