[ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

[smartJEV]

Do you already have any agreements with exchanges? Exchanges are skipping gambling projects. Please dont answer "we will update on this later", "confidential" or smth like that, as this only will mean - NO. Have any exchange give you their preliminary "Yes"?

We do currently have deals with some exchanges which are in the final stage of negotiation.

Great! thanks for the answer and waiting for the official announcement.

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[Coin_poker]

From today you can start filling your pockets with ETH! Look out for buy-in tournaments in our app with 2 or 5 (!) ETH prizepools, play and count down to 2018 by winning ETHEREUM!

Download our app here: /CPappdownload]http://[Suspicious link removed]/CPappdownload

Why eth tours was removed ?

We currently have these tournaments available to enter to win ETH: https://medium.com/@CoinPoker/count-down-to-2018-by-winning-ethereum-d4201ec6cce5

[RandyMagnum]

how are you plan to solve the bots problem, i have read the news that AI already beat the best HU players of NL?

[smartJEV]

how are you plan to solve the bots problem, i have read the news that AI already beat the best HU players of NL?

How do the market leaders (like pokerstars) solving this?

[personalvoid]

Man, their marketing is just top notch. Now they are offering a car as a tournament prize.

I like the branding, I like the promotions, I like the pacing of the updates, I like the software... I feel I have made a good decision to back you up guys... These guys are all in with the product.

https://coinpoker.com/wintesla

[Coin_poker]

how are you plan to solve the bots problem, i have read the news that AI already beat the best HU players of NL?

We will be releasing a series of blogs in which all of this will be explained. At the moment this is briefly covered in the Whitepaper on the site.

[Coin_poker]

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[bul168]

Playing tournaments on this site is fun but it could also turn into a waste of time because of the glitch that causes tournaments to get stuck. I've had 3 freerolls cancelled and i was in the money in all of them (one of them was final table). After the closing of some bitcoin poker sites coinpoker is one of the few options left for the players. I hope the issues with the bugs are resolved very soon.

[joomorrow]

I suggest anyone who wants to invest into this "crypto coin" to read this thread:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/ann-ico-coinpoker-poker-future-today-1694786/
(twoplustwo is by far the biggest poker forum in the world for those who don't know)

A lot of interesting discussion going on there. Very smart people who understand very well the poker industry scrutinize coinpoker and expose it as potentially a scam.

Play freeroll there if you want, but stay way from it if you want to "invest".

[traincarswreck]

I suggest anyone who wants to invest into this "crypto coin" to read this thread:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/ann-ico-coinpoker-poker-future-today-1694786/
(twoplustwo is by far the biggest poker forum in the world for those who don't know)

A lot of interesting discussion going on there. Very smart people who understand very well the poker industry scrutinize coinpoker and expose it as potentially a scam.

Play freeroll there if you want, but stay way from it if you want to "invest".

I am one of the players in that thread, and consider myself quite knowledgeable on the subject of these emerging projects.  It's not right to say "potentially a scam".  Players have always been careful in protecting their community, it is bad everyone is scams run rampant.  It's bad for the game and scares away potential players.

So we are scrutinizing the project, but its not that it seems like a scam, it just must pass the player's scrutiny and this will take time to discover.

But it is a good idea for anyone to check that thread out, it has a different tone because there are many professional and full time players kicking around 2p2.

Cheers


(the above post about renting a bot IS certainly a scam though and I reporting it

[ralukony]

just another poker project. did you see any casino/poker projects that have got a notable success?

[joomorrow]

I suggest anyone who wants to invest into this "crypto coin" to read this thread:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/ann-ico-coinpoker-poker-future-today-1694786/
(twoplustwo is by far the biggest poker forum in the world for those who don't know)

A lot of interesting discussion going on there. Very smart people who understand very well the poker industry scrutinize coinpoker and expose it as potentially a scam.

Play freeroll there if you want, but stay way from it if you want to "invest".

I am one of the players in that thread, and consider myself quite knowledgeable on the subject of these emerging projects.  It's not right to say "potentially a scam".  Players have always been careful in protecting their community, it is bad everyone is scams run rampant.  It's bad for the game and scares away potential players.

So we are scrutinizing the project, but its not that it seems like a scam, it just must pass the player's scrutiny and this will take time to discover.

But it is a good idea for anyone to check that thread out, it has a different tone because there are many professional and full time players kicking around 2p2.

Cheers


(the above post about renting a bot IS certainly a scam though and I reporting it

That's why I say "potentially" a scam, I didn't say it's a scam right away. But if anyone reads that thread, I think it's clear CoinPoker has way too many concerning problems going on at the moment, from their technologies, to their human resource choice, their way of handling private data/information, their stance against decentralization from their head of security, and so on. Also, the fact that they keep dodging questions after questions in that thread despite being asked repeatedly is also a red flag.

I think most people in the bitcointalk community only plays poker for fun. They don't know the in and out of the poker industry, what problems we have now, and how CoinPoker actually is going to solve those. They are a bit too optimistic. I just post the thread so that people can at least inform themselves properly before making investment decisions.

