[ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax

[RealSwissMiner]

Can some senior person PLEASE answer me why these pool seem to be so dishonest and no one cares?

I have mined on https://btczpool.com/workers/t1Hv3U5pKqSduiPvMRmqsJ73NZNYiu8yZEm

for 20 hours now.

Based on Whattomine Calculator I am supposed to have mined

20/24 X 7183 = 5,985 Coins in 20 hours




But all I have mined is: 2384 that is less than 40%!!!! I know how pols work and how difficulty changes but this pool has 91 miners and I am taking the stats over 20 hours so it should be very close to average.



I have similar experience on most pools, specially SuprNova.

Any advise?

I don't think 20 hours is nearly long enough to judge the pool.  The difficulty on btcz has bounced between 40 and 90 several times the past 24 hours.  Some days you will get more "lucky" than others.  There are lots of factors.  Stick it out for at least a week, before making any judgement.  Will probably takes even longer than that to see a true average payout for the pool.

Mathematically you should see the same payout over time from any pool after accounting for any pool fee's.

On a smaller pool you need more statistics meaning wait longer than 20hours as the pool doesnt find that many blocks per hour as big pools but your payout per block is much higher. It could also have happened that the pool you mined on got lucky and you made 140% of what whattomine told you - in that case nobody would complain

[aundroid]

Is the MyBitcoinZ - Wallet not listed anymore on the first page?
I can't find it ...

[alinka]

What can we all do to be listed on some major exchanges polonex, bittrex? We have to help BTCz to gain more volume.

[wudafuxup]

I was one of the first people to start mining this coin when it came out. I dumped everything I mined at 168 sats (thank god) because I was growning increasingly annoyed at the fact that they didn't consider changing the name and logo of the coin. People are starting to realize that just because it has "Bitcoin" on it doesn't mean it is anything remotely special. I like the idea behind this coin but hate the stupid named slapped on it. This coin would have so much more potential if it dropped the bitcoin name but hey, it made me A LOT of money!

PS. Yes I know it is private, gpu minable, decentralized, community raised, yada yada yada... I get that and those are some heavy pros to the coin, but I'm not touching another coin trying to ride bitcoins name.

Bitcoin (BTC)
Bitcoin Gold (BTG)
Bitcoin Cash (BCH)
Bitcoin Z (BTZ)
BitcoinDark (BTCD)
Bitcoin Planet (BTPL)
Bitcoin Plus (XBC)
Bitcoin Red (BTCRED)
Bitcoin Scrypt (BTCS)
BitcoinN (BTN)
Bitcoin Diamond (BCD)
Bitcoin Silver (BTCS)
Bitcoin Private (BTCP)
Bitcoin 21 (XBTC21)

Nobody will take this coin seriously with a name that is clearly trying to ride on bitcoins success, they'll just look at it as a cloned bitcoin shitcoin even if it's not.

Well if you had bought this bitcoin shit just 2 days ago, you would be p 50% today.


Your comments are similar to those made on Ripple 4 years ago when it was trading at a fraction of a cent.

I actually like the name.

Well first of all I never called it shit. I keep coming back to this thread since I genuinely like the project (just hate the name of the coin) and wanna see how it has progressed. I have noticed a lot of people calling it a shitcoin clone, which is what I was trying to explain above.

[llbrunoll]

I'm not expecting the price to increase 250x to $1. Getting to even a fraction of that would a miracle.

hum...

ok...

then...

could you enlighten us all, tell us what are you expectations, and the many whys & reasons behind your skeptical beliefs?

Thanks a lot!

Why don't you tell me your reasons to think it will increase 250 times or more in value?

well... you raise the 250x issue, not me... What a guy... rather vague... (why all negative comments have to be so vague?)  

anyway... some people just like to complain, and point out problems,
others like to be positive, fruitful, and solve problems.

This community is about people looking for solutions, and there are plenty of them here.

.... this community starts from nothing, with a single node running a promising new coin.

Now we have desktop wallets for Windows, Mac, and just recently released a beautiful and user-friendly Android wallet. Exchange-Markets are growing in number and trading volume (we are trading 100 000,00 USD$ a day, Just check CoinMarketCap). We went from TradeSatoshi, to C-Cex, to Stock-Exchages, and this will certainly keep improving. We are close to get enough funds for a sound partnership with Coinomi, and possibly extending to Changelly service in near future.
Funds, are donated and mined by the community. No pre-mining for devs here.
So, there is an infrastructure being built (I hope now you see that).

Value transfer capability - which is embedded as a founding value of any coin - is up and running for BTCZ. We are trading it for BTC, LTC, Doge, USD$...

A tool for fast "Value transfer" across the globe is being build in front of your eyes...Blockchain is a revolution... Lets all learn from this... Me and you man... Lets learn. Please, join us. Help us build. And if you find any flaw, please point it out, and lets look for solutions.

best regards
llbrunoll
  

[NameTaken]

I'm not expecting the price to increase 250x to $1. Getting to even a fraction of that would a miracle.

hum...

ok...

then...

could you enlighten us all, tell us what are you expectations, and the many whys & reasons behind your skeptical beliefs?

Thanks a lot!

Why don't you tell me your reasons to think it will increase 250 times or more in value?

well... you raise the 250x issue, not me... What a guy... rather vague... (why all negative comments have to be so vague?)  

anyway... some people just like to complain, and point out problems,
others like to be positive, fruitful, and solve problems.

This community is about people looking for solutions, and there are plenty of them here.

.... this community starts from nothing, with a single node running a promising new coin.

Now we have desktop wallets for Windows, Mac, and just recently released a beautiful and user-friendly Android wallet. Exchange-Markets are growing in number and trading volume (we are trading 100 000,00 USD$ a day, Just check CoinMarketCap). We went from TradeSatoshi, to C-Cex, to Stock-Exchages, and this will certainly keep improving. We are close to get enough funds for a sound partnership with Coinomi, and possibly extending to Changelly service in near future.
Funds, are donated and mined by the community. No pre-mining for devs here.
So, there is an infrastructure being built (I hope now you see that).

Value transfer capability - which is embedded as a founding value of any coin - is up and running for BTCZ. We are trading it for BTC, LTC, Doge, USD$...

A tool for fast "Value transfer" across the globe is being build in front of your eyes...Blockchain is a revolution... Lets all learn from this... Me and you man... Lets learn. Please, join us. Help us build. And if you find any flaw, please point it out, and lets look for solutions.

best regards
llbrunoll
  

I was giving my opinion in response to other people who say they are expecting this to go to $1+. I can believe 20x, 40x or even 100x increase is possible in the long term but have a hard time believing 250x.

[PKBO]

Can some senior person PLEASE answer me why these pool seem to be so dishonest and no one cares?

I have mined on https://btczpool.com/workers/t1Hv3U5pKqSduiPvMRmqsJ73NZNYiu8yZEm

for 20 hours now.

Based on Whattomine Calculator I am supposed to have mined

20/24 X 7183 = 5,985 Coins in 20 hours

https://imgur.com/a/OU69l


But all I have mined is: 2384 that is less than 40%!!!! I know how pols work and how difficulty changes but this pool has 91 miners and I am taking the stats over 20 hours so it should be very close to average.

https://imgur.com/a/gqcDm

I have similar experience on most pools, specially SuprNova.

Any advise?

Use miningspeed... iam getting 2800 for 24/7 with 1,5 khs
https://bitcoinz.miningspeed.com/workers/t1UaXJGAzFy8Na79ZxcHJLdyCpCuySPMBSP

[bitcoinz-pod]

The issue is, that the community has to explain more the “Z” in the coin name, zkSNARKS technology, the absolute anonymous transfer of coins with high speed transaction.
As soon as mother ZCash has developed the zkSNARKS transfer from mobile, the winning run of BTCZ isn’t stopping.

Community, have a good change into the New Year 2018!
Greetings from Switzerland.

-swisstrader

Realization of Zero Protocol by Zcash team is realy peace of shit. In fact Z adress not working - nodes stuck with them for a long time, and wallet not support encryption or any other security tools.

Thanks tox for your personal research but most people in the industry claim zcash as the best anonymous tech on the market eg.
Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative'
BTCZ has zcash tech inside - latest stable version is already in BitcoinZ

[bitcoinz-pod]

Happy New Year 2018 for All BitcoinZ communities and teams around the globe!

