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Author Topic: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage  (Read 66645 times)
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May 18, 2018, 05:43:56 PM
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2. Backup wallet.dat. Start dtc with rescan wallet flags. f.e: "datacoin-qt -rescan -zapwallettxes=1"
P.S. And don't worry. Your coins is still yours.

thanks, it works.
i will try to make few smaller transactions.
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May 18, 2018, 11:52:13 PM
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Hi Everyone,

Some great news!
My entire network went down due to a power outage (lightning storm) and not all my computers were able to shut down properly.
I'm proud to announce that NONE of the 0.15.99.08 Datacoin wallets i was actively running at that time required a re-index when they rebooted!
Great work Verionum and the Datacoin Team! The old client needed a re-index anytime it was looked at funny... lol.
We clearly have a very robust wallet on our hands!
These are exciting times I had hoped for many years ago when like only me and MarcusDE were mining Datacoin Cheesy
That chain back then lost it's way a few times -- but with this new dev crew, things are looking amazing!

Let's keep the momentum going <3

Kind Regards,
The DataSea

Free Datacoin available for development -- just ask!
https://github.com/HugPuddle/Apertus is looking for developers to create the best Datacoin and blockchain data entering/reading program
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May 19, 2018, 12:31:17 AM
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Difficulty goes down, price drop nearly 50%, but difficulty is not dropped 50%.
Future of this coin is : emh....  Angry
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May 19, 2018, 12:33:57 AM
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Difficulty goes down, price drop nearly 50%, but difficulty is not dropped 50%.
Future of this coin is : emh....  Angry

. . . It is within all of our power to make Datacoin what we wish . . .

Free Datacoin available for development -- just ask!
https://github.com/HugPuddle/Apertus is looking for developers to create the best Datacoin and blockchain data entering/reading program
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May 19, 2018, 07:18:43 AM
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. . . It is within all of our power to make Datacoin what we wish . . .

Please, someone, make handy gui tool for saving and restoring file into dtc blockchain.

The second important tool for popularization of dtc is the firefox plugin for opening dtc URI (f.e. dtc://HASHLIKETHIShdjfklglirjtbewfgvuregj.jpg) directly in browser with embedding such files and images in html pages.
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May 19, 2018, 07:44:35 AM
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I have some doubts.

For few previous years of almost dead dtc the huge amount of coins are concentrated in one hands.

F.e. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dtc/address.dws?61563.htm with 11 mln coins.

I see the stable ammount 14 dtc clients of very old version. Not 0.8.6. Not 0.8.5.

It is 0.8.3 !!! version.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dtc/#!network

May be it is the same persons.

I think it is very bad. Such big coins holders and old node holders prevent the people trust dtc and prevent the progress and development of dtc.

May be we need restart dtc blockchain from new origin block.
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May 19, 2018, 08:01:33 AM
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Please, someone, make handy gui tool for saving and restoring file into dtc blockchain.

That will be difficult without a meta-level description that reliably identifies and categorises the structure and content of what is, in essence, an arbitrary chunk of binary code.

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May 19, 2018, 08:05:06 AM
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May be we need restart dtc blockchain from new origin block.

Doing so would kill support for Datacoin from its most loyal promoters and set a precedent the development team is willing to erase rewards which sustained the network you have today.

The distribution is not a secret and has been well known to all.

Rather than try to rob someone of their DTC, it would be better if community members made an offer to hold some of them for a while at a fair price.
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May 19, 2018, 08:12:46 AM
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I think it is very bad. Such big coins holders and old node holders prevent the people trust dtc and prevent the progress and development of dtc.

May be we need restart dtc blockchain from new origin block.

Only if you're comfortable with the prospect of someone else pulling the same stunt, nuking your stash, in a couple of years' time.

Someone (who failed to enquire more deeply into the background of extro's enthusiasm back when I started playing about with a Datacoin ACME meta-data explorer) mistook me for "the new dev" and offered me 2% of the total emissions to that point for around $15k's worth of BTC, iirc. Maybe they're still interested in recovering some of their speculative investment.

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May 19, 2018, 08:20:29 AM
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I have some doubts.

For few previous years of almost dead dtc the huge amount of coins are concentrated in one hands.

F.e. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dtc/address.dws?61563.htm with 11 mln coins.

I see the stable ammount 14 dtc clients of very old version. Not 0.8.6. Not 0.8.5.

It is 0.8.3 !!! version.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dtc/#!network

May be it is the same persons.

I think it is very bad. Such big coins holders and old node holders prevent the people trust dtc and prevent the progress and development of dtc.

May be we need restart dtc blockchain from new origin block.


Yes distribution is very bad, because nobody really was mining it for these years, apart from a 1-4 people, and I know person, who have over 1mln DTC. Strange is that they dont want to help it otherwise, with listing on exchanges etc. That would help them.