Personally, my impression about CoinPoker is:
- Very nice client implementation, I was surprised to see a project that started just a while ago has such a good poker client (much better than many long standing clients). Until I know it's just a re-skin of existing software.
- They are correct when they say with Ethereum network it's impossible to fully decentralize poker cause the transaction time takes way too long. But maybe they should investigate other platform then? Like Iota?
- But if it's that way, then the only thing CoinPoker has better than current poker softwares is the fact that their RNG is decentralized. But RNG was never a problem with major poker clients anyway. We can actually verify RNG better by analyzing statistical data from hand histories.
- And CoinPoker has a lot of major short comings compared to other poker softwares, for example the fact that we can't export hand histories to analyze with 3rd party softwares - a crucial way to prevent cheating, detecting collusion and other foul plays.

All in all, I would say that with the way it's heading, CoinPoker has even more security issues than PokerStars or other major poker clients.

[joomorrow]

"RNG was never a problem with major poker clients anyway" - that is exactly the current problem in online poker, because every company bends it to their needs!
rng is rigged, everyone knows!!!

Lol sorry, only rig tards complain about RNG (well if you play on shady Asian sites then I don't blame you, I concur that these sites do cheat).

But on mature and legitimate platforms like PokerStars, PartyPoker, 888, Winamax, ACR... RNG were NEVER an issue.

I play poker professionally for years. There are a lot of problems with online poker far beyond RNG, that CoinPoker does not solve.

[crunchynut]

However, forecasts show strong growth going forward. It’s expected that, online gaming will grow to USD $50 billion market and poker plays a significant role. This multi-billion-dollar market has been growing at 5-7% percent each year.

From the whitepaper. Reality has some issues with these statements. Nobody in the business believes that there will be a "strong growth going forward". The online gaming market is indeed growing but that is due to casino, daily fantasysport, sportsbet and attempts to get a hold in the e-sport market. The poker market is shrinking for years and will continue to do so. Operators are either closing down their poker room or they modify their game offering to turn the classic poker game into a slot machine. You want to make a profit with standard Texas Hold'em cash games and tournaments and random loyalty rewards that are not based on contributed rake... That's your "innovation" for a dying business? Well, you always can make it "crypto" and hope nobody realizes how outdated your business model is.

[crunchynut]

Yes, unfortunately due to regulations US residents can’t participate in ICO. But our legal team works hard to enable US players to play. Chances look great  We’ll keep You updated on progress.

From the 2+2 thread. Pure gold. Good luck with getting a license that will allow us-american players to play in a non-ringfenced poker room. Or for a start: good luck with getting any license to offer your services in the USA. Shouldn't your advisers tell you about this? You can also ask the Breakout Gaming guys or any other operator how the USA thing works.

[crunchynut]

1.2.2. Anonymity Smart contracts will guarantee the token holders’ anonymity and safety. Backed by solid legal opinions worldwide, the poker room will operate with maximally simplified registration process, avoiding redundant user personal data collection.

This collides directly with the requirements you have to meet for legally offering your services in the UK, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, .... And what about Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Germany? And China (read that with Trump's voice) and South Korea? You cannot have anonymous users. Mandatory kyc procedures, up to a point in some countries where your users have to provide bank details within a few days after registering, do not become optional by simply saying "blockchain". In reality they will have to run a few servers with a few databases and file storages and those will hold addresses, real names, telephone numbers, passport copies, deposit and withdrawal histories and what else is required by the issuer of their gambling license(s).

My conclusion: The concept makes no sense. What is proposed in the whitepaper is a boring and outdated boilerplate poker room that on top will be regarded as an illegal gambling operation in most parts of the world unless they do not plan to offer their services in most parts of the world. No recreational player will join that. And without a constant supply of recreational money no 2+2 shark will join. Another case of a product that wouldn't survive in the real world but by making it "crypto" it magically turns into something the world is waiting for.

[heilwood]

Currently i'm testing this poker room and what i see, that a lot of players joined, about 1000 players every evening playing tournaments. From white paper for me everything looks good. RNG clear for everyone. Poker client looks professional. For me this is number one poker crypto currency room. If you think that crypto poker rooms will not live in this world, then you can skip this one also.

[rehydrogenated]

Interesting app. I like the idea of the fair play protocol. With the current strength of poker bots my initial thoughts reading about the project was that any online poker room using block chain would be full of scammers and bots. Maybe I'll play a tournament or two and see for myself.

[crunchynut]

If you think that crypto poker rooms will not live in this world, then you can skip this one also.

That is not really the problem here. This project is not about building the next generation poker room. They know very well about the state of the online poker business and that opening a poker room now is burning money. It's about creating a coin with a halfway reasonable looking product behind it. Tony G and some mid- to c-level managers who used to work in the dying poker business simply want their own altcoin train - for some of them the last chance to get rich before getting too old. Nothing wrong with that. A lot of people from the poker business are doing stuff like that nowadays.

[SyGambler]

somehow I'm not able to download the software through the site , my download is getting interrupted
is there anyway to download the software from a source outside the site  , like mediafire or something similar