Thanks for your collective engagement and believe!
This is only the beginning...

[yangb0]

Happy New Year 2018 for All BitcoinZ communities and teams around the globe!

Thanks for your collective engagement and believe!
This is only the beginning...

https://i.imgur.com/AtmhRdP.png
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXflfHDN.png&t=584&c=wUdjyIgzGcGz_Q

Just the beginning indeed.

[chancefx]

join in congratulations, happy New Year, btcz 0.1 cents soon)

[Barsban]

Bitcoin is mutated to a gambling coin same as the INTERNET DOT COM bubble shares in 2000/2001 ... Nasdaq crash and money flew away, same will be with BTC and sometimes is Bitcoin dead.

Sure, BTC dead for me and others who have brain, but problem is not with bubble. It's about spoiled codebase of BTC and not the right way of development. The development itself is captured by a not trusted one team that has lost trust. Awesome that we have open source code and can fork it and fix this issue.
And for this reason we must untie the course of BTCz from BTC to other pairs. I suggest BCH pair for this role.

[Barsban]

I was giving my opinion in response to other people who say they are expecting this to go to $1+. I can believe 20x, 40x or even 100x increase is possible in the long term but have a hard time believing 250x.

BTC, BCH, XRP, DASH, IOTA and many other coins at this year made 1000x+ per coin. 100-250x is not a big number....

[NameTaken]

I was giving my opinion in response to other people who say they are expecting this to go to $1+. I can believe 20x, 40x or even 100x increase is possible in the long term but have a hard time believing 250x.

BTC, BCH, XRP, DASH, IOTA and many other coins at this year made 1000x+ per coin. 100-250x is not a big number....

1000x?

BTC $1000 to $19000 = 19x
BCH $330 to $4000 = 12x
ZEC $30 to $720 = 24x
DASH $10 to $1000 = 100x
ETH $7.5 to $750 = 100x
LTC $3.7 to $370 = 100x

[tommy569]

I was giving my opinion in response to other people who say they are expecting this to go to $1+. I can believe 20x, 40x or even 100x increase is possible in the long term but have a hard time believing 250x.

BTC, BCH, XRP, DASH, IOTA and many other coins at this year made 1000x+ per coin. 100-250x is not a big number....

1000x?

BTC $1000 to $19000 = 19x
BCH $330 to $4000 = 12x
ZEC $30 to $720 = 24x
DASH $10 to $1000 = 100x
ETH $7.5 to $750 = 100x
LTC $3.7 to $370 = 100x

NEM 1000x , but we need about several tens millions of trade volume per day to reach that price.
EXTRA: NEM they have 9 bil coins but after 1 year we will have just over 2.6 bil coins

[chancefx]

[Barsban]

BitcoinZ Community Happy New Year!

Just remember: the price is 99% marketing, not developing. I wish that we will concentrate on marketing at 2018 !

[NameTaken]

BitcoinZ Community Happy New Year!

Just remember: the price is 99% marketing, not developing. I wish that we will concentrate on marketing at 2018 !

ZClassic and Hush was going nowhere until they announced Hushlist and Bitcoin Private development for $1.8 to $110 = 60 times increase.

[engmsf]

Thanks tox for your personal research but most people in the industry claim zcash as the best anonymous tech on the market eg.
Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative'
BTCZ has zcash tech inside - latest stable version is already in BitcoinZ

Agreed!

Comparison of zk-snark coins (equihash algo)

ZEC = 20% founder fund, WTF
ZEN = 8.5% treasury fund
HUSH = Premine
BTG = Premine
ZCL = BTC fork, lame

BTCZ = the only true community coin, no premine, no dev fund, and no founders reward.

[NameTaken]

Thanks tox for your personal research but most people in the industry claim zcash as the best anonymous tech on the market eg.
Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative'
BTCZ has zcash tech inside - latest stable version is already in BitcoinZ

Agreed!

Comparison of zk-snark coins (equihash algo)

ZEC = 20% founder fund, WTF
ZEN = 8.5% treasury fund
HUSH = Premine
BTG = Premine
ZCL = BTC fork, lame

BTCZ = the only true community coin, no premine, no dev fund, and no founders reward.

BTG is a BTC hard fork without zk-SNARK. ZCL is a ZEC fork.