They would sell even with current prices, if there would be enough liquidity.

This situation is better with Slimcoin, at least it seems so, that nobody has over 10% of supply in their hands.
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May 19, 2018, 08:30:12 AM
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That will be difficult without a meta-level description that reliably identifies and categorises the structure and content of what is, in essence, an arbitrary chunk of binary code.

Cheers

Graham

I think It is not a big problem. DTC offer storage of binary data for 100 kb per once. Such meta-level descriptionn is independent from network consensus. It is normal to have some different implementation of saving data in dtc. f.e we have some different image formats. gif, jpeg and other. We can have some different ways to store big size data in dtc. But we need to start.
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May 19, 2018, 08:32:43 AM
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May be we need restart dtc blockchain from new origin block.

Doing so would kill support for Datacoin from its most loyal promoters and set a precedent the development team is willing to erase rewards which sustained the network you have today.

The distribution is not a secret and has been well known to all.

Rather than try to rob someone of their DTC, it would be better if community members made an offer to hold some of them for a while at a fair price.
I undestand it. But.

It seems the dtc is already almost dead. If we donn't make something then someone else can make alternative storage coin like dtc and kill dtc finally.
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May 19, 2018, 08:36:41 AM
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It seems the dtc is already almost dead. If we donn't make something then someone else can make alternative storage coin like dtc and kill dtc finally.

The vitality of this network is in your perspective.

Compare DTC of May 2017 with DTC of May 2018.

The new life is obvious to any observer.
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May 19, 2018, 08:40:04 AM
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I think it is very bad. Such big coins holders and old node holders prevent the people trust dtc and prevent the progress and development of dtc.

May be we need restart dtc blockchain from new origin block.

Only if you're comfortable with the prospect of someone else pulling the same stunt, nuking your stash, in a couple of years' time.

I don't want it would happen. But we need to make something for dtc idea, not for dtc holders, not for me.

If someone can nuke my stash - it would be very sad, but if it would be useful for dtc idea then it must be so.
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May 19, 2018, 08:43:12 AM
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It seems the dtc is already almost dead. If we donn't make something then someone else can make alternative storage coin like dtc and kill dtc finally.

The vitality of this network is in your perspective.

Compare DTC of May 2017 with DTC of May 2018.

The new life is obvious to any observer.

Compared to 1-2 entity mining it worldwide for the sole fun of it (as I understand? or it was a plan to mine a lot of it, and then later "revive it" to grow bags), yeah network has get bigger, but it isn't any meaningful amount really.


And it's truth that this coin has big distribution issues. This 11mln we don't even know, if that's an exchange 11mln or one entity.
It looks abandoned for now.
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May 19, 2018, 08:49:57 AM
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I don't want it would happen. But we need to make something for dtc idea, not for dtc holders, not for me.
If someone can nuke my stash - it would be very sad, but if it would be useful for dtc idea then it must be so.

You're referring to the genesis of a new network which forks Datacoin for economic reasons.

The same thing has happened a thousand times before where a developer says, "Let's make a new coin but do something different -- this time I'll be the one who gets rich."
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May 19, 2018, 08:51:43 AM
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The new life is obvious to any observer.

It is obvious to any of ... few observers )))))

But other humanity don't know of it.

It seems more real that someone other community create new coin with similar ideology (censorship free and time proof storage).

Why other people need current dtc blockchain with all of its legacy holders? Why they would want to pay for probable selling of coins of current holders?
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May 19, 2018, 08:55:38 AM
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but it isn't any meaningful amount really.
Yes. it is.


And it's truth that this coin has big distribution issues. This 11mln we don't even know, if that's an exchange 11mln or one entity.
It looks abandoned for now.

Sometime it can be occurred not abandoned and can provoke big selling and crashing dtc price.
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May 19, 2018, 08:57:25 AM
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Why other people need current dtc blockchain with all of its legacy holders?

        - because a track record exists of securing the data since November of 2013.
        - because the whole point of the network is persistent storage.

    A fork of the network starting life by saying "let's delete all of the persistent storage" is going to attract no one.
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May 19, 2018, 09:05:19 AM
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        - because a track record exists of securing the data since November of 2013.
        - because the whole point of the network is persistent storage.

    A fork of the network starting life by saying "let's delete all of the persistent storage" is going to attract no one.
May be it is a necessary sacrifice for make dtc alive.

May be such sacrifice is better than death of dtc.

May be such sacrifice is better to be made now, than later.

And new we can store all of old data in new blockchain with ordinary saving data procedure. Miners can make it. They will pay commission, but they get this commission back while mining correspondent storage blocks.

I don't sure all of it. But it is a big doubts.
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