ASICMINER Speculation Thread

[KarmaShark]

will be interesting these next few days with the big rumor and financial report coming out. 

Indeed it will be.

Already we have massive buys on AM1, for what you can consider high volume for the asset. There are not many shares available under 1BTC, going terribly fast for anyone that finds this information out tonight / tomorrow and wanted in cheap.

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[dexX7]

Almost cute this little bump..

[muyuu]

Do you guys know where can I buy some shares that I can convert to direct shares afterwards?

[somestranger]

Results are needed for the price to go up. Talk and unconfirmed information from Chinese forums are cheap.

[TadpolesIsAWinner]

Do you guys know where can I buy some shares that I can convert to direct shares afterwards?

You should be able to buy shares on Havelock and Bitfunder and then convert them to direct shares.  You just have to email TAT.

[dexX7]

You should be able to buy shares on Havelock and Bitfunder and then convert them to direct shares.  You just have to email TAT.

This needs a correction. It's completely true for AM1 shares on Havelock, but to export full shares on BitFunder you need at least 250. AM100 shares are not exportable.

[muyuu]

You should be able to buy shares on Havelock and Bitfunder and then convert them to direct shares.  You just have to email TAT.

This needs a correction. It's completely true for AM1 shares on Havelock, but to export full shares on BitFunder you need at least 250. AM100 shares are not exportable.

Thanks.

By the way, the cap mentioned in Havelock is for the whole company of for the shares they have? Less than 10000BTC?

[Vycid]

Results are needed for the price to go up. Talk and unconfirmed information from Chinese forums are cheap.

You know how it is. Buy the rumor, sell the news.

[freedomno1]

Results are needed for the price to go up. Talk and unconfirmed information from Chinese forums are cheap.

You know how it is. Buy the rumor, sell the news.

An absolutely true statement
Still I would like to see it back at 1 for a bit
Anyways curious on your take if you want to speculate if the delivery is in two weeks etc.

[Vycid]

Anyways curious on your take if you want to speculate if the delivery is in two weeks etc.

I have no idea, sorry. I would err on the side of ignoring the rumors though - there's too much motive to fabricate them.

[stripykitteh]

Anyways curious on your take if you want to speculate if the delivery is in two weeks etc.

I have no idea, sorry. I would err on the side of ignoring the rumors though - there's too much motive to fabricate them.

While I don't hold AM at the moment I still have respect for friedcat as a businessman. I'd be disappointed if he's leaking information to 'insiders' so they can make a quick profit.

I think people also need to consider what AM is worth if they hold 10% of the market long-term (say until the next block reward-halving). I don't think it's much north of the current prices.

[Vycid]

Anyways curious on your take if you want to speculate if the delivery is in two weeks etc.

I have no idea, sorry. I would err on the side of ignoring the rumors though - there's too much motive to fabricate them.

I think people also need to consider what AM is worth if they hold 10% of the market long-term (say until the next block reward-halving). I don't think it's much north of the current prices.

I second this sentiment. That is exactly why my PT is so much lower than market (0.3). You have to make unsupported assumptions before the price even approaches reasonable.

The truly insane valuations have calmed down (it's surreal we were ever at 5), but we are still not at fair value. This is not a long-term buy.

[nubbins]

I've had a few requests to open up another Friedcat t-shirt group buy, so figured I'd post the link here as well, in case any of you missed out on the last two:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=317651.0

[freedomno1]

I've had a few requests to open up another Friedcat t-shirt group buy, so figured I'd post the link here as well, in case any of you missed out on the last two:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=317651.0

Nice I do love my shirt

Vycid thanks for the reply I was thinking along those lines but for immediate term scenarios it is fun speculating

[lophie]

I don't get it. I read everything that was posted before I sleep? now why did the price double? Someone felt bullish? Vyced did you do this -_-!

[KCBitcoin]

I don't get it. I read everything that was posted before I sleep? now why did the price double? Someone felt bullish? Vyced did you do this -_-!

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjI1OTIxMTc2.html

One of our group members in Chinese community had an interview with Friedcat today. Above is the brief introduction of what Friedcat has done and planned to be accomplished in the next months.
To be short:
1. 1000T would be released around Nov 7th. These chips may be sold or deployed, depending on the situation then.
2. 2nd Gen chips have already been developed long time ago. But they were delayed to deploy considering the unsatisfactory performance.
3. 3rd Gen chips were also under development during that period. It is already developed now but still under test. It is expected to become a mature product in Feb 2014, which means its key indicators would be much better than those of its competitors. It is estimated that the network hashing power would be 1000p then, while Friedcat would deliver several hundred of it.

[BitCsByBit]

I don't get it. I read everything that was posted before I sleep? now why did the price double? Someone felt bullish? Vyced did you do this -_-!

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjI1OTIxMTc2.html

One of our group members in Chinese community had an interview with Friedcat today. Above is the brief introduction of what Friedcat has done and planned to be accomplished in the next months.
To be short:
1. 1000T would be released around Nov 7th. These chips may be sold or deployed, depending on the situation then.
2. 2nd Gen chips have already been developed long time ago. But they were delayed to deploy considering the unsatisfactory performance.
3. 3rd Gen chips were also under development during that period. It is already developed now but still under test. It is expected to become a mature product in Feb 2014, which means its key indicators would be much better than those of its competitors. It is estimated that the network hashing power would be 1000p then, while Friedcat would deliver several hundred of it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg3406966#msg3406966

[lophie]

I don't get it. I read everything that was posted before I sleep? now why did the price double? Someone felt bullish? Vyced did you do this -_-!

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjI1OTIxMTc2.html

One of our group members in Chinese community had an interview with Friedcat today. Above is the brief introduction of what Friedcat has done and planned to be accomplished in the next months.
To be short:
1. 1000T would be released around Nov 7th. These chips may be sold or deployed, depending on the situation then.
2. 2nd Gen chips have already been developed long time ago. But they were delayed to deploy considering the unsatisfactory performance.
3. 3rd Gen chips were also under development during that period. It is already developed now but still under test. It is expected to become a mature product in Feb 2014, which means its key indicators would be much better than those of its competitors. It is estimated that the network hashing power would be 1000p then, while Friedcat would deliver several hundred of it.

So because FC talked to someone about things they we all know already the price double? Strange market, Bt it is okay I guess ore money for me.

[KS]

Anyways curious on your take if you want to speculate if the delivery is in two weeks etc.

I have no idea, sorry. I would err on the side of ignoring the rumors though - there's too much motive to fabricate them.

I think people also need to consider what AM is worth if they hold 10% of the market long-term (say until the next block reward-halving). I don't think it's much north of the current prices.

I second this sentiment. That is exactly why my PT is so much lower than market (0.3). You have to make unsupported assumptions before the price even approaches reasonable.

The truly insane valuations have calmed down (it's surreal we were ever at 5), but we are still not at fair value. This is not a long-term buy.

The price is not based on anything remotely "calculated". I wouldn't be surprised if we hit 7 or 8 within 12 months (.2 is also possible! and I reserve the right to contradict myself! )

[Lohoris]

Guys check this is quite funny

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=AM100

Someone is trying to stick the price or something..... 

true, quite odd.

Hmm All I see are two walls at 0.45
Unless you were referring to the 10,000 wall at 0.55 that got eaten through

There were one bid and one ask wall very close to each